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Gaming Fanatics Show Hallmarks of Drug Addiction

Game_addict writes "There's a story over at New Scientist saying that a new study has found that game addiction has the same effects on people as drug addiction."

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  1. So ... by b0r1s · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where do I sign up for 'disability' payments?

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  2. Does NOT.. In Fact... by Sfing_ter · · Score: 5, Funny

    It DOES NOT. In Fact, I can stop playing Quake any time I choose. And when I choose to I will. Just not right now. I have a couple more frags to get... NO Really... anytime I want...

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  3. It's a behavioral problem by ReformedExCon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the same way that you can train a dog to salivate at the sound of a bell, you can train people to react in certain ways to various stimuli. That's not drugs, that's Pavlov.

    Gamers (and, dare I say it, many web surfers) have trained themselves to forego real work and real life in favor of a game. In fact, games are especially conducive to this kind of training. The reward/punishment system is more or less random which increases the players' propensity to keep at it in hopes of success.

    Rats who are fed every time they press a button will only press the button when they are hungry. However rats that are fed sometimes and not fed other times when they press a button will press the button all day long.

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  4. Duh! by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Too much of anything seems to have the same effects as a drug addiction. So far we've seen Internet addictions, other Gaming addictions, News addictions, and more.

    Perhaps it's related to the definition of the word "addiction"? When somebody enjoys doing something they obviously want to do it more often. The question is just how much do they let that enjoyment interfere with their lives and possibly the lives of others?

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    1. Re:Duh! by patonw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's more that nonconformist habits are considered harmful to journalists... whatever they are. Excessive socializing can be addictive (not that any of us here are in danger here). Going to work every morning and getting your paycheck every other week is habit forming... I know many people who want to break the habit and just can't.

    2. Re:Duh! by SolitaryMan · · Score: 4, Insightful
      When somebody enjoys doing something they obviously want to do it more often.

      Not that exactly. Addiction is more like a compulsive behaviour: irrationally motivated. It is a complex psychological issue. Game junkies do enjoy gaming, but definitely not THAT much.
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  5. This just in: by oGMo · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Journalists show hallmarks of sensationalistic idiots."

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  6. Dopamine _is_ the physical dependancy. by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The reason people get addicted to substances is that their body adapts so that only that substance can trigger the release of dopamine (i.e. the chemical that makes you feel happy). The point of TFA is that psychological triggers (e.g. gaming) can cause the same adaptation. In this way, gaming addiction is no less "physical" than drug addiction.

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  7. Logical pitfall? by soma_0806 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems like they made the mistake of assuming the converse here. Just because drug addicts are similar to game addicts does not mean game addicts are necessarily like drug addicts.

    Drug addiction, being primarily metabolic, may have a more limited set of idenitifying characteristics. Game addiction, being primarily mental (or maybe even social) has more varying charactistics as psyches and social structures have a lot of built-in variance.

    I'd have a much easier time buying the argument that drug addict behavior/characteristics fit in as a subset of the acceptable behaviors/characteristics of gaming culture.

