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Google Blocks Porn In Base, Patches Appliance

An anonymous reader writes "The search giant has moved to fix a problem in Google Base which didn't properly block pornographic material in their search results. According to Google, the filter was broken for 'some period of time' but the company didn't elaborate. Nathan Weinberg could have been one of the first to report the incident on his blog, Inside Google, writing: 'Holy crap, there is a lot of porn at Google Base! Looks like, just like Google Images, Google Base could become a huge source of porn, and eventually a place where porn will be sold. I even noticed some movie reviews.'" They've also recently corrected a problem with their search appliance. geo_2677 wrote to mention a Securityfocus.com article discussing the rapid patching of the Google search boxes in response to a vulnerability.

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  1. "Rapid patching" gone horribly wrong by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google may have quickly released the patch once they were notified like a good company should, but TFA reveals that the patching is far from complete:

    A small sample of 43 appliances taken this week showed that 23 remained vulnerable, 8 were patched, and the status of 12 could not be determined. If this sample is representative of all deployed Google Search Appliances, more than half may still be vulnerable.

    A patch that hasn't made it to half of the vulnerable devices? We've got a problem here. Google should have made it clear to the owners of the Search Appliance that there's a patch to install. (Fault the media while we're at it... this is the first /. mention of any patch for the Google Search Appliance.)

    You'd think Google would have built in an auto-updater, but clearly not with this low of a response rate.

    1. Re:"Rapid patching" gone horribly wrong by Threni · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > Fault the media while we're at it... this is the first /. mention of any patch for the Google
      > Search Appliance.)

      I'm Sorry? "The media" exists to make money, and I'm not sure if you're reading the business press lately but they've been doing just fine.

      If a company is relying upon another company then it's between those companies to sort out any practical problems. The media has correctly decided that the general public couldn't give a toss about whether there's a new version of software for some piece of kit or other.

      You obviously believe that the media exists to protect the public...

    2. Re:"Rapid patching" gone horribly wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      How do you know that Google didn't notify the owners that there was a patch to install? I'm sure they have some sort of mailing list and the like for them. Considering that all of their desktop software has auto-update capabilities or notifications, I doubt they would forget to include that feature on a system that people actually pay for.

      The IT folks or whoever is in charge just may not have gotten around to it, don't think the risk is there, or whatever. It's the same thing as when there's a recall that says your vehicle has a potentially dangerous flaw in it but people don't immediately go to their service center and get the work done.

      BTW, if you're a smart IT person, you would disable auto-updaters and test patches before deploying them. You have no idea how many times an auto-update breaks stuff. Breaking stuff is about the same as getting hit by a virus.

  2. new button by glaswegian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks like they may need to add a new button to their site : "I'm feeling horny"

    1. Re:new button by bloodclot+1337 · · Score: 1

      LOL good one!

  3. argh ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    must ... resist ... obvious ... zero ... wing ... pun

    can't ... speak ... at ... normal ... rate

    1. Re:argh ... by rpdillon · · Score: 1

      That was awesome! I'm surprised it took the crowd at /. that long to get to it! =)

  4. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because this is on the company level. GOOGLE is doing this - not the feds.

  5. Pr0n... by Electr!c_B4rd_Qu!nn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hate to say it, but pr0n did help Al Gore's internet get off the ground. I wonder if Bill put him up to it.....

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    1. Re:Pr0n... by Liam+Slider · · Score: 1

      I know that was meant to be funny, but...

      The "information superhighway" internet that Al Gore pushed for ARPANET to be turned into would have connected schools and libraries only, and contained only educational materials. It would still have been controlled, and tightly regulated, by the government. The true, private sector internet that we have today simply wouldn't have existed. That's a very different world. We have a much better internet than Al Gore wanted. Personally, I'm glad that today we have a vast, global information network that can be connected to be virtually anyone, with a fairly free exchange of information and ideas...although some countries try to fuck that over.

  6. ALL YOUR GOOGLE BASE by frinkacheese · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are Belong to PRON *s

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    1. Re:ALL YOUR GOOGLE BASE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Looks like, just like Google Images, Google Base could become a huge source of porn, [...]

      Seriously, what? People use Google Images to find pr0n?

      Pfff, n00bz.

  7. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by LostCluster · · Score: 1

    Google's SafeSearch can be turned off, China's Great Firewall cannot.

  8. Concerned, but delighted by saskboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm a little concerned that Al Qaida is known as "The Base" in English.

