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Eight Year Old Physics Student Admitted to College

paris writes to tell us that The Korea Herald is running a story about Song Yoo-guen, the youngest university student that Korea has ever seen. At eight years old Song is already talking about building flying cars and defying Newton's law of gravity while others his age are attending the first grade. He completed his elementary, junior-high, and high school curricula in just nine months, something that usually takes 12 years, and has been admitted as a freshman to the physics department of Inha University.

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  1. OK I give up by guardiangod · · Score: 5, Funny

    He surprised professors by explaining the Schroedinger equation, which is of central importance to the theory of quantum mechanics.

    Oh my god, to think that a 7 years old best me when it comes to learning the good old Schrodinger equation...

    Someone please bury me.

    1. Re:OK I give up by tct25 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hang on, explaining or regurgitating what his parents told him? All this smacks of publicity stunt... both for the anxious parents (it'll help junior in our hyper-competitive society) and a middling Korean university (at best).

    2. Re:OK I give up by servognome · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a good point, the difference between intelligence and wisdom. It's relatively easy to learn something, even Schrodinger's equation. It's far more difficult to try and explain the implications, or to formulate your own perspective. Breakthroughs in knowledge come from experience and creating your own version of the universe, not what is taught.

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    3. Re:OK I give up by SnowZero · · Score: 5, Interesting

      and a middling Korean university

      Prodigies usually attend universities near home, so that they can still live with their family. The quality of the school is secondary, as they can always move on later if they outgrow it. My university won't even let students live on campus below a certain age, and they probably aren't socially ready for it anyway. One of my best friends from undergrad started taking classes at 12 and entered as a freshman at 14. She wasn't allowed to live on campus until sophomore year.

      In a way, I'm glad to not be in that category, as its quite difficult for such students. Their intelligence at school is well advanced of their social development, and nobody treats them normally anyway. Our society is set up so that things only line up for regular people.

    4. Re:OK I give up by colmore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know, I had a chance to start College at age 14, not quite 8, but still. I'm really glad I didn't take it.

      Sure, highschool sucked. But highschool sucked for a whole lotta people. I read a lot on my own time, and I don't think humanity was deprived of any potential fruits of my intellect while I was spending my efforts avoiding football games and vainly attempting to figure out how to talk to girls.

      When I started college at the normal age, I had a blast and did well academically.

      I remember reading an article about what prodigies were up to 20 years later (looking at what happened to a bunch of kids who'd gone into college before puberty, which apparently there was a rash of in the 70s) and none of them were doing anything *that* earth-shaking. All smart men and women, sure, but no nobel prizes.

      Think of it this way: You're a professor starting a new research project. Which early PhD student do you want to be your research assistant, the 24 year old with an apartment and a settled life, or some kid who'se just started the roughest years of puberty? They both have the same amount of education, and the kid is way more impressive *for his age* but what the hell do you care about someone being impressive for their age? You want work to get done. I really suspect this kind of thing happens more to stoke parental egos than anything else. It just doesn't make that much sense to get so far off of the clock that your society expects of you.

      There are a whole lot of square pegs out there, and the standard education system is nothing but round holes. Some parents give their kids pills or push them onto the chearleading team in order to make them round pegs. Some parents look around frantically for square holes for their precious square pegs. I personally am a big believer in the value of spending a few years getting whacked in the head by a hammer as society tries to cram you down the damn round hole. The adult world isn't that much different, and you learn to deal with it without developing a massive ego or the belief that nothing is right if it doesn't feel like a special magical little cradle created just for unique little you.

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  2. Bit early by ivan+kk · · Score: 5, Funny

    8 is too young, the liver hasn't fully developed yet.

  3. with all due respect by dermusikman · · Score: 5, Funny

    At eight years old Song is already talking about building flying cars and defying Newton's law of gravity while others his age are attending the first grade.

    i was dreaming up flying cars and defying gravity in first grade. and riding dinosaurs... oh ya.

  4. Re:ah well by MoonFog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is this worse than drafting or buying a very young sportsman? Whether you play soccer in the English Premier League at the age of 16 or you get a PhD at the age of 16 you will not be able to grow up in the same way as others, but with that kind of talent comes certain issues. If they hold him back and force him to "be his age", it will most likely severly hurt his intellectual growth.

  5. Hah! by msormune · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I talked about building flying cars at the age of 6. In fact, I built one. It amazing what legos and some good old childhood imagination can do.

  6. Something Missing? by mosb1000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The interview was conducted mainly with the senior Song since Yoo-geun is lacking in his ability to communicate with adults."

    Something tells me that he might no be ready for college just yet. . .

