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Sony Pulls Controversial Anti-Piracy Software

An anonymous reader writes "Bowing to public outrage, Sony BMG has temporarily halted the use of its controversial anti-piracy software in all of its music CDs, the company said in a statement today. The move comes just a day after a top Bush administration official chided Sony and the entertainment industry for going too far: according to this story over at Washingtonpost.com, Stewart Baker, the Department of Homeland Security's policy czar warned would-be DRM makers: 'It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property -- it's not your computer. And in the pursuit of protection of intellectual property, it's important not to defeat or undermine the security measures that people need to adopt in these days.' The Post has the full text and video of his commentary." We've reported on this story previously.

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  1. They'll still be liable though by metternich · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For the damage their program has already caused.
    I forsee big lawsuits.

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    1. Re:They'll still be liable though by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Most of the lawsuits will be class action lawsuits, which sony will be too glad to settle with the lawyers, thus making a few lawyers very rich.

      What you may get is a discount of 1$ on an already overpriced 20$ CD.

      Sony made a stupid PR mistake, but they are too big a company to really suffer from it so badly, so to completely give up DRM. Come release date of PS3, and all those who critisize sony now, will line up before stall drooling...

      Like it or not, fair use will be a thing of past, in the years to come.

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    2. Re:They'll still be liable though by Jaseoldboss · · Score: 5, Insightful
      To quote from the website of the British Phonographic Industry

      The unauthorised distribution of music over the internet is against the law. It infringes the legal rights of artists and record companies. And it's bad for music.


      How hollow those words ring now, let me paraphrase in light of what Sony is accused of.

      The unauthorised tampering with users computers is against the law. It infringes the legal rights of customers. And it's bad for music.

      If there is one thing I'm sick of it's being preached to in this manner by corrupt, self serving sleazy corporate fat cats.
  2. They're not going to recall their CDs... by volpone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What difference does this statement make? None at all. It's not like Sony will recall the millions of CDs out there with the malware. This is just spin. Move along.

  3. Keep up the pressure by nuggz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good, now keep up the pressure. Unless Sony feels real pain for going too far it will encourage others to keep pushing the envelope on what is acceptable.

    This is why punative damages for "bad behaviour" exist, to make the company take notice and change their behaviour.

    Don't let them get off easy.

    1. Re:Keep up the pressure by demachina · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Setback for DRM yes, a lost battle, but a battle does not a war make.

      This is a quote you should save for coming years.

      "It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property -- it's not your computer."

      Drag this quote out out when Trusted Computing, Vista and its successors come out and Microsoft and Intel really do seize control of your computer and everything on it and get away with it.

      I think most of this backlash is just due to the fact Sony, a non U.S. corporation did it, and it was done as an add on. If in the future Microsoft does more or less the same thing, though better integrated and implemented, and ships it bundled in the OS it might well get forced on the world without a peep from the U.S. government.

      In particular Microsoft just need to sell Trusted Computing and DRM as a defense against terrorism, as pro democracy, freedom and capitalism and the Federal government will be cheering it on.

      To put it another way Sony's effort was just badly marketed and marketing is everything in this sorry world we live in.

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  4. Bush Administration by jbellows_20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Man, what to say? They said something right for a change.

  5. Re:Dept of Homeland Security? by (A)*(B)!0_- · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come on - you're on Slashdot and you can't figure out the implications of a large population of easily infected machines with a common point of entry?

  6. Still no word on Sony's Mac DRM by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Macintouch reports that Sony is also putting Macintosh DRM on some of its disks. No word if these kernel extensions - PhoenixNub1.kext and PhoenixNub12.kext - are a rootkit or not, and no word if Sony is suspending their use or not.

    According to the Macintouch article, the Mac DRM is on Imogen Heap's Speak for Yourself, an RCA CD distributed by Sony/BMG.

    I suspect that CD-makers won't be able to keep a stunt like this secret for 8 months next time, because their customers will be watching for such shenannigans.

