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IT Workers Worst Dressed Employees

Poorly Dressed Anonymous Coward wrote to mention are article run in the Syndney Morning Herald saying that IT workers have been dubbed the worst dressed corporate employees. From the article: "Help-desk staff were named as the worst offenders, followed by those working in technology start-ups, many of whom had continued to wear T-shirts to work as a consequence of the casual web culture of the '90s. 'The internet is now such a massive industry but people haven't caught up in terms of their dress'."

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  1. What ya need is... by gbulmash · · Score: 5, Funny
    What ya need is Nerd Grranimals.

    Who would be best poised to offer this? Which computer manufacturer has the best design/style sensibilities? Apple of course. Steve Jobs should put out a line of fashionable nerdwear with photos of electronic components on the interior labels.

    Each line (named after cool-sounding components like "Capacitor", "Resistor", "North Bridge") has its own signature style and contains a 3 or 4 of each type of item (pants, shoes, shirts, sweaters, coats, blazers). Any combo within the line will look good. Buy two complete lines and you have a week's worth of outfits. Capacitor shirt, capacitor pants, capacitor shoes... you're color coordinated, looking good, and it took you no time at all.

    Furthermore, they should have no complex care instructions (wash in warm, tumble dry regular), be seriously stain resistant, and be wrinkle resistant so they don't show the wrinkling effects of all-nighters. And most importantly, make them comfortable.

    - Greg

    1. Re:What ya need is... by forkazoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you have something there. Between reverse engineering embedded devices, and studying obscure languages, I just don't feel much reason to try and study fashion. If somebody sold a simple low-maintenance fasion line with a guide to how to mix and match the pieces, and a simple explanation of what was appropriate at which location, I would buy in. I do my best with fashion, but I'm told that my best isn't anything to brag about.

      If I could get office-appropriate wrinkle resistant shirts A-F, and pants 1-3, and consult a simple n-dimensional style-matching matrix on the website, I might finally get to talk to a girl.

      and, the website should have an easy to query API for style-match checking.

    2. Re:What ya need is... by Flounder · · Score: 5, Funny

      But, we're geeks. We can talk to women on the internet, and it doesn't make a difference what we wear. In fact, I've been talking with this hot 18 year old cheerleader that wants to meet me in a darkened hotel room this weekend.

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  2. What kind of tyrant ... by Empty+Yo · · Score: 5, Funny

    forces their IT folks to wear clothes. Shouldn't the fur be enough?

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    1. Re:What kind of tyrant ... by idontgno · · Score: 5, Funny
      Shouldn't the fur be enough?

      Not if you're soldering, welding, or operating high-rotational-speed power tools.

      Believe me on this one.

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  3. How strange. by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Herald seems to think that allowing workers to dress comfortably is a *bad* thing. How strange.

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    1. Re:How strange. by AuMatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, but who really gives a shit? Will dressing up make me code better than if I come in shorts (or sweats)? Will it magicly make me produce fewer bugs? No? Then I'll dress how I want- cheaply and comfortably. You don't like it? Too damn bad. I really don't give a shit.

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    2. Re:How strange. by Fizzog · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are occasionally rumours here that a senior manager might demand we start wearing a shirt and tie, rather than the biz casual we now have.

      If he tries that number with me I am going to tell him:

      'Just because you have a male clothing fetish does not mean that the rest of us should have to dress to satisfy your sexual perversions'

      Think that one will get me fired? 8)

    3. Re:How strange. by DrCode · · Score: 5, Funny

      Besides... if we male technical types dressed better, the women would be all over us, and we wouldn't get any coding done.

    4. Re:How strange. by Auckerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, but who really gives a shit? Will dressing up make me code better than if I come in shorts (or sweats)? Will it magicly make me produce fewer bugs? No? Then I'll dress how I want- cheaply and comfortably. You don't like it? Too damn bad. I really don't give a shit.

