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Truckers Choose Hydrogen Power

hipernoico writes to tell us Wired News is reporting that hundreds of semi trucks now on the roads are being partially powered by hydrogen. From the article: "These 18-wheelers make hydrogen as they go, eliminating the need for high-pressure, cryogenic storage tanks or hydrogen filling stations, which, by the way, don't yet exist. These truckers aren't just do-gooders. They like Canadian Hydrogen Energy's Hydrogen Fuel Injection, or HFI, system because it lets them save fuel, get more horsepower and, as a bonus, cause less pollution."

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  1. What?? by rscoggin · · Score: 5, Funny

    That doesn't fit the rugged stereotypical trucker at all! "Goshdernit, we're gonna pollute all we need to get this convoy to San Antonio by Saturday!"

  2. Re:Hydrogen Wells? by Skyfire · · Score: 5, Informative

    The trucks aren't using hydrogen as their main source of fuel. They are using hydrogen to enhance the combustion of the diesel.

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  3. Maybe a problem by suso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They like Canadian Hydrogen Energy's Hydrogen Fuel Injection, or HFI, system because it lets them save fuel, get more horsepower and, as a bonus, cause less pollution."

    Could our root problem be that we consider less pollution a bonus instead of a motivating factor?

    1. Re:Maybe a problem by Sarisar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As always money first, pollution second.

      Although IMHO this is the only way to actually make people stop polluting - make it cheaper for them not to. Of course I'm sure the power that be would just tax polluters as they can make a LOAD of cash that way (oh wait...)

  4. Not Alone by Altec+at+LM · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not the first marketable apparatus using this technology. H2N-Gen has their very own unit that will cost about 4 grand, will fit under your car's hood, and will be on the market by March. There's been several articles on this (and a recent one in Popular Science, December issue). Here's one http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000373059415/

  5. Re:Hydrogen Wells? by radicalnerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are we talking about perpetual motion?
    No, the trucks still run mainly on diesel augmented with hydrogen.

    ...this fuel source may not be exactly the "less" polluting alternative as one may think.
    It's less polluting because the hydrogen boosts the performance of the engine over burning diesel alone, lowers particulates, and all that good stuff. So it does pollute less, by burning the fuel more efficiently.

  6. Re:Hydrogen Wells? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    The trucks are NOT "partially powered by hydrogen" except in a meaningless technical sense. The trucks are generating small amounts of hydrogen that they have generated (somewhat inefficiently) from water and alternator electricity, using energy derived from diesel fuel as usual. They then inject some of that hydrogen back into the engine for a cleaner burn.

    Diesel engines produce soot (dirty filthy polycyclic aromatic compounds) which represents wasted energy and this is merely a way to cut down on the inefficiency represented by the unextracted energy leaving the exhaust. The mechanism by which adding hydrogen to the air-fuel mixture actually accomplishes this involves some complicated physical chemistry beyond the scope of the article- which goes into a misleading nonsequitur about how trucks might use hydrogen-powered fuel cells someday.

  7. Pretty sure it works by Alcimedes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For all the naysayers, keep in mind, these truckers make their LIVING hauling product long distances. If this didn't work, or made the overall process less effecient, they'd know it. We're talking about their own profits it would be eating into, not some mystery lab result.

    Sorry, but doubt hundreds of truckers are going to do that just to help out a company that involved in "psuedo science".

  8. Did nobody read up on this? by canadianunixbum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Did nobody read up on this? The hydrogen helps the engine burn more of the fuel that would have been released unused. That is why you use less fuel and have lower emissions.

  9. They've had such technology for years! by i41Overlord · · Score: 5, Funny

    They made an engine that could run on water but the Big Oil companies bought the patents and hid it in a dark room and behind closed doors, black helicopters, Area51, republicans, Bob Lazar, tin foil hats, mind control beam, yada yada yada.

  10. Re:Hydrogen Wells? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...considering where the hydrogen is produced, this fuel source may not be exactly the "less" polluting alternative as one may think.

    I am so f sick and tired of gd SUV wanks and oil company astroturfers trotting this one out everytime someone mentions anything that sounds at all like it's going to challenge rotten dinosaur corpses as the fuel of choice.

    RTFA numbnuts! The hydrogen is generated in the engine by the alternator. Despite the vast overhead of this electrolytic separation these guys are still saving 10 grand a year in fuel which easily pays for the simple bolt-on mod within a year or too. The source of the hydrogen is no more polluting than the engine it modifies because it is the engine it modifies.

    Then I notice another equally brilliant mind observing the vast additional burden of 8 lb of water on an 80,000 lb truck. Grab a snatch of a clue as it goes over your head, Sparky. By my calcuations, the entire system, water and all weighs less than the fuel it saves every day.

    For those who can't be bothered to RTFA and aren't completely offended, the system basically adds a small amount of hydrogen to the diesel. The effect is similar (though the mechanism may not be...IANACE) to adding a squirt of acetone to your gas tank.

  11. Re:What, is the Hydrogen a catalyst? by RedWizzard · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Fine, but as parent mentioned, as soon as the engine starts powering the electrolysis you'll be below break-even.
    No. You are only thinking in terms of the energy put into the system by burning the hydrogen compared to the energy removed by making the hydrogen. What you are not considering is the energy put into the system by burning the diesel more efficiently. It's a similar sort of prinicple to using a supercharger: just because the supercharger is being powered by the engine doesn't mean you can get a net power gain. In case of a supercharger the extra power is due to increased fuel and air consumption, in this case it is due to increased efficiency combustion of the diesel fuel.