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How World of Warcraft Operates In China

Danny writes "Gaming Steve has taken a detailed look at a little known aspect of the online gaming world -- how World of Warcraft and MMORPGs in general function in Communist China. Topics covered include the WOW China financial arrangement, censorship of WOW and other MMORPGs in general, different methods of payment for Chinese customers, and even how SARS affected online play." From the article: "Although private sector Internet service providers currently exist in China, almost all access to the Internet is maintained through stateowned telecommunication operators under the administrative control and regulatory supervision of China's Ministry of Information Industry. In addition, the national networks in China connect to the Internet through government controlled international gateways. These government controlled international gateways are the only channel through which a domestic Chinese user can connect to the international Internet network."

56 comments

  1. Satellite Internet? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't you use StarBand or some other high speed satellite internet provider in China? Do they have a dome over China I'm not aware of or what?

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    1. Re:Satellite Internet? by vertinox · · Score: 1

      Can't you use StarBand or some other high speed satellite internet provider in China?

      Most Satellite's require for internet connections are geo-stationary. Unless some western company has shot up a few in orbit in line of sight of China then it is a moot point. I guess you could use satellite phone but who wants to use dial up?

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    2. Re:Satellite Internet? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

      No. Every two-way high speed internet provided by satellite is done with LEO constelations. As such, most of them have 80% earth coverage (getting internet in the Arctic must be a bitch).

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    3. Re:Satellite Internet? by ockegheim · · Score: 1

      Even so, satellite internet would mean very high ping times for "state approved" internet activities such as WoW.

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    4. Re:Satellite Internet? by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Informative

      uh huh. 150km * 2 = 300km / speed of light = 1.000692 ms. We're not talking about geostationary satellites anymore (typically around 238.738 ms ping times, which is still faster than most people on dialup).

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    5. Re:Satellite Internet? by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      uh huh. So if ping time = distance / speed of light, why is my ping time to my first hop via a cable company 7ms? There's 2100km of cable?

    6. Re:Satellite Internet? by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Uhh, because there's a switching penalty? The reason why satellite has traditionally had such low ping times is because they've been in geostationary orbit, and the propogation delay literally is that far away.

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    7. Re:Satellite Internet? by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      Satellite has traditionally had "such low ping times"? I wasn't aware. Historically they have had high ping times.

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  2. In China.. by Hott+of+the+World · · Score: 1

    Only old people play MMORPGs..

    Seriously though, isnt there some sort of limit on how much kids can play?

    I scanned the article, didn't see much on it.

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    1. Re:In China.. by the_unknown_soldier · · Score: 2, Informative

      That is a korea joke... but anyway.

      If you had read the article, It states that most kids get their internet through cafe's, and most cafe's have limited open hours and minimum ages for entry. But these limits are decided by provincial governments so it is different in every area.

  3. Great Dome of China? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do they have a dome over China I'm not aware of or what?

    Well, you can never be too ready for Space Mongols.

  4. The summary is incorrect by the_unknown_soldier · · Score: 3, Informative

    The internet can be accessed without going through China's censors. First off, you can use a satellite phone. Second off you can use an encrypted phone line, and lastly you can use ssh and a European provider to ensure your communications are not monitored by the government.

    1. Re:The summary is incorrect by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      If you can ssh through their firewall then it is clearly not intended for censorship as the western media would have us believe.

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    2. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 'west' lying about a supposedly 'communist' state... I am shocked! Shocked I tell you!

    3. Re:The summary is incorrect by Banner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know that most Chinese are dirt poor and can't afford those things right? Or that it's the death penalty to use it?
      I don't think you understand just how totalitarian a communist government like China is.

    4. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pot calling the kettle black much!? You are the walking contradiction here, retard. Pity that reality disagrees with you 101% of the time.

