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Dapper Drake Hits Ubuntu Servers

linuxbeta writes "Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) daily builds have hit the Ubuntu servers. Dapper's goals: Substantial polish and integration, software discovery and installation, make network-wide enterprise updates easy to manage, consider LSB and related certification standards and support for deployment of Dapper on mission-critical servers. Screenshots have already surfaced."

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  1. Re:VIA C3 Bug by orkysoft · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds to me like it's VIA's C3 bug, not Ubuntu's bug. Maybe you should get a distro compiled for i586 or even i386 instead of for i686, as a workaround?

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  2. Screenshots show nothing new by nharmon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it just me, or do the screenshots not really show anything new? I mean Ubuntu is cool and all, but these are just screenshots of Ubuntu, and does not even include the new enterprise management stuff.

  3. Ok, it's been released... by ThatGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, I see a new installer has been released. Any word on how it compares to other installers? It looks pretty much like the Debian installer, and the (gulp) RedHat installation has been pretty easy for some time.

    What's the "killer feature" for this installer?

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    1. Re:Ok, it's been released... by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why does an installer need a "killer feature"? Isn't it enough that it's an easy/efficient/effective means of getting the system installed?

  4. Re:Ugly Theme by nine-times · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Speaking of the look of Ubuntu, why do we always get screenshots in these things? Right now, Dapper looks like Breezy. Which looks like... Gnome with a brown theme.

  5. Re:Maybe it's just me by MoonFog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I care, and since it's posted here, there are probably others as well. Don't like it, don't read it.

    I enjoy getting info on Linux distros on Slashdot, their updates etc. It sure as hell beats having 2000 Google stories and 5 "infomercials" for some dude looking for money to fund some science project. If you're tired of these submissions, just choose to ignore Linux threads in your preferences page.

  6. Pointless by MoogMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't really see the point of screenshots or reviews at this time. It's way too early for it to have changed much - visually - (if at all) since Breezy.

  7. Re:Ubuntu Linux... by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, many of the more advanced developers are switching to Ubuntu because it does offer all the power of Debian, while also being more up-to-date and developed quicker.

    It allows serious developers to focus on programming and software design, rather than painstakingly maintaining their computer system(s). After all, productivity is a must these days, and Ubuntu does much to increase it.

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  8. Re:What is new with ubuntu? by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't blame the screenshots. After all, they do just show GNOME. GNOME is a very small part of Ubuntu. Many Ubuntu users even choose to ditch GNOME in favour of KDE (thus Kubuntu).

    The main thing to focus on is the fantastic package management system, the up-to-date packages, and the overall integration of the system. It's a distro that just works, and that is exactly what a busy user needs.

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  9. Re:Ubuntu Linux... by CyricZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Indeed. It will be quite interesting to see if Red Hat and Novell/SuSE will be able to match the momentum of Ubuntu/Kubuntu.

    I know many people who have become disenchanted with the Red Hat and SuSE distros. While they were near, if not at, the top of the game once, they may not remain there much longer.

    I'm aware of a number of people, myself included, who gave Fedora Core a try. And frankly, we were not impressed. I had the installer crash on me, and the others I talked with ran into a multitude of other problems. They were simple problems that shouldn't exist in a modern distro.

    Meanwhile, there's all the nonsense with Novell/SuSE switching SuSE to GNOME. SuSE has been a KDE-based distro for years, and it has worked very well. As a former fan of SuSE, I do not think I'll bother buying their products if they go with GNOME as their default desktop, rather than KDE.

    Some of the people I know went back to Slackware, others to Debian, and myself to Kubuntu. Until Red Hat and Novell/SuSE get their acts together, Ubuntu/Kubuntu may very well have a strong future.

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  10. Theme by rathehun · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Jeez, ~30 posts, and already people are complaining about Gnome, and the Ubuntu theme. You know what? I like it. I'm sure there are other people who do as well.

    How hard is it to change? Two levels down, IIRC, and you don't have to click apply, unlike on my XP machine. The brown theme is minimalist, it's earthy, and it's a *really* welcome change from the stupid industrial blue/grey offend no-one look of a corporate release.

    To reply to another post, the XP Blue theme sucks big time, but the Energy Blue one, which comes as default (I believe) with Media Center, is rather easy on the eyes. However, I really, would NOT mind a Gnome themed desktop, and if I could use it without the need for a stupid hack like WindowsBlinds/ThemeXP/whateverthefuck, I would.

    I really don't know why there is such a big fuss. Change it if you like. Use Kubuntu.

    Sheesh.

  11. Re:Must every thread be used by you for proselytiz by donscarletti · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yep, Firefox doesn't really fit in with Gnome that well. That is why it isn't "part of the gnome desktop". The official Gnome browser is "Epiphany" which is a browser based on the Geko engine. Epiphany is very consistant with the gnome look at feel (and apparently the "user experience") yet has shortcomings of its own, mainly due to it's faily constricted feature set. Ubuntu has raised quite a shit storm by its choice of Firefox over Epiphany as its default browser. There is a fair amount of politics surrounding the whole thing since many Gnome stalwarts see it as making the experience inconsistant (which is undoubtably true). Ubuntu believes having Firefox which is familiar to many windows users as the default browser will give their distro a familiar face to new users, as well as it having a far bigger featureset. The whole thing has been a political quagmire ever since its inception. To me Epiphany was a sad departure from Gnome's original "adopt rather than duplicate" philosophy. Gnome originally adopted Mozilla, Enlightenment/sawfish and Xscreensaver as parts of the desktop, while KDE had Konquerer, KWM and their own screen locking package. These days Gnome includes Epiphany, Metacity and Gnome-screensaver, all developed in house. To me it is a sad departure from the original, wider community focused viewpoint of Gnome nestling in a small niche between the applications that a user or distro chooses.

    To me, the best path for Gnome to take is to work with Firefox, leaveraging mutual official endorcement to work towards consistancy (mainly in regards to things like the file selector) rather than simply re-inventing what I see to be a wooden spoked wheel without enough tread. But the Gnome crew demands to see consistancy now and they see making their own browser to be far easier.

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  12. Firewall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ubuntu's policy about firewalls is not having one but not having any unnecessary services either. Makes sense to me, but it might not make sense to someone who has been exposed to the buzzword so often he is led to think that it's a core component of computing instead of a band-aid.