    Now we wait for Sony to issue a recall.

    "All your replacement CDs are belong to us" - Sony's customers.

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  7. Why am I not surprised? by Cl1mh4224rd · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The move comes just a day after a top Bush administration official chided Sony and the entertainment industry for going too far [...]
    Months of potential and prior customers crying foul and Sony's response is, "Meh. It's not that bad, but here's a half-assed patch and some hoops to jump through."

    A day after someone in the government goes, "Naughty, naughty," Sony's suddenly pulling their DRM, if even "temporarily".

    It can't be anymore obvious what Sony thinks of their customers...
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  8. Flu epidemic - warning to malware writers by davidwr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the Washington Post article:

    [Stewart Baker, Homeland Security's assistant secretary for policy, said:]
    "If we have an avian flu outbreak here and it is even half as bad as the 1918 flu epidemic, we will be enormously dependent on being able to get remote access for a large number of people, and keeping the infrastructure functioning is a matter of life and death and we take it very seriously."


    Does this mean if malware keeps people from getting medical help the authors can be convicted of manslaughter?

    Jury: We find the defendant guilty on each of the 100 million counts of computer tampering and 2 million counts of involuntary manslaughter.
    Judge: I hereby sentence you to 10 million sentences of 2 years of probation and 2 million sentences of 6 months in jail followed by 5 years probation. Due to the outrageous nature of your conduct, sentences are to be served consecutively. You should be out in time to watch the sun swallow the earth.

    Delicious!!!!!!!

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  9. Re:Homeland Security by keraneuology · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The dept of Homeland Security has been worried for some time about the possibility of foreign nationals creating botnets which might allow them to ddos critical online national assets.

    Fair enough, but the millions of zombies hosted by comcast, bellsouth.net, or SBC doesn't interest them, the massive security flaws that allow any Microsoft machine to become a zombie just by connecting it to the internet and going for a pizza don't interest them, but a Van Zant (and other) CDs elicit a response from the tier 1 level?

    Pardon my cynicism but I suspect that -this- received the attention because no matter what people will always buy broadband internet and people will always buy Microsoft but the paranoid with the amplifying tinfoil hats just might start to demand oversight of DRM technologies to the point where the major congressional donors of the RIAA/MPAA might suffer an induced case of the fidgets.

    (Not that there's much danger of that... at this moment the #1 selling album on amazon is 12 Songs [Content/Copy-Protected CD] by Neil Diamond).

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  10. No by Armour+Hotdog · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Check out their full statement (from a Security Focus article):

    We are aware that a computer virus is circulating that may affect computers with XCP content protection software. The XCP software is included on a limited number of SONY BMG content protected titles. This potential problem has no effect on the use of these discs in conventional, non-computer-based, CD and DVD players.

    In response to these events, SONY BMG has swiftly provided a patch to all major anti-virus companies and to the general public that guards against precisely the type of virus now said to exist. The patch fixes the possible software problem, and still allows CDs to be played on personal computers. It can be downloaded at http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/. Starting today, we will also be adding this link to the SONY BMG label and corporate sites. We deeply regret any possible inconvenience this may cause.

    We stand by content protection technology as an important tool to protect our intellectual property rights and those of our artists. Nonetheless, as a precautionary measure, SONY BMG is temporarily suspending the manufacture of CDs containing XCP technology. We also intend to re-examine all aspects of our content protection initiative to be sure that it continues to meet our goals of security and ease of consumer use. More information about our content protection initiative can also be found at: http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp.


    They're spinning this with all their might. Remember that the patch they so proudly trumpet (look how serious we are about protecting our customers!) doesn't remove the rootkit - it merely disables the cloaking feature. Also note that while they say they are suspending manufacture of these CDs, there is no mention of any effort to remove already manufactured copies from store shelves or the distribution network. Considering that CDs are stamped in large production runs and then kept in inventory, they really haven't committed to anything except to "re-examine all aspects of our content protection initiative to be sure that it continues to meet our goals of security and ease of consumer use." (and note how their goals do not include consumer privacy or control over their own electronic devices).

