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Red Hat Listed Among 50 Top Tech Companies
Kelvin Ekston writes " Red Hat is listed among ZDNet Asia's 50 Top Tech companies 2006. It is also one of the fastest growing companies with 210.4% year on year income growth over 4 years.
While almost all Linux companies grapple with the perennial question of how they can make money through software subscriptions and services rather than selling packaged boxes, Red Hat finally managed to improve credibly and match the hype with substance and show the way to do business with Linux. That's the way to go!"
BAH!!! REDCRAP is the WORST piece of shit I've ever used. We just bought a bunch of RHEL 4 AS licenses, and it has been a freaking nightmare. Support sucks, and takes its own sweet time if it's not something easily found. And they'll ask you to test things out for things that they've confirmed to be issues - WTF? If you FSCKING know it's an issue, you can FSCKING TEST IT OUT YOURSELF, damned lazy bastards.
I also like the way they push things off to others. Oh, disk druid is broken? Use fdisk. Umm, excuse me, but where's fdisk when I'm trying to install? And why aren't you putting in a ticket to engineering to get it fixed?
And I especially love the way everything is bundled together. So, now, my choice is waste 1G of disk space on win2k, or waste 1G of disk space on REDCRAP, when all I'm trying to do is run a freaking web server?!
Oh, oh, lets not even mention the fact that RHEL4 can't even run, out of the box, on platforms that they advertize for!!!! Yeah, go perform a default install of RHEL4 on a dual core opteron, reboot, and watch it hang. Why the fsck do you put in the smp kernel, if it doesn't fucking work?
And of course, the support and registration sites going up and down, and taking more than 24 hours to get my damned registration in.
And lets not talk about how much fun it was doing an up2date to go from RHEL 4 to RHEL 4 U1 and U2. Freaking dependency failures, and killing the box so bad that it can't reboot, and needing a re-install.
And did you know that even though you paid thousands of dollars for that nice RHEL 4 dvd, you can't get an actual working RHEL 4 U2 dvd. They want you to download CD isos. You see, this is because:
I'm not shitting you, those were the exact answers given to me. Of course, the fact that:
You obviously do not have experience with REDCRAP, but is just a dumb pawn for the fedora crap. If I pay for something, I expect it to work as advertized, even though this is software we are talking about.
>> BAH!!! REDCRAP is the WORST piece of shit I've ever used. We just bought a bunch of
>> RHEL 4 AS licenses, and it has been a freaking nightmare. Support sucks, and takes
>> it own sweet time if it's not something easily found. And they'll ask you to test things
>> out for things that they've confirmed to be issues - WTF? If you FSCKING know it's an
>> issue, you can FSCKING TEST IT OUT YOURSELF, damned lazy bastards.
>Lazy? Have you any idea how long it could take to >*accurately* reproduce a problematic
>environment for this kind of work? It may not even >be possible. By asking you to help out,
>they are helping *YOU* out - FOSS is all about >co-operation btw.
This is NOT about FOSS. This is about REDCRAP's support, which is allegedly what I get, when I pay them shitloads of money for free crap. Further more, if you have had some reading comprehension, you will note that I stated that support had already cnfirmed the bug as something that exists - if it's a known issue, and they want to know more about how it behaves, then they should fscking test it out, and then only go bother the customers.
>> I also like the way they push things off to others. Oh, disk druid is broken? Use fdisk.
>> Umm, excuse me, but where's fdisk when I'm trying to install? And why aren't you putting
>> in a ticket to engineering to get it fixed?
>It's on virtual console 2 (Alt-F2, or Ctrl-Alt-F2 if >you're using graphical). Learn to use
>the tools in your hands before criticising the help >offered by others. Or find out what a
>kickstart %pre script is good for.
Hmm, valid point, I didn't check to see if fdisk actually exist. But neither did support mention this - and the question has been posed to them for more than 2 days now.
>> And I especially love the way everything is bundled together. So, now, my choice is waste
>> 1G of disk space on win2k, or waste 1G of disk space on REDCRAP, when all I'm trying to
>> do is run a freaking web server?!
>You installed your webserver with a pre-defined >package profile? What are you? Fscking crazy?
You have not had a chance to install REDCRAP lately have you? I'm not talking about the pansy ass fedora crap, I'm talking about RHEL 4. *you* show me an install that's under 800Megs.
>Learn to do a kickstart like everyone else and have *only* the packages you select.
>Oh, wait, you probably don't even know what packages you want or need.
Some people obviously like to hear the sound of their own voices. Tell you what, I'll make it easy on you. Go install RHEL4 under 500 megs, with a working apache server, only using standard RHEL4 rpms.
>*sharpens the clue-by-four*
*and accidentally takes off his own hand*
>> Oh, oh, lets not even mention the fact that RHEL4 can't even run, out of the box, on
>> platforms that they advertize for!!!! Yeah, go perform a default install of RHEL4 on a
>> dual core opteron, reboot, and watch it hang. Why the fsck do you put in the smp kernel,
>> if it doesn't fucking work?
>You mean the dual core opterons that weren't even >available as engineering samples at the
>time RHEL4 was being cut?
Oh, you mean they were not telling me the truth? They sold me a defective product?! They lied about a working smp kernel? OK, even if I grant you that they did not have a working smp kernel - WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU INCLUDE IT ON THE FUCKING CD THEN?!
>Ahh, of course, Red Hat should have just used their magic crystal
>ball.
Well, they wouldn't need to, not with fanboys like you around.
>In the mean time, install update 2 like the rest of the san
JD, the issue is not about opensource, but about a commercial OS that is sold, that is sorely lacking in QA and support.
Complaints about REDCRAP are not complaints about opensource. I use gentoo and openbsd, both personally, and professionally, and I get exactly the kind of support I put back into it. With REDCRAP, all I got was a couple of months of frothing at mouth type issues, because REDCRAP fscked up yet again. This is simply not acceptable in an enterprise environment.