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    1. Re:Logical pitfall? by 246o1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Drug addiction, being primarily metabolic, may have a more limited set of idenitifying characteristics. Game addiction, being primarily mental (or maybe even social) has more varying charactistics as psyches and social structures have a lot of built-in variance.
      An interesting take on it, but I think you're looking at it the wrong way. As drugs have very specific effects on the body, being generally concentrations of one or several potent substances, it is USEFUL, in terms of conveying information, to say that something as broad and varied as gaming can include these effects, and does, statistically. It is not very USEFUL to compare something to gaming this way, because it is a complex set of behaviors with very varied psychological and physiological consequences. For a more intuitive version of this argument consider saying that Liquids share properties with Milk versus Milk has the properties of Liquids. Liquids, being a very narrowly defined set of properties (==the effects of drugs), is useful for describing milk. Milk has many properties(==the effects of gaming), and the first ones that come to mind are not going to be the same for everyone. "Drugs are like gaming" would only convey information to the extent that people assume you mean "Gaming is like drugs." Granted, here i refer to the effects, not the people, which you might find objectionable.
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  8. Partially True by Ozymand+E.+Us · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From my own experience, I believe this study to be true, but only for certain games. For instance, I've played and beaten DooM, and walked away. I've beaten D2X, but I still continue to play it. What's the difference? The open-endedness.
    A "beatable" game, like DooM, is largely unaddictive. Once you've trashed it on Nightmare Mode, that's it, game over, endostory. Sure, there are timetrial and such, but they're the exceptiont hat proves the rule.
    However a game like Diablo II, one that you can't truly beat, is addictive. Sure, you could kill Baal on Hell and call it a day, but who does that? Everybody keeps playing, building their characters up more and more and more, until you have a level 93 Hammerdin with all the trimmings- and like addicts, my brother and I kept playing.
    (I should note here that I don't consider gaming with friends that you can see addictive behavior. What makes it less socially acceptible than dropping 10 bucks on a movie?)
    I do have one issue with the study. Who's to say that the gamers had less ocular reaction because they were conditioned to having a sudden surprise from gaming itself? I hardly blink anymore when a baddie comes flying out from nowhere.

  9. Re:Big Effing Deal by radicalskeptic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well I know you were probably joking, but really after reading the article, they're talking about different mechanisms in the brain.

    The article talks about how stimuli related to an addictive game/substance can trigger strong desires and reactions in addicted people. However, if you show my mother (a devout Catholic and Sunday school teacher) a cross, she doesn't get the urge to suddenly go to chuch and pray.

    On the other hand, if I watch a Japanese Guilty Gear match, I really do feel restless and end up firing up my Xbox for some sweet, sweet release.

    Now if you'll excuse me I gotta go play some Guilty Gear :/

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  10. What about TV? by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A whole lot of people spend around 4 to 5h in front of a TV every day of the week, mostly without interruption and that's considered normal. TV addiction is much more widespread than computer game addiction. Yet I haven't heard of a TV user anonymous. IMO most TV viewers have serious issues.

    1. Re:What about TV? by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A whole lot of people spend around 4 to 5h in front of a TV every day of the week, mostly without interruption and that's considered normal. TV addiction is much more widespread than computer game addiction. Yet I haven't heard of a TV user anonymous. IMO most TV viewers have serious issues.

      It's not really the same at all. Television "addicts" usually have no problem balancing their time - few TV watchers would skip work, stay up until 4am, or watch for 12 hours straight. Sure, there may be some extreme cases, but the vast majority of TV viewers do not show the typical signs of addiction.

      Contrast that with game addicts - many play to the point of exhaustion, start leading extremely unbalanced schedules, become sleep deprived, shun social interaction.

      MMOs seem to be particularly conducive to this kind of behavior. I stopped playing WOW when the dreams started. Vivid, intense dreams that began to interfere with my perception of reality. At one point, I had difficulty determining if I was asleep or awake.

      This kind of hysteria, this kind of addiction - it's just like a drug. At some point, you're not enjoying the game - you are tired and bored, yet there is something that compells you to keep playing. That's addiction.

      Game addiction, particularly with MMOs, is very similar in many ways to gambling addiction. There is the thrill of victory, the excitement of chance, and the constant "rewards".

      One of my friends has 150 days of logged playtime. That's nearly 12 hours a day, every day, a full 66% of his awake time.

      That's addiction.

  11. UO is the devil! by Anyd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember for a couple years in high school I'd be able to log in about 50 hours over the weekend playing UO (there are ~64 playable hours between when school gets out on friday and restarts on monday.) By the time I went off to college I really felt like I had some social catching-up to do. It really did have about the same influence on my life as a drug addiction would have. I cut off most social ties which didn't involve game-playing, my school work went to sh*t, and it caused all kinds of friction between my parents and I.
    Luckly, once I went off to college I started bartending... and it's hard not to make friends or get dates when you get people drunk for a living!

