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Red Hat Listed Among 50 Top Tech Companies

Kelvin Ekston writes " Red Hat is listed among ZDNet Asia's 50 Top Tech companies 2006. It is also one of the fastest growing companies with 210.4% year on year income growth over 4 years. While almost all Linux companies grapple with the perennial question of how they can make money through software subscriptions and services rather than selling packaged boxes, Red Hat finally managed to improve credibly and match the hype with substance and show the way to do business with Linux. That's the way to go!"

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  1. Re:What a suprise..... by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Beat me to the punch.
    Its the same as when people complain that surveys done that show Windows is better than Linux is funded by Microsoft. This should be taken with a large grain (hell, a pinch) of salt.

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  2. Re:No surprise by DogDude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and already has a pretty solid presence in the business space.

    Yeah. 2 years of profits. That's solid.

    That might be considered "solid" in the Open Source industry, but as a business in general, they're still considered a relatively unproven start-up. I want to see at least a solid 5-10 years of profitability before I'd consider investing a dime, personally.

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  3. Re:Red Hat cosponsored the survey... by Rei · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Agreed. I find it amusing that I've found even things like working with apt easier on Fedora than I did on my Debian box (before I converted it over), given that I first learned apt through Debian like many here. Perhaps it's because there are so many well-maintained RPM repositories like Dag, Dries, et al out there.

    My whole office at work uses RHEL - works well, although it doesn't have as wide of RPM support as Fedora, and software stays further behind.

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  4. redhat schmedhat by Xargle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sure they grow their income, but by that's flogging training, support and having an underpaid skeletal staff and not actually doing that much?

    Ever *used* RH support in a corporate environment? If your query is beyond RTFM it's a constant battle to get anywhere. Plus their QA is terrible given they're competing on the corporate level - we've had hanging kernels (on pretty stock hardware) and endless dodgy packages we've had to replace.

    There's this endless love in on messageboards because they're FOSS promoters and actually comply to the GPL, but when it comes to working with them if you're corporate and you don't have a sizeable contract with them (ie. govt or multinational) their product in terms of service is no where near close to what you'd expect from other vendors in the market.

  5. Is Red Hat Linux? by FishandChips · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's interesting to see that they've managed this with less than 1000 employees. Only two others in the list are comparable in this respect. Plenty of other companies on the list have thousands or tens or thousands of employees.

    Red Hat's stock is on an astronomical PE ratio, higher even than Google's. It's pretty instructive comparing the PE ratio to, say, Novell's which is about a tenth as high.

    So, I guess it's clear the financial market is very much buying the line that "Red Hat is Linux", perhaps much more than was the case a year or two ago. Nice news if you're Red Hat. Not so nice for anyone else.

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    1. Re:Is Red Hat Linux? by Otter · · Score: 2, Interesting
      It's interesting to see that they've managed this with less than 1000 employees. Only two others in the list are comparable in this respect. Plenty of other companies on the list have thousands or tens or thousands of employees.

      OK, but only two others in the list have lower revenues! If you look at revenues/employee, Red Hat is ...lessee... 30th of 50, with Hitachi so far in number 1 (36 times that of #2 Dell) I'm thinking there must be a mistake.

      Who was it who was linked here last week saying that table display widgets should be full-featured spreadsheets? I'm all for it!

  6. So why stock down by yapplejax · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If that's the case, then why is RedHat dipping following analyst downgrades?

  7. Re:Good stuff -- by meisenst · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oh, I have nearly 15 years of proven skill. I think what I'm getting at here is, there is a sizeable amount of demand for RH services and/or support -- yet people who are certified with their products seem to find less demand than, say, MCSE.

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  8. Re:What a suprise..... by timeOday · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Microsft is on the list too.

    Besides, RedHat's 36% annual revenue growth for 4 years is impressive. Sure it's easier for smaller company to score big growth numbers, but $200M in revenue and 36% annual growth seems like a pretty nice place to be.

    The nice thing is RedHat's success actually means something to Linux users, even if they're not RedHat customers, because RedHat is quite active in developing OSS.

  9. Perhaps a dime or three wouldn't hurt. by Vengeance · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I personally put some money into RedHat last summer. Not enough to bankrupt me or to get rich, you understand, but I'm currently sitting on about 41% equity growth.

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  10. Re:No surprise by Glock27 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I want to see at least a solid 5-10 years of profitability before I'd consider investing a dime, personally.

    At which point you'll be investing in a mature, proven company...with a lot less growth potential, and hence much lower stock appreciation prospects.

    The way to make big money in the stock market is to find small, great companies and ride their coattails to wealth. More risk, but far greater rewards.

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  11. Interesting that Google is missing... by CptTripps · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought it odd that F5 Networks was there, but Google wasn't...

    I DID like that RH made the list with 800 employees...compared to 11,000 for Apple, or 56,000 for M$.

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  12. Re:Apple is the future, though. RHAT remains niche by e40 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    As the future of Unix, Apple is also making strong claims on the server and super computer markets.
    I call bullshit. We run almost every flavor of UNIX available (AIX, Solaris, FreeBSD, various Linux distros, Tru64, HP-UX, Mac OS X, yada, yada, yada), and I can tell you without a doubt: Mac OS X is the least stable and the most difficult OS to deal with.

    Look at something like AMD (the automounter, not the chip) and NFS. Wanna lock up your Mac OS X box? Merely access the automount point (/net for us). The finder and AMD don't mix. WTF? It's been this way from 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 and now 10.4. Yes, 10.4 is better. Waaaaay better than just a couple of revs ago. Mature it is not. In 10 years it might have a chance, though remote, of being as stable as Linux and Solaris are today.

    In general, when I have some opensource package I need to compile and install on all the UNIX boxes here, what system will make me spend 90% of the time on it? That's right, Mac OS X. Yes, 10.4 is better, but I could waste whole days trying to get crap to compile on 10.3 and before.

  13. Many, many RHEL rebuilds out there by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Scientific Linux is another. They're good for stability, but I wouldn't rate them much for performance (the builds are all pretty safe and have no obvious speedups anywhere), extensibility (very few RPM sites provide RHEL RPMs) or progressiveness (you can't update Enterprise-level software that rapidly, but RHEL is getting positively ancient in places).


    I'm hoping someone'll put together a "best of" compilation, using what's stable (and what can be made stable) from the RPM repositories - including Fedora - but optimized much more aggressively. I would, but I don't have the bandwidth or the disk space to carry a distro. If someone was interested in hosting, that would be another matter. I'd certainly be willing to compile the code and upload it to a host site.

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  14. So what? by flyinwhitey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mod me down if you want, but a few years ago, pets.com could have been listed there too.

    This may be an indication of great things to come, or it could be the start of the much speculated upon Linux bubble.

    Don't jump to conclusions.

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  15. Re:you know redhat has made it by pembo13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Critizing is one thing, but have you read some of the brain dead comments comming out? What exactly is the point of your post?

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  16. Re:And I was going to say ... by scotch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How is RPM fundamentally more flawed than deb, pkg, or other common package formats? Please keep it technical, thank you.

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