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New Technology Could Kill WiMax?

GolygyddMax writes "Techworld reports that a Florida-based start-up, xG, has developed a technology that's a 1000 times more efficient than WiMax and which could, in theory, lead to wireless LANs being powered by watch batteries. It is still in early development, but this technology could allow anyone to set up as an ISP. This could kill WiMax before it even gets off the ground." From the article: "At the demonstration with other reporters, we were able to verify that the signals were being sent wirelessly, and checked the distance by GPS, but had to take the 50mW base station - and its omnidirectional antenna - on trust, since it was at the top of an 850ft mast. The demonstration will be repeated for the US press next week. The system carried 7.4 Mbit/s per MHz per Watt, said Professor Schwartz. By comparison, GSM would have around 0.0058, and CDMA/EV-DO about 0.0085 Mbit/s per MHz per Watt. "

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  1. 1000 times for efficient than WiMax by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Must . . . resist . . . grammar . . . posting . . .

  2. FCC and cell phone companies will kill it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since a system like this working with IPv6 could potentially eliminate the need for telecom/cell service providers (since the power reqs are low, it won't be a problem for people to relay each others communications and act as peer to peer links ..using any of the already existing relay reward based schemes).. I could see how cell phone companies would want this technology neutralized.

  3. How can they DO that? by Bastian · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am not a radio engineer, but here's what I read from "7.4Mbit/s per MHz per Watt." "At one watt, we can cram 7.4 bits into one cycle of a sine wave. At two watts, we can fit 14.8 bits into one cycle of a sine wave, and so on."

    How does that work?

    1. Re:How can they DO that? by jonesboy_damnit · · Score: 5, Interesting
      From TFA:

      "xMax is unconventional," said Stuart Schwartz, professor of electrical engineering at Princeton Universithy, who has scrutinised xG's demonstration set-up, speaking at the xMax demonstration. "It is clever and innovative, but it is not magic. It uses single cycle modulation, and needs much less power than other technologies."
      Single-cycle modulation is the invention of xG's chief technology officer Joe Bobier, with backing from Mooers Branton, a merchant bank, whose founder Rick Mooers also serves as xG's chief executive. The modulation scheme alters the frequency of individual cycles of the carrier wave, which has the effect of introducing very low power side-bands to the signal.


      My take is that they're using the difference in frequency between the carrier frequency and the generated sideband frequency to represent a value (ie. +10kHz = 0001; +15kHz = 0010; etc.). This seems awfully similar to the SSB modulation commonly used in shortwave radiocommunications to me.

      Since they're operating in the license-free 900mHz ISM band, it also *must* implement some sort of frequency-hopping (or direct sequence, I suppose) spread spectrum stuff in order to be legal. Could be kind of an interesting technology. I'd like to play with a couple of the radios and a good spectrum analyzer to see what it looks like.

      In the interests of full disclosure, IANARE (but I played one at a job once for awhile).

      -Matt
    2. Re:How can they DO that? by jonesboy_damnit · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, increasing the transmit power *can* buy you greater data rates, as long as your data rate is limited by signal-to-noise ratio.

      For example, let us build (in our minds) a transmitter/receiver pair which can encode/decode one symbol every second. OK? Every second we send one symbol (effectively a magic combination of waves which means something to a demodulator) from the transmitter, and every second we decode one symbol at the receiver.

      If we have lousy SNR, we might only be able to differentiate between the most distinct two states of the transmitter (one bit per symbol: either 1 or 0), since all the noise impinging on our signal looks an awful lot like the more subtle states (or even worse, completely obstructs all states, making decoding impossible). This gives us a data rate of 1bps.

      If we can increase the signal level at the receiver, thus increasing SNR (assuming we're not distorting the living hell out of our transmission, natch) but increasing our transmitter's output, we might be able to encode *two* bits per symbol (00, 01, 10 or 11) by adding two more symbols to the constellation. By doing this, we haven't increased our symbol rate (still only one symbol every second), but we *have* doubled our throughput.