  12. Re:Big Effing Deal by Dimensio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Therefor I don't think a person can be addicted to religion, how can you be addicted to something that is not real?

    God-belief and adherence to dogma are quite real, regardless of the reality of the gods in question and regardless of the validity of the dogma.

  13. No Joke by Kagenin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Religion is the Opiate of the Masses."

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    1. Re:No Joke by modecx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's the biggest crock of shit statement that I've ever heard. If you're very religious, then your church/instution owns your ass, and most likely for the duration of your life. And, of course, they expect you to pitch in with your time and money. Then, your thoughts should be occupied with the theology constantly, and how to progress further in it. Thats not too much different than how I lusted after some of the rarer unique items in Diablo2. I even had a dream about it, pathetic, yes, but regardless I'm sure I was hooked in a way.

      You can go and look at some of the mega churches that are springing up around the US. They're a self-contained lifestyle, not entirely unlike those Arcologies units you could get in SimCity. Every aspect of many of these people's lives revolves around this giant metal and glass dispenser of salvation, but that's not so different than it has been in the past, is it? Rip one of these people out of their lifestyle, and they're going to suffer!

      There is no such thing as a highly religious person that goes to church only once a week, and dosen't think about it between those periods. Such a person is a Homer Simpson, he goes mostly because EVERYONE else would think that much worse of him if he didn't. Especially Jebus. Of course, there are spiritual people who reject the institution, but not necessairly the enlightenment. Being religious is as much about being married to the institution as it is about following the faith, as I see it.

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    2. Re:No Joke by ClamIAm · · Score: 4, Funny

      "A witty saying proves nothing."

    3. Re:No Joke by vertinox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't mean to troll, but...

      Why would an all powerful all knowing god need lesser beings to believe in him and worship him? Does than not entail that he is not all powerful since he couldn't simply just rise above the simple emotions of boredom and lonliness?

      By all logic, this would make god a sadist for bringing sentient creatures into being just for his plan or purpose. The majority of people that have lived have suffered untold pain and anguish (you know the billions of people who live in poverty and die in wars) and by most of Christianities definition will go to hell.

      Or does this mean that he is not all powerful and does indeed need followers because without them there is a chance he may indeed loose the war?

      So is god a sadist or is he not all powerful?

      Secondly why is there no mention of hell in the old testament, just the discussion of separation from god. If god loved his chosen people so much why didn't he warn them of this years before Jesus arrived on the earth.

      And if he was all powerful and wanted us to behave and follow him then why wasn't he less vague with the whole ordeal. An all knowing being would obviously know that humans aren't very good at inferring things. The only thing in the bible that god directly communicated with in writing was the 10 commandments and even then they are very open to language interpretation. Why couldn't he just have wrote the whole bible himself in stone somewhere with infinite amount of clauses and explanations.

      Personally, I do believe in a God but not as a being that is human like and is all things good and evil, but more along the lines of a being that transcends these things and has nothing to with Christianity, Islam, or Judaism which totally misinterpreted what they believed to be god. Perhaps the only logical religion is Buddhism, but there are some things I disagree with that. At least they try to explain everything logically and tend to not be militant about their beliefs.

      Sadly enough, I came to these views on my own and I didn't even study aetheism or live in anti-religeous environment. Mostly I just questioned what was given to me by those around me as I grew up and I still haven't had any logical answers other than someone quoting a vague bible passage which I ask if they could speak the hebrew or at least greek version of it so we can really determine the nature of the passage rather than a bad English translation.

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  14. Gateway drug? by daniel422 · · Score: 5, Funny

    And this article doesn't even go near the gateway aspect of videogames. Why I never started drinking and smoking dope until I started playin'. Now it's all been downhill. After that last all-night coke binge playing Sonic the Hedgehog I figured enough was enough...it was time to turn my life around. And it all started with a few mushrooms and a crazy guy called Mario....