      This misses a very important point. Impressions. I'm up there with you man. I miss having purple hair, but as first boss out of college explained: "I don't care what you look like, your coworkers don't care what you look like, but some of my collabarators will care when they come to visit. I need them more than I need you."

      Even if the people you work with and around every day know you're good at your job, in the end that isn't enough. Clients, collabarators, customers, and anyone else from a different work envrioment will take your lack of due care for you appearance and apply it to the entire workplace. That's a real impact. You can wear comfortable cloths that don't look like they came out of a basement for the time your at work, and go back to your t-shirts and hole filled jeans when you get home. They pay you, not the other way around.

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  4. Eewww. by Limburgher · · Score: 5, Funny
    And if you must wear jeans and thongs in to work,

    If I wear jeans, how can anyone tell if I'm wearing a thong? :)

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  5. Don't dress too nicely by Daleks · · Score: 5, Funny

    After Christmas last year I got a bunch of nice clothes. Black leather ankle boots, cashmere & wool sweaters, dress shirts, etc. You could say I was mildly metrosexual. When I started a new job the following January I was heckled by quite a few people in the company. One woman always said, "Hey that's a nice shirt... are you gay!?" The best part is the people who were actually gay in the office felt left out because no one was noticing their dress.

  6. Translation by Psionicist · · Score: 5, Informative

    Translation: I work for a PR firm and I would really like you to buy more different clothes so my employer will get more money. Be a good consumer and buy a real shirt, not a polyester one. Then the firm will be happy, and you will perhaps get laid!

    Seriously, Paul Graham has an essay about this (sort of) here: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

    "Suits make a corporate comeback," says the New York Times. Why does this sound familiar? Maybe because the suit was also back in February, September 2004, June 2004, March 2004, September 2003, November 2002, April 2002, and February 2002.

    Why do the media keep running stories saying suits are back? Because PR firms tell them to. One of the most surprising things I discovered during my brief business career was the existence of the PR industry, lurking like a huge, quiet submarine beneath the news. Of the stories you read in traditional media that aren't about politics, crimes, or disasters, more than half probably come from PR firms.

    1. Re:Translation by sl3xd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm personally wondering how many people read TFA, and noted the choice quote:

      Ms Moss believes money should be no object when it comes to dressing well.

      Ms. Moss was the event's host. She's a "Corporate Stylist" -- corporate clothing is her business.

      News Flash! Salesdriod sees a demographic that generally doesn't wear (their) expensive clothes, tries to make those people feel ashamed that they're not spending their money on her wares. More at 11!

      They don't make clothing that works out equally well when running cable through walls, poking around above suspension ceilings, crawling under subfloors, and inside the corporate boardroom. What's next? Construction workers the most poorly dressed in the world!

      II see plenty of construction workers in offices; but nobody expects them to dress in a way that is anything but utilitarian. Guess what? Plenty of IT workers aren't doing work that is any less hard on clothing.

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  7. Bait by BrynM · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From TFA:
    Ms Moss believes money should be no object when it comes to dressing well.
    So this basically boils down to "These damn geeks don't spend like we got those 'bling' kids to". I was soooo hoping for some pictures of the most daring/oblivious of our kind. Oh well. If my company dress code says I can wear tee shirts, then I can. What the hell is so wrong with that?
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  8. Marketing departments voted "Most Metrosexual" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... while another survey concluded that marketing is the most "Ghey" or "Metrosexual" (76%) of all departments. "I don't know what it is but the way those guys in marketing call eachother "bro" all of the time and complement eachother on their shoes and accesories is a bit ... yeah" said shipping supervisor Randy Beatty.

  9. Re:Goddamn right by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's an upside and a downside.

    If you don't dress well, you won't get promoted to management.

    I forgot what the downside was.

