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Vatican Rejects Intelligent Design?

typobox43 writes "A Vatican representative has expressed a defense of the theory of evolution, stating that it is "perfectly compatible" with the Genesis story of creation. "The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim," he said at a Vatican press conference. He said the real message in Genesis was that "the universe didn't make itself and had a creator"." Of course, it'd probably be best if fundmentalists actually talked to, say, the rabbis who wrote the whole thing down. The Orthodox rabbis I've spoken find it amazingly amusing that people take the creation story as literal truth, rather then a story about YHWH's power.

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  1. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank God for rejecting Intelligent Design!

    1. Re:Thanks by The+Lord+God · · Score: 5, Funny
      Indeed, let us give thanks for its creation of evolution. I wonder how many ideas were rejected before god came upon this one?

      No problem. That whole intelligent design idea never worked quite right. In the end it was just too brittle. Then one day I was near a river and saw haw the water would adapt its flow to accomodate the shape of the rocks and sediment, and it just hit me. How simple! If I let everything adapt then I don't have to figure it all out in advance! It will take care of itself. Let me tell you, that was one happy moment. I started to shout "eureka" and run around naked, but then I thought "no, I'll let someone else have that."

  2. As seen on TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I reject your reality and substitute my own." -Adam from MythBusters.

  3. TOOI (reposted!) by General+Alcazar · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like to think of ID as the Theory Of Our Own Ignorance (TOOI).

    Mr. Science: "Today, class, we are going to test the Theory Of Our Own Ignorance, sometimes also known as Intelligent Design, or ID. OK, who wants to volunteer?"

    Johnny: "I will, Mr. Science!"

    Mr. Science: "Fine, Johnny. Now, I want you to look at this bird. Do you know what kind of bird this is Johnny?"

    Johnny: "Yes, sir. It is a finch."

    Mr. Science: "Very good, Johnny! Now, can you tell me how the wings of this bird came to be?"

    Johnny: "I suspect that they grew, Mr. Science."

    Mr. Science: "No, no, Johnny. I mean, do you know how the wings of this finch evolved?

    Johnny: "Gosh, no. No, I don't."

    Mr. Science: "Very good, Johnny! You have confirmed my test."

    Johnny: "What test is that, Mr. Science?"

    Mr. Science: "I was testing to see if you knew how the wings of this bird evolved. The Theory Of Our Own Ignorance predicted that you would not know, and since you did not, this validates our theory - that we do not know how this bird developed wings!"

    Class: "Awesome!"

  4. Sorry, by Gannoc · · Score: 5, Funny


    The fundimentalists stopped listening to Jews in A.D 33

  5. I know, use the PET PSYCHIC!!! by StressGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    oh wait...you said Rabbi's

    nevermind

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    1. Re:I know, use the PET PSYCHIC!!! by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny
      You wascally wabbi!

      I just had an image of Elmer Fudd pointing his gun at an Orthodox Jew with a Bronx accent who then jumps down a hole... man, I am just not getting enough sleep these days.

      Duck Season! Rabbi Season! Duck Season!

  6. Re:Talk to those that wrote it down? by aurelian · · Score: 5, Funny
    How exactly is that going to happen? Since this was all written down thousands of years ago, how is someone going to talk to those rabbis? WABAC perhaps?

    well, compared with the people/beings they usually communicate with, surely it would be easy to talk to someone who did actually exist once?

  7. Re:I don't see the big deal behind intelligent des by ad0gg · · Score: 4, Funny
    [blockquote][i]I don't see why the two theories can't be merged. *shrug*[/i][/blockquote] If someone wants to believe in ID, by all means, that is your choice. However, the reason the scientific community is reticent to "merge" the two is that their is no scientific fact or observation supporting ID. It is a tautology, stating that there' must be a Designer because the world can't exist without one. That's just bad science.

    Theories can't be merged because evolution uses slashot forum system and ID uses UBB forum system. Posts are incompatbile with each other.

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  8. In other news... by Microsift · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Vatican has also come out against the idea that thunder is caused by angels bowling.

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  9. Re:Attack the messenger (please) by BLAG-blast · · Score: 5, Funny
    If we go after ID'ers personally (which normally I'd be all in favor of, because they're jackasses) then they'll scream "persecution,"M=

    So what, they should be used to it. Bring me some lions!