    1. Re:Something Missing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      In South Korea, one language dialect is used to speak to peers and another to speak to those who are older.

      And it is much more difficult than simply injecting a 'sir' into the sentence.

      I visited South Korea for about a decade when I was a kid and can still speak fluently to peers--but I don't dare speak Korean to elder Koreans because I'd end up royally pissing them off by not using the proper dialect.

      Isn't it amazing how the phrase "lacking in his ability to communicate with adults" takes on a whole new meaning when given the context?

      This reminds me of a similar situation we have with lack of context regarding the words and phrases used in the Bible or other religious texts. Yet people try to infect others with their misinterpretations and start wars when others disagree with them.

  7. Re:Like many other kids... by HappyEngineer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Being socially well adjusted is overrated.

  8. Re:Annoying by arvindn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm from India, and we have kids doing this a lot back there, especially in math. I once talked to a math professor who's met some of these kids and who actually knows what he's talking about, and he says most of the time they are not even remotely qualified to be enter university, even though they might be somewhat precocious. Usually the parents make the kid do it because they are publicity whores, and the university plays along for the same reason.

  9. I see.. by deep44 · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's just getting all this school mumbo-jumbo out of the way so he can concentrate full-time on playing Starcraft once he turns 14.

  10. Poor kid by Jessta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The poor kid is not going to have much contact with other kids his age. I'm guessing he's going to grow up a bit anti-social and with a lack of understanding of general social rules and rituals.
    - Jesse McNelis

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  11. Where are the older ones? by p0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From time to time we hear about such brilliant minds. But what happens when they grow up? Was anyone from here a child prodigy?

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  12. Flying Cars? Or rushing Zerglings... by Mingco · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give a year, two max. He'll be a master StarCraft player, and all that physics education will go down the drain.

  13. Re:That's a really intersting question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you can find it, "The Prodigy" by Amy Wallace is an excellent one, though out of print now. It details the life of William James Sidis, who lived around the turn of the 20th century. This guy was smart beyond all fucking belief. Among other things, he was speaking at 6 months, had taught himself Latin by 3 years, spoke 7 languages fluently by 7, lectured about 4-dimensional bodies at Harvard at 11, and graduated from the same at 16. And a shitload of other such feats.

    He wrote some academic papers and books under pseudonyms that went wholly unnoticed and un-cared about, even with such topics as postulating black holes well before anyone else. He never had a girlfriend. Never had sex. Never really had much in the way of friends at all. From his twenties onward he completely denied any special intelligence and only worked in manual labor types of jobs, most notably as a calculator operator, wherein he would do all of the calculations in his head and so have most of the day free. The press would openly mock him whenever they could find him.

    His life's passion was collecting streetcar transfer tickets.

    And the scariest part: it's non-fiction.

  14. Say what? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry, but in what parallel dimension do they teach maturity in the school system?

    In all the schools I went to, the clique-ized and institutionalized immaturity was actively supported by the teaching staff that openly favored the "popular" kids. The end result when this cancer has fully metastasized is national news stories of the football team stuffing foriegn object up the asses of other students while the coach looks on approvingly. Google on "mepham high football". And that's the best case. Worst case is Columbine.

    Maybe that's teaching about the real world, but don't you dare call it maturity.

  15. Re:Hmmmm by yeOldeSkeptic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I took a course in BS Physics and I had a classmate like that. He entered University at the age of 10 direct from grade 5. His teachers noticed him sleeping most of the time in classes but when tested he knew more than his teachers. He was accelerated to a special science high school for above-average kids but after 6 months his teachers told his parents that they have nothing more to teach him. He was then sent directly to university where he was enrolled in the BS Math, BS Physics and MS Physics courses at the same time! He is good! He can compute sines and cosines in his head and can sum a taylor series without writing anything down. When he became my lab mate, we would use him as a calculator because he can compute much faster than our electronic calculators. During the time spent entering numbers on the calculator he would be able to tell us the results. We just decided to call out the numbers to him rather than have the calculator do it for us. He is a walking calculator. That was more than twenty years ago. Ever since graduating from university I have sought to find out if he has somehow made a significant contribution to physics commensurate with his abilities. After scouring newspapers and the university newsletters, I have found none. It was a disappointment. I don't know if going to university at such an early age was the right thing he did. Obviously, he was far too advanced to stay in grade 5. However, I doubt it if being forced to study in the university at his age was the right approach. He was interviewed by a newspaper once when he was my classmate. He was asked how he felt about being accelerated from grade 5 to university in less than a year. I can't forget what he said in the interview. He said he felt lonely because he has no friends in the university. All the others guys want to talk about is their girlfriends while all he wanted to do was build a paper airplane and sail it across the classroom.