  15. Newsflash: Brain lacks dedicated gaming module! by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From TFA:

    Grüsser says that addictions stem from relying too heavily on one coping strategy, which eventually becomes the only activity that can activate the dopamine system and bring a person relief. "It's the same mechanism in all addicts," she says.

    You mean the brain doesn't have completely separate mechanisms for addictions to video games and drugs (and gambling, and sex ...)? Gee, I wonder how evolution missed that one. In related news, the human body reacts similarly to getting hit by a baseball bat as getting hit by a cricket bat. No kidding ... the same mechanism! :)

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  16. From first-hand experience, it doesn't by Numen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I spent 6 months in rehad many years ago when I was 18. Any comparison between "gaming addiction" and drug addiction is silly, and moreso insulting. I have lost several friends to overdose and hiv as a result of drug abuse. I have lost no friends to "gaming addiction".... Chemical Dependence run in my family, and has impacted many lives within my family alone. Gaming addiction doesn't.

    In our next article.... Studies Say, Trauma Cause By Paper Cuts Comparable To Road Traffic Accidents.

    Wankers.

  17. ObPA by SinaSa · · Score: 4, Funny

    They say there is a Penny Arcade for every slashdot article.

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/08/28

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  18. Re:Big Effing Deal by scumbaguk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Behavour is chemical. You can just as easily become addicted to natural chemical highs, like people who race cars or jump from plains and and buildings then you can to "chemical" drugs. Suprise suprise it creates a pleasureable chemical reaction in the brain.

    Effective drugs tend to mimic natural brain chemicals, having enough of a similar structure to activate receptors in the brain.

    Everything is a chemical reaction and in my mind addiction is not something to be scared of.

    It's this natural reaction which has keept us going all these years.
    It's pretty healthy to have an addiction to regularly eating and having sex, they both satisfy a chemical dependancy in the brain and both vital to the future of the human race. Look at how often men masturbate when they can't shag, it dosn't serve any purpose except for feeling good. It's an addiction to the chemical rush anything can become associated with, but is it bad? No.

    Gaming for many modern people can simulate the rush of the hunt. It's just fulfilling the other half of you that wants to vanquish. Not something every person living in this modern crazy world feel they can't do in real life. Yes it may become a chemical addiction, should we be suprised? No. is it something to worry about? No.

  19. Re:Those of you joking, it's no laughing matter. by Bob_Villa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is very serious, I agree. I have two brothers, 25 and 26, and one at least goes out to work for 8 hours a day, but spends 12 hours a day on Everquest Online. My 25 year old brother spends 20-22 hours a day on EO. He only gets off long enough to eat one meal a day and sometimes passes out for an hour or two. They always lived with my mom, and the last two years ignored her completely. When she died at the hospital I was the only one with her, they never visited her while she was there and cried a little when they found out, and then went straight back to their game.

    They are still living in the same house, somehow paying rent, but the 25 year old never leaves the house for any reason and will not get a job, and the 26 year old works and gets groceries, but that is it. I can't get them off for anything. When I come by to visit with my wife and two kids (I'm 27), they just sit down in the basement and ignore us. I finally am just leaving them alone, I visit once every couple of weeks just to see that they are still alive. It is so sad, and I can't get them to realize there is a whole world to explore outside if they would just take the time.

    They have three XBox's (sp?) in the basement, and 3 27" tvs and a dvd player, and a Nintendo DS. I was addicted to Ultima Online for about a year, so I understand a little of what they are going through, but I wish they would somehow realize they have a problem and quit.

    Sadly, I expect one day I'll come by and they'll have killed each other over some mistake one of them made in a game, or they'll just die from lack of personal care. They will scream like 5 year olds at each other for an hour if one of them makes a mistake on Everquest. I wish there was something I could do.