      Make sense?

      -Matt

  4. Re:ho! by psyon1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, I hate it when my porn gets blocked by the steel walls.

  5. In other news... by Mille+Mots · · Score: 4, Funny
    Infinium Systems announced the addition of wireless gaming to the panoply of features included in their phantom Phantom Gaming Console.

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  6. The real issue: interference by rsborg · · Score: 4, Informative
    From TFA:
    not unlike a cordless phone base station, operating in the unlicensed - and crowded - 900MHz band, to send a 3.7Mbit/s data signal to a radius of 18 miles across the suburbs of Miami
    and this:
    Before any of this happens, more demonstrations are needed, to show the system is robust against interference and multipath, and can operate in an area more crowded than 18 miles of swamp. It will also need to be approved by the FCC and other regulators round the world.
    Those are BIG if's. Most likely, if it can withstand a moderate amount of interference, this will mainly be used to support other technologies.

    Yeah, an immersive internet would be awesome... but this thing still has some issues to be resolved.

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  7. More details here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lots more details in this article, and photo's here. Looks very interesting.

  8. It is still in early development by pubjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is still in early development...

    I have a technology that's ten times better than this one, although it is in very early stages of development...

    No technology company should make extravagant claims about the capabilities of their product until they have a genuine, working demo.

    1. Re:It is still in early development by pscottdv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "No technology company should make extravagant claims about the capabilities of their product until they have a genuine, working demo."

      You don't know much about raising venture capital, do you?

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  9. Two things by aztektum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are two primary stumbling blocks before it will take over WiMax:

    1) It actually does what the article says

    2) It isn't bound up the ass by patents and doesn't require hefty fees to implement.

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  10. relay network by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There had been some discussion here in the past about using cell phones as network relays as well as end-points to increase range and reach, but one of the conclusions was that having cell phones constantly retransmitting data would run down the batteries too quickly. This technology might change the equation, making it possible to have an ad-hoc networking system shuttling data between portable devices rather than needing a lot of infrastructure.

  11. Nope, WiMax will come first by EriktheGreen · · Score: 5, Informative
    The poster of this article assumes that the technically superior solution will rise to the top. In fact, the administratively superior solution will... this means that if companies spend millions of dollars preparing a standard and products for market, they won't switch to something else automatically even if it's obviously better.

    The reality of the situation is that if the new solution is exactly what it's sold to be (unlikely) then it probably will eventually break into the market, but even if it's made into a useable product immediately its use will be overshadowed by the well advertised and enthusiastically sold solution that the vendors are pushing instead. Vendors really don't care what's superior unless they're picking technologies from a menu and they have no interest in any of them (positive or negative). Vendors care about money, and if they've already spent some on one technology, they won't switch unless it's obvious that another technology will immediately dominate the market (VERY, VERY rarely does this happen).

    Take off the rose colored glasses, people. Technically superior solutions MAY eventually win out over poorer ones if all else is equal, but all else NEVER is equal.

    Plus, it's unlikely that this "breakthrough" is anything but some ambitious people trying to sell something inferior as if it's the solution to All Our Problems (tm).

    Erik

  12. The real truth is by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Informative

    That xMax technology is patented etc. It uses a low power signal to orchestrate the use of very low power signals in what is 'normally' the noise bands adjacent to the desired signal. That is to say, it uses multiple frequencies, but at such low power it only looks like noise. It is both clever and capable. The real trouble is that it

    1 - is owned by a single vendor,
    2 - has yet to be approved by the FCC,
    3 - still needs to pass more testing stages before anyone will dare use it.

    Even though it is a sound technology, it does something that other tech has not been allowed to do: use adjacent spectrum that is not licensed to the operator. There are significant hurdles to this technology being used.

  13. Reading assignment for today by Rorschach1 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Your assignment for today is to read up on the Shannon-Hartley theorem. Then ponder the sort of signal-to-noise ratio required to do what they're saying. I'm just not seeing it happen. And the explanation of changing the frequency of individual cycles - that doesn't make any sense to me. That's just FM, not a novel modulation technique.

