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Microsoft Competes In Supercomputer Market

HoboMaster writes "Microsoft is releasing a public beta of Windows Compute Cluster Server 2003 in their first attempt to compete in the supercomputer OS market. Gates is planned to speak at the 2005 Supercomputer Conference, which will be Microsoft's first appearance at the conference. Gates, as always, has high hopes for this new version of Windows, even claiming it to be as powerful and easier to use than Linux."

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  1. oh boy by jst4fun · · Score: 5, Funny

    so its super blue screen(s) of death

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    1. Re:oh boy by DurendalMac · · Score: 5, Funny

      They should have just called it Windows Clusterfuck Edition.

  2. Confused by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "easier to use than Linux"

    Yes? Where is the part about the high hopes for this operating system?

  3. First thing one associates with that name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... well for me, it was clusterfuck.

  4. Wake up, Bill by Fished · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Supercomputers aren't about "Ease of use." They're about speed per dollar. When WCC can beat Linux on price/performance, then people will stand up and take notice. Not before.

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  5. Re:Little redundant... by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know what the "easy to use" argument precisely means in this arena. The people assembling and managing large clusters to produce supercomputers are in a significantly different league than your average MS-Word user. Not to poo-poo MS or anything, but Gates seems to have forgotten the audience in this case.

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  6. Re:Marketing by einhverfr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I worked at Microsoft, I specifically argued *against* getting involved in HPC markets. It isn't really an interesting market. It isn't a big market. And it never will be. If anything it will get smaller rather than bigger. Yes, there are some applications that are not going away but these are not common. After all how many customers does Cray have? How many customers does Microsoft have? Ok, you have the answer to my question. Heck, the ISP and web presence provider markets are more important to Microsoft strategically than HPC.

    Indeed I cannot think of *any* reason why one would want Windows on an HPC cluster. Indeed, with Microsoft's reliance on COM and IPC stuff, I would be highly skeptical of using the Windows development environment in these cases. Yes, async I/O might be more mature on Windows, but I think that on the whole, Linux is a better choice.

    As for the ease of use factor. This is a product that is really only needed by a few highly technical people. Ease of use for beginners is not important here. Ease of use by experienced UNIX admins is. Sadly Windows fails here pretty badly. After all not everyone needs to build a Beowulf cluster with licensed Windows software in their basement and the intensive number crunching apps that such clusters are used for are the exception rather than the rule.

    Finally.....

    Why not take Windows Server 2003 Standard or even XP Pro (for fewer than 10 nodes), install SFU 3.5 and PVM and build your cluster that way? It seems that this would be better for the market than this new product which seems to be the worst of both worlds.

    This is just about saying "Anything Linux can do Windows can do better" rather than pursuing any reasonable business plan.

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  7. If you want easy of use pick *ANYTHING* but Apple by J.+Chrysostom · · Score: 5, Interesting
    We've got a VA Tech-style Apple cluster over the course of the last year here at our university, and let me tell you, that thing had serious problem. It works now, but it took over a year of fighting Apple's stupidity to make the thing function decently. And we're one of the first people to get an Apple cluster up and running for serious computation (unlike VA Tech who have been building it, running the LINPACK benchmark and taking it apart time and time again). Examples of Apple's stupidity:
    • Apple's NFS server only supports 64 simultaneous connection.
    • Apple attempts to explain that "real" supercomputers don't have networked file systems.
    • Disk I/O was slow as molasses. Apple suggests using the AppleTalk protocol to communicate to the file server to speed things up.
    • Disk I/O still slow as molasses. Grad student discovers the software defaulted to non-buffered disk output (flush to disk).