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  10. Re:A little offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think you are remembering a short story by Isaac Asimov, titled 'How It Happpened'.

    Link: http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/asimovdo.htm

  11. Re:Talk to those that wrote it down? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think you need more monkeys - that's still not Shakespeare.

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  12. Re:Attack the messenger (please) by Fiver- · · Score: 5, Funny

    He tells Man (a special creation that did not come from 'lower' beings) to 'be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth'. He also tells Adam that he is in charge of the brids of the sky and beasts of the ground.

    Ah yes, the Intelligent Designer who didn't realize that Adam would need a mate.

    It's so plausible!

    Now tell me the one about the talking snake.

  13. Re:Attack the messenger (please) by AndersOSU · · Score: 4, Funny

    NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!

  14. How It Happened by Alien54 · · Score: 5, Funny

    HOW IT HAPPENED - Isaac Asimov

            My brother began to dictate in his best oratorical style, the one
    which has the tribes hanging on his words.
            "In the beginning," he said, "exactly fifteen point two billion
    years ago, there was a big bang and the Universe--"
            But I had stopped writing. "Fifteen billion years ago?" I said
    incredulously.
            "Absolutely," he said. "I'm inspired."
            "I don't question your inspiration," I said. (I had better not.
    He's three years younger than I am, but I don't try questioning his
    inspiration. Neither does anyone else or there's hell to pay.) "But are
    you going to tell the story of Creation over a period of fifteen billion
    years?"
            "I have to," said my brother. "That's how long it took. I have it
    all here," he tapped his forehead, "and it's on the very highest authority."
            By now I had put down my stylus. "Do you know the price of
    papyrus?" I said.
            "What?" (He may be inspired but I frequently noticed that the
    inspiration didn't include such sordid matters as the price of papyrus.)
            I said, "Suppose you describe one million years of events to each
    roll of papyrus. That means you'll have to fill fifteen thousand rolls.
    You'll have to talk long enough to fill them and you know that you begin to
    stammer after a while. I'll have to write enough to fill them and my fingers
    will fall off. And even if we can afford all that papyrus and you have the
    voice and I have the strength, who's going to copy it? We've got to have a
    guarantee of a hundred copies before we can publish and without that where
    will we get the royalties from?"
            My brother thought a while. He said, "You think I ought to cut it
    down?"
            "Way down," I said, "if you expect to reach the public."
            "How about a hundred years?" he said.
            "How about six days?" I said.
            He said, horrified, "You can't squeeze Creation into six days."
            I said, "This is all the papyrus I have. What do YOU think?"
            "Oh well," he said, and began to dictate again, "In the beginning --
    Does it have to be six days, Aaron?"
            I said, firmly, "Six days, Moses."

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  15. Re:Why Christians should abhor ID by Phreakiture · · Score: 4, Funny

    There was no octopus, spider, bee, or ant on Noah's ark... Again, this is only implied. But the bible is meant to be taken purely at face value, right?

    This presents and interesting concept.

    Yahweh (to the other gods): Hey guys, I need to reformat the Earth. Any objections?

    Other gods: No, just make sure you back up our stuff.

    Yahweh: Okay, no problem. I'll just have this guy named Noah take care of it.

    (Forty days later)

    Yahweh (to the god who created unicorns): Um.... I have some bad news....

    On another note, I have often expressed the idea that there is ample evidence of multiple gods.... Look at the universe and tell me, honestly, that this doesn't look like the work of a committee.

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  16. Re:Exactly! by avi33 · · Score: 5, Funny

    (what the hell do you call someone from Kansas anyway?)

    Pretty soon, we'll call them "Uneducated."

  17. Slashdot has been religioned by Shishberg · · Score: 4, Funny

    The only force in nature more powerful than a slashdotting.

    1217 and counting...

  18. Re:Science and religion by boojum.cat · · Score: 5, Funny
    So you're reading the original Hebrew and Greek texts? Because anything else is an interpretation. Or do you think that one particular translation (into language of your choice) is the correct and ordained one? If so, which?
    As they say, if English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me!
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