    No, I don't think we forgive them for this for a long time yet.
  11. Why can't they go to jail? by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree that Sony will probably just write a check to a bunch of lawyers and maybe fire some guys, but why can't people go to jail for these kinds of things?

    It always strikes me as odd that you can fuck up thousands of people's lives (in this case, their computers), knowingly and deliberately, and the only outcome is that some lawyers get rich and a few overpaid *might* have to use their golden parachutes.

    Why isn't this thousands of counts of unauthorized use of a computer? I know that "throw 'em in jail" really isn't a large-scale social solution, but there needs to be a way for our corporate leaders to understand that not only can they not steal and get away with it (cf various corporate thefts), if they abuse their corporate power and mess with people lives, you know what, you might go to jail, too.

    1. Re:Why can't they go to jail? by soupdevil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Corporations limit the liability of individuals. That's their primary purpose. That said, we should put corporations in jail. Should they be found guilty, Sony should have to cease operations for the extent of their sentence.

  12. Already product in the channel by Chief+Typist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "As a precautionary measure, Sony BMG is temporarily suspending the manufacture of CDs containing XCP technology," it said in a statement.

    So why aren't they recalling the product that's already in the channel? There are thousands (millions?) of discs sitting on retailers shelves that are just waiting to install the rootkit. Oh yeah, that would hurt their bottom line.

    Until it costs them, they're not going to learn.

    -ch

  13. The purpose of a class action by rgoldste · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure, a class action won't help consumers much. But the actual harm in this case was thankfully pretty small, anyway.

    The reason you put together a class action is to consolidate thousands of small claims, and in doing so come up with a total liability that Sony has to pay for. A class action against Sony would cost them a nice chunck of change, "helping them manage their access" to consumers' computers. In other words, a class action, which will almost certainly be settled, is how hundreds of little guys get together to punish the big guy for infringing on their rights.

    I don't think any other western democracy allows U.S.-style class actions, and that's because the class action fulfills a role in the U.S. that the government fills in other countries. Specifically, the class action allows private parties to regulate and enforce the laws via large monetary damages, e.g., environmental laws and consumer protection laws. In other countries, the national government would be more involved in enforcing these laws.

  14. Baker doing what politicians do best- distracting by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Stewart Baker, the Department of Homeland Security's policy czar warned would-be DRM makers: 'It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property -- it's not your computer. And in the pursuit of protection of intellectual property, it's important not to defeat or undermine the security measures that people need to adopt in these days.'

    How about: "it's not your computer. You do not have the right to install software components on someone's computer that spy on them, without their permission. That is computer trespassing and wiretapping. The FBI is currently investigating; in the meantime, here is a court order to remove any CDs with this software from shelves immediately, and we expect you to fully assist consumers with identifying whether a machine has the software installed, and the removal process."

    What Baker is doing is trumpeting the Homeland Security line ("Won't someone PLEASE think of the Homeland Security?!"), and distracting us from the more important issue-that a corporation installed trojan programs that spy on people, and probably broke an number of laws doing so.

  15. Re:Homeland Security by Piquan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fair enough, but the millions of zombies hosted by comcast, bellsouth.net, or SBC doesn't interest them, the massive security flaws that allow any Microsoft machine to become a zombie just by connecting it to the internet and going for a pizza don't interest them, but a Van Zant (and other) CDs elicit a response from the tier 1 level?

    There's a difference. Microsoft's security model is an existing threat, with no easy solution. This type of DRM is a new threat, with the easy solution of "don't start doing this". The DHS is simply advocating this easy solution.

    That's not to say that the problems you mentioned aren't getting tier 1 attention. But they aren't a simple, sound-bitable public statement.

  16. Re:Homeland Security by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the easier explanation is that unintentionally crappy software doesn't concern them, but intentionally invasive software does. ;p