    This isn't some Google search tool to find Bin Laden is it? I've not used Base before, what does it do?

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    1. Re:Concerned, but delighted by frinkacheese · · Score: 1

      BASE is a street name for speed, see here for details: http://www.talktofrank.com/azofdrugs/S/Speed.aspx

    2. Re:Concerned, but delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I knew Al Qaeda as "The Body"

    3. Re:Concerned, but delighted by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Google Base is Google's answer to Craig's List. It's a post whatever / find whatever site that has an almost anything goes policy.

    4. Re:Concerned, but delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The name "Al Qaida" was invented by the CIA not Bin Laden

    5. Re:Concerned, but delighted by oscartheduck · · Score: 0

      Then what is the difference between posting something to google base and posting it on the web so that google can index it?

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    6. Re:Concerned, but delighted by meringuoid · · Score: 0, Troll
      The name "Al Qaida" was invented by the CIA not Bin Laden

      Sure, but the CIA gave it such wide currency that it caught on. Now it's been adopted by the terrorists themselves. I suppose it was a bit like what happened with words like 'geek' or 'otaku'.

      Amusing. Al-Qa'ida didn't exist, but now thanks to the CIA doing its PR every last eejit with a pipe-bomb claims to be affiliated to it.

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    7. Re:Concerned, but delighted by schon · · Score: 1

      I'm a little concerned that Al Qaida is known as "The Base" in English.

      Really? Known by whom? Although I know that that's what it translates to, this is the first time I've heard anyone refer to it as "The Base".

      Every time I've seen it in the (English-language) news, they refer to it as "Al Qaida", not "The Base". Hmm. a quick search of "The Base" on Google news lists no references to Al Qaida as "The Base", but a search for "Al Qaida" reveals 28000 results. This leads me to believe that Al Qaida is NOT known as "The Base" in any English-speaking countries.

      Perhaps you meant to say that "Al Qaida" translates to "The Base" in English?

    8. Re:Concerned, but delighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grammar Nazis are so CUTE!

    9. Re:Concerned, but delighted by nogginthenog · · Score: 1

      Also "The Foundation"

      Interesting article here.

  9. [offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashdot? by Idaho · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd swear there is no spyware on this machine, but I just got a popover advert when I opened this topic. It was right on top of the comments section. Strangely enough, it disappeared automatically after a few seconds (it had an area that looked like a close button which I did not click, shocked as I was to see something like this happening on slashdot. Obviously, you can never be sure what will actually happen when you click such a close button anyway...).

    I think it was some kind of DHTML thing - anyone else got this as well?

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  10. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by Saiyaman · · Score: 1

    I got the same thing. /. going down hill?

  11. I wonder... by wellybog · · Score: 0, Troll

    I wonder if the Google filters remove "All The Base Are Belong To Us" ?

  12. Rooting the Applicance by putko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Google's selling of the box may open them up to problems they wouldn't otherwise have.

    E.g. supposedly the appliance is derived from their main codebase. So if you get a box and figure out some exploits, perhaps you've figured out how to exploit the thousands of machines that Google uses to crawl.

    It is a bit like Cisco fiasco recently: they give a smart guy a box, he can find some problems (and get in trouble at Black Hat) -- but if he finds flaws he can exploit thousands of boxes out there.

    On the other hand, if Cisco didn't give you your own box to poke and prod, you might never discover the flaws in the boxes out there in the universe (before getting caught) -- it would just take too long, esp. if the bug was timing dependent. Same for Google -- the selling of the appliance, for what little money it brings in, reveals info to bad guys. A risk-averse shop might forgo that income completely.

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    1. Re:Rooting the Applicance by hagrin · · Score: 1

      It is a bit like Cisco fiasco recently: they give a smart guy a box, he can find some problems (and get in trouble at Black Hat) -- but if he finds flaws he can exploit thousands of boxes out there.

      On the surface this sounds right, but be careful.

      You basically just stated that closed source is more secure than open source in this instance and I think the *nix crowd may eat you for Thanksgiving Day dinner with that attitude. Closing the source and hiding your insecure code is not the way to secure a product. Google, who hasn't really had to worry too much about security before, is now finding themselves under the spotlight and they will have to react by placing alarger emphasis on security.

    2. Re:Rooting the Applicance by michaelhood · · Score: 1

      The only useful exploits against Googlebot (what Google