    Also, consider the black-box demo - so typical of snake oil these days. If it was an actual, novel system, you'd probably have a custom board with a pile of FPGAs and such in there. No amount of staring at it would tell you anything significant about how it works. On the other hand, if it's a commercial WiFi board with 'Netgear' plastered all over it, it's going to be pretty obvious. So what are they hiding?

  14. BS Detector To Full Power! by FrankDrebin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    By comparison, GSM would have around 0.0058, and CDMA/EV-DO about 0.0085 Mbit/s per MHz per Watt.

    In a world where CDMA EV-DO with Turbo Coding comes within 1-2dB of the Shannon Limit, xG claims their system is 1000x (60dB) better. Perhaps they are modulating the tachyon-neutrino field? Ensign, Crusher... evasive maneuvers!

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  15. IAARE by elgatozorbas · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am a radio engineer...
    well, not professionally but I know what it is about.

    Digital transmission works as follows: you select a certain waveform out of a set and transmit it. At the receiver you try to figure out which one it was. Unfortunately the reception is distorted because of noise you pick up, such that the distinction is not perfect (e.g. in case you can reliably tell 8 possible waveforms apart three bits will be conveyed each time you do this). Using more power will lead to a better distinction and therefore higher bit rate. Using a larger (RF) band width allows you to send more waveforms per second hence also increasing the number of bits transferred (this is simplified somewhat).

    Shannon left us a nice formula to calculate the capacity aka maximum possible throughput EVER, but first you need to calculate the signal and noise power you receive.

    1) If we assume the waves travel in free space, the received signal power will be dependent on
    - transmit power
    - transmit antenna gain (dish is more focused than dipole etc.)
    - free space loss (FSL, i.e. field strength getting weaker far from the source because the energy is spread out in all directions)
    - receive antenna gain
    This is an optimistic assumption because their setup takes place in suburban territory!

    We can assume both the antenna gains are 0dB, being small and probably not perfectly matched.
    The FSL is equal to: R^2*4pi^2/lambda^2 (R=distance, lambda=wavelength)
    At 900 MHz lambda=0.33m, R=18 miles=29e3 m.
    FSL= 3e11(in 'power') or 115dB.
    The transmit power was 50mW, i.e.17dBm, the total received power will be 17-115=-98 dBm. The thermic background noise is equal to -173dBm/Hz (best case, due to ambient temparature - this is a bit optimistic too because other wireless devices are transmitting there too).

    2) The channel capacity is given by Shannon as C=B*log2(1+S/N), where C=capacity (bits/sec), B=bandwidth (physical, in Hz), S=signal power (-98dBm), N=noise power (-173dBm/Hz*B).
    You can now play with the bandwidth to influence the capacity. To a certain extent an increased bandwidth will increase the capacity but after a while you are just catching more noise while the signal will be spread out in frequency, so this saturates.
    For these numbers the (theoretical) maximum capacity would be about 4.5e7 bits/sec or 45MB/sec. But even to achieve the 3.7Mb mentioned you already need a bandwidth of 700kHz (rough estimate, I made a plot in matlab).
    At that point you transmit 3.7Mb/(50mW)/(0.7Mhz)=100Mb/s/W/MHz, so their figure of 7.4 MB/2/W/MHz is not impossible. However it will be difficult to achieve. We have made some assumptions (especially about the loss in the urban envorinment), and their bit rate only has a 'margin' of a factor 12 (45 to 3.7). There you have it.

  16. Re:ho! by EnderWigginsXenocide · · Score: 4, Funny

    Same here. My RV has been "up-armored" for my upcoming vacation in Iraq. The unfortunate side effect has been the blockage of wi-fi signals when war-driving. Ironicly getting a vehicle ready to war-drive in a war-zone has reduced my ability to war-drive.

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