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Google Paying for Firefox Installs

slashkitty writes "Google updated their AdSense service to pay publishers for referrals. What's interesting is that now they pay publishers $1 US for each FireFox download with the Google Toolbar installed. Is this the bump that Firefox needs to boost downloads? Will Google be able to pay the millions for all the downloads?"

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  1. Payment... by Karma_fucker_sucker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    When a user you've referred to AdSense first earns US $100, we'll credit your AdSense account with US $100. When a user you've referred to Firefox plus Google Toolbar runs Firefox for the first time, you'll receive up to $1 in your account, depending on the user's location.And: Will Google be able to pay the millions for all the downloads?

    Easily. If Google can pay the $100, the $1 (1%) will be no probelm especially since there's a disclaimer - the depending on the user's location part.

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  2. Wow. by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Google REALLY wants to fscking kill Microsoft! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!

    This is much better than a fight between gladiators. Popcorn, anyone? B-)

  3. Re:Bloody optimists... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think it invites a massive fraud potential which not only drains money, but bandwidth.

  4. Actually 7.1 *billion* by shylock0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, so I lied -- I found the Fiscal Year 2004 balance sheets, instead of Google's most recent quarterly report. which you can find here. Google does have 7.1 billion in cash and marketable securities. 10 or 20 or even 30 million is rounding Error. Unless every man, woman, and child on the planet decides to download Firefox, Google is fine here.

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  5. Millions? by earnest+murderer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Will Google be able to pay the millions for all the downloads?"

    Checks NYSE.... Do you suppose? Since we're talking about a lot less than "millions", more like a million or so on a good year here on out. That's for all installs, not the fraction of installs with google toolbar.

    Since the data/referals they'll get will grow/improve significantly. I would imagine that this is a screaming deal for all parties.

    Personally, I doubt I'll use it. The last thing I need is another toolbar I don't use (actually I would use the spell check, but that's a lot of real estate to give up to somthing that should be on the tools menu). The search bar is already more than I want. By more I mean I generally turn it of an use keywords to forward search terms to google from the address bar.

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  6. Re:Wow, just like real spyware people by Trigun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Don't you think that there is a bigger plan in the works, rather than just a little bit of money here? Like a lot of money? Google is planning the Os in the web, not the OS of the web. Firefox's very open API will only help them, and hurt microsoft. Why pay for windows, when any os that will run firefox will work? Even BeOS could be viable. Even a stripped down PC with no HDD and a knoppix cd, or a PXE machine will work.

    Google doesn't want to control the OS, they want to marganilize it, even eliminate it. It's going to get interesting from here on in.

  7. 6 billion and counting, I think by Flying+pig · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I saw a reference the other day that suggested that Google now has more ad revenue than any print company. I'm sorry I didn't bookmark it, but it may well be true. Newsprint is paid for mainly by commercial ads and classified ads. Google is doing well on the commercial side. If as rumored they get in on the classified ads as well they could take a whole chunk off of eBay (lots of eBay users really do not want auctions and "buy it now" dilutes the brand) as well as taking another chunk out of print media. Tie classified ads to Google maps and you could apply serious traction to the job ad market, house sales...

    Anybody who thinks "only search as a product" neither understands Google nor the power of search.

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  8. gmail, openoffice , firefox? by sonamchauhan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hmm... a scenario:

    Google starts providing OpenOffice as a client-side components within Firefox, perhaps downloaded as XPCOM components, perhaps using the GoogleToolbar as the entry point. The browser now provides straightforward access to both thin and thick client functionality.

    The gmail, google maps, etc interfaces are melded in too, providing a uniform interface to a free persistent 'office environment' that people can access through any browser, anywhere, with temporary working files stored locally for performance and content network-backed to Google's servers...

    This could explain Microsoft's recent launch of Windows Live as - perhaps - a preemptive defensive maneuvour.