  10. Tribal fusion by peacefinder · · Score: 5, Funny

    I walked into the local pharmacy the other week to fill a prescription. Behind the counter, next to the pharmacist, I saw a large florid-faced and bearded man wearing a polo shirt. I thought "That must be their IT guy. I bet he's wearing shorts." I stepped up to the counter and peered over. Yup. Shorts.

    He noticed my glance and I could see him size me up. He too saw a large florid-faced and bearded man wearing a knit henley and shorts. Our eyes met and I knew that he knew were were of the same tribe, shamans to the silicon spirits. We smiled an went about our business.

    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers
    For he to-day that sheds his tie with me
    Shall be my brother; be he e'er so vile

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    With reasonable men I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to tyrants I will give no quarter. -- William Lloyd
    1. Re:Tribal fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And so begins the first issue of GAY PENTHOUSE FORUM FOR GEEKS!

  11. No single women by Propaganda13 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why should I wear (and wear out) good clothes when there's no single women where I work?

  12. Re:You sound like you have a bad attitude yourself by tmortn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    /*RANT

    And where does attitude about clothing have a damn thing to do about attitude about work? When did we decide judging a book by its cover was the right way to pick? In what irrefutable experient with repeatable results has it been prooven that those who wear "Stylish" clothes vrs "unstylish" to work have better attitudes?

    What does it say about someones attitude if they are willing to buy something they don't like, that costs more than what they do and then wear it the majority of the time because its what people expect? Everyone else is doing it why don't you? Cause I am not a fucking sheeple god damn it. That isn't an attitude problem, its called free will.

    Why in the world do we seek and praise conformity ? And I don't care if it was in the form of REQUIRING eveyrone to wear jeans and a T-shirt... its a silly thing to persue in something as irrelevant as manner of dress. Dress codes are about power. The ability to decree what is and is not acceptable and its a large load of very smelly bull shit.

    What is wrong with a jeans and a T-shirt vrs not jeans and a polo shirt? What precisely is the difference there? Is Denim some horrid material not fit for public? Is the lack of a collar, two buttons and an overall thinner cotton weave a dire issue of productivity? To even have this argument is stupid. To consider it of any importance an admission of valuing shallow appearance over the substance of what the person does and how they behave. That is an improper way to judge someone and no amount of justification will change that at its heart judgement of appearence alone is shallow and idiotic. If someone has a bad attitude don't ascociate it with what they wear.

    I see a jackass in a suit and they are still a jackass. I see a king in rags and they are still a king. We all bitch about judging based on sterotypes and appearances rather than on the substance of a person. And then turn around and teach our kids you have to dress a particular way for anyone to take you seriously. Does anyone else see the utter damnfool hypocrisy in that? The truly heartbreaking thing about it all is if we just quit doing it we would no longer have to put up with it. Easier said than done obviously but damn its still annoying.

    RANT*/

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  13. Re:You want well dressed- pay well dressed wages by jonbrewer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I seriously pity anyone who considers IT to be a `career path'. It is not and I certainly don't regard that way. I am a Software Engineer currently in college, and although for the time being I am employed as a cog within an IT infrastructure, in no way or shape do I ever lose focus.

    College boy, grow the fuck up. IT is indeed a career path, and while in the corporate world I worked with hundreds of career IT folk. (That's out of 3,000 working in IT across a company I spent four years with) There's very little a large corporation in this world can do now without IT, and IT management are increasingly involved in business decisions. Get on your journal database and read some Venkatraman and stop making idiotic statements about IT on Slashdot.

    And stuff your fancy clothes while you're at it.

  14. Re:You want well dressed- pay well dressed wages by Loco3KGT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only thing in your post that you established as a point is that you have zero confidence in yourself. Almost all of my friends started out in tech support and while they may not have the most fashion sense, they atleast sport a style and don't mourn their own lives like you do.

    Maybe you should take the time to re-evaluate your position in life and your satisfaction with it.

    If you're not happy, you're not likely to be confident in yourself. And it's that right there that is more apparent to other people, especially women, than your dress style.

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