    5. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting post. Thank you for completely debunking every and all of my statements as you so eloquently did, because everyone knows that the cult of Liberalism cures all. Just ask Al Franken, who is so undoubtedly full of the truth that he has to write a book called "Truth," as if anyone who would hear his name would just scream Truth.

      All of you EUrinals think alike. Go back across the pond, dirtbag.

    6. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow you are one big cry baby son-of-a-bitch aren't you? You begin by labeling people with slurs and spouting of your "facts" (the quotes there indicate that your facts are not actually factual) but when people trump you are your own game you get even more upset! I wish I had a rage problem like you so I could pass for an American whenever I wanted people to think I was uncivilized.

    7. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm not quite sure who you are replying to since your diatribe did not make one iota of sense. Perhaps you want to take Michael Moore's big gigantic cock out of your ass and shut the hell up. Put down your Washington comPost, turn off Chris Matthews from Screwball on MSLSD, and get a grip on reality. This is Bush country.

      http://alfter.us/graphics/BushCountry04Map.jpg

    8. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, the other AC is right. You are one retarded SOB. Nice to know that extreme stupidity is the reason that you dumb ass Americans elected your President. Oh and by the way, the world is a lot larger than your shitty country so hope you like living on a "damn you Americans are stupid pieces of shit" planet.

    9. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, fortunately, you Eurinals don't run America. So, go to hell and worry about your France imploding into civil war. America could take every one of you piece of shit, terrorist harboring, dictatorial, third world piece of shit. Thank you.

    10. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would those be the third world dictators you 'lovers of freedom and democracy' put in power? Of course they are. I know your knowledge of geography is non-existent at best but there is more to the world than France and your shithole country. You do not impress anyone by being able to name less than a dozen nations on earth and the names of all of those are taking right out of the Faux New propaganda talking points.

    11. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't we all just get along?

      (Yes, I know... "You must be new here")

    12. Re:The summary is incorrect by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      you get disconnected. encrypted sessions are regularly "dropped"

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    13. Re:The summary is incorrect by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      shh, this is a left leaning website, you cant say communism is bad. communism is FREEDOM!

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    14. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot. Please don't post again. China has not been 'Communist' since Deng Xiaoping took over almost 30 years ago. Of course, you are probably American (you have no concept of grammar), so I'll just assume that your authoritarian state has brainwashed you into believing lies that suit its purposes.

    15. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Nice try, asshat. Here's a cartogram that shows the same information but with the population of those counties added as a factor:

      2004 Presidential Election Cartogram by County Population.

      You must be proud that both people in Idaho voted for your guy. A guy with the lowest approval ratings for any President in 33 years.

      More accurate information here.

    16. Re:The summary is incorrect by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      actually, i am not. I come from a country bordering china. Yes, it is very communist. The tibetans i met can attest to that fact.

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    17. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, so you are just not really bright in general. There is a difference between Authoritarianism and Communism. China has been Authoritarian since 1949 but it stopped being Communistic in the Marxist sense when Deng Xiaoping took over.

    18. Re:The summary is incorrect by minus_273 · · Score: 2

      I hope someday you have to live under communism.

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    19. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm from the former Soviet Union. China is as Communist as Russia is now. Slapping a label on something does not make the label true.

    20. Re:The summary is incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you're an idiot. No doubt a liar too. China is communist, period.

  5. Ruined? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hell I say that they have vastly improved the game because of it.

    The last thing we need is some overly cute bears running around in WOW.

  6. Re:WoW china ruined the new Alliance race.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So China never saw release of The Frozen Throne? Sounds a bit fishy to me.

  7. Re:I know what some of you are thinking... by Aoverify · · Score: 1

    They don't control the internet. They only control the ACCESS of the internet by their citizens.

  8. Au Contrare, Mon Ami! by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    As in every country there are groups of people who can only handle certain truths. The firewall censors the truth for those people in that country who can't handle it. Those who can handle it inevitably build tools to get around it. This same logic applies to the DMCA and America's attempts to keep certain things classified. Keeping honest people honest really means keeping certain truths from people who can't handle them.

  9. They control part of it. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Or are you defining "internet" as all interconnected networks outside China? On the other hand, are you saying there are only client computers in China and no servers?

  10. Re:WoW china ruined the new Alliance race.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard the players with the collector's edition panda cub pet have to pay a tax to the Chinese government.

  11. Communist China? by Ummu · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is there really any need to remind us all that china is supposingly "communist"? We all know it's not.

  12. So they limit access by csscmaster3 · · Score: 1

    Currently in China the government limits the access, and forces third party companies to host servers for chinese players. The only differnece is that you cannot access the chinese servers if you are not in china. My friend currently in the US, has said that he needed to purchase a new WoW and create a new account to play. IS this really the way that *BLizzard* should get more players? HAving the governemnt restrict the access of the servers so that only people in that country have access to them. Blizzard should do something in this matter, so that players can connect to their own countries servers even if they are not currently staying there. *just an example of a company

    1. Re:So they limit access by Joel+from+Sydney · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not just the Chinese servers that are region limited. I'm pretty sure you need a local CD key to play on the European or Korean servers as well. However, the list of servers you see is literally just a text file sitting on your hard drive. So realistically you can connect to any WoW server you want (including the illegal emulated ones), but I'd be surprised if a European WoW server accepted your US login credentials (or vice-versa). YMMV.

      I think the segregation of servers is more for cultural and language reasons than anything technical. Managing a 40-man MC raid (or even just partying with 5 people for the Deadmines) would be pretty difficult if only half the players spoke English!

    2. Re:So they limit access by kiddygrinder · · Score: 1

      AFAIK you just need to change the server url in a text file to allow you to play on other country's servers.

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    3. Re:So they limit access by tiggles · · Score: 1

      One of the people I work with plays WoW on the same server he used in Canada, just with awful ping times.

      One reason you can't play the Chinese one in the west is probably how REALLY cheap it is. You pay by the hour, and I think it's some number of pennies. I remember .3 RMB/hour (1RMB= .12USD) but I could be wrong... of course you have to play in Chinese, but there are enough bilingual people in North America to ensue they'd lose customers.

  13. 238ms? Let's not kid ourselves. by jfisherwa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a fairly accurate report on the current state of satellite Internet service.

  14. Re:WoW china ruined the new Alliance race.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Foolish commie loving mods...It was no troll...

    source

  15. One more way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can connect via anoNet http://anonetnfo.brinkster.net/

    For everyone else check it out -- the internet the way it should be.

  16. SARS did not affect WOW by 7-Vodka · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SARS was gone way before world of warcraft even existed. Missleading headline.

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  17. Shooting yourself in the foot by aminorex · · Score: 1

    I'd love to move all of my software development to China. One small American company alone could double or triple the collective income of a smallish Chinese city. But the network connectivity to the U.S. and Europe is too poor yet.

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  18. Re:I know what some of you are thinking... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You would be surprized should you ever venture outside of your Windows world how much governments here and there, likely everywhere, have control over the internet, and not merely access.

  19. wow... not what I saw by willscott · · Score: 1

    I spent last summer in shanghai, and have a couple observations. WOW seemed to be one of the most common games you'd see people playing in the internet cafes, and the coca-cola ads for it were everywhere. Not only were all of the bottles printed with WOW characters on them, but the print advertising was astonishing. payment wise, there were a couple interesting things. I was tallking to a friend about the game, and when he wanted to start it up, he called a friend to get the account information, it seemed that it was common for a group of friends to share one account. At the same time, people don't expect to pay for software. you can be sure that most of the stuff you buy is illegal copies, even if it comes from an upscale bookstore, and most of the people i met would have emule running constantly on their computers. WOW seems to be making a ton of money because it's subscription system makes it hard to crack, and it seems to have really caught the mainstream attention in china.