  9. Re:Able to pay? by jtjdt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hellooo, the program is only for people ALREADY signed up for AdSense. That means, those people have already PAID Google. Google loses nothing at all. Plus look at the stats

    390.43 +4.48 (1.16%) 4 Nov at 4:00PM ET
    Open: 389.98
    High: 391.79
    Low: 385.45

    Volume: 8,824,846
    Avg Vol: 9,472,000
    Mkt Cap: $$$$110.29Billion $$$$

  10. Re:Google vs. Microsoft by IntlHarvester · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sorry to bitchslap you with facts, but Google just introduced a major desktop product based entirely on IE and COM/ActiveX infrastructure. Just the kind of Internet product that Microsoft has been talking about since Pearl Harbor Day, 1995.

    If Google actually thought that way, they would build their stuff on Mozilla technology. But facts speak louder than words.

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  11. Re:Spyware by mla_anderson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Google toolbar gives me enough advantages that I install it. The option to open searches in a new tab/window is very nice as is one click link to search on the page for search items. In addition spell check can be very handy (if I remember to use it). I don't use the other options very much, but until they start acting more evil I'll keep it around.

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  12. Re:Google vs. Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Or more likely Google wants to use cool stuff like xforms and CSS3 and Microsoft with IE is holding them back...

  13. A better idea perhaps ... by Slashdoc+Beta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about just having a "download Firefox" link on Google.com? They get, what, a billion visitors each day? All the people who really want to spread firefox are already spreading Firefox.

  14. Re:Bloody optimists... by slashkitty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok ok, so that was a bad question... But, is it worth it for the $1 install? Most spyware companies only pay $0.25, and they get massive pop up ads and unlimited upgrades!

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  15. Ponzi-scheme by grazzy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I cant believe how lame this idea is by Google. There will be a complete feast of recruiting over at forums such as DigitalPoint etc. I can easily see how people will try to divide their income into as many accounts they can possible create to get that 100 bucks for a signup.

    So lame. So 1996. Go google, king of pyramid-schemes.

  16. Re:Google vs. Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If Microsoft did break their sites on purpose Google would sue them just like Opera did (msn.com was broken on purpose for Opera users) and win millions from it. I think it's much more likely that Google is doing this so that they can control where the web goes in the future.

    Follow me here for a second. Google pretty much already controls Firefox (they pay their key developers and are the main people funding it) so it is in their best interest to get Firefox to be the defactor browser so that they can add new capabilities to it when they please. Without adding even more powerfull features to a web browser Google will not be able to create complex enough web based applications that can take over most desktop applications. This is very smart long term thinking on their part.

  17. Money by x_terminat_or_3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They certainly have enough money to pay the "milions" of FireFox downloads. And rest assured that they will MAKE money out of it as well.

    The prime reason for M$ being number one is because M$ bundeled the browser with its operating system. I certainly hope that FireFox or why not KHTML-based browser beats m$ explorer. IMHO the only way to make the web more secure. Heck why not abandon m$ altogheter and switch to Linux or Mac. Stories of viruses, worms, and zombie's will all soon be a thing of the past.

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  18. Re:Spyware by an_mo · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The option to open searches in a new tab/window is very nice as is one click link to search on the page for search items

    You can do that with the preinstalled google box you know.

  19. Re:Interesting Thought by jofi · · Score: 1, Interesting
    I was just wondering if there would be a similar positive response

    Absolutely not!

    Microsoft = Bad
    Other companies trying to be like Microsoft = Good

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  20. Re:Bloody optimists... by Jon_E · · Score: 3, Interesting

    interesting .. how quickly can you transfer (8.2MB * 3,500,000,000) = 26.72PB?

    Now with the average cable internet download speed approaching 2200kbps (275KB/s), you're looking at 3388.77 years for a single client running at last years average. OTOH, to acheive this in a single day should ideally just require 1236903 cable modem subscribers and a properly distributed and co-ordinated effort. Of course it would probably be easier to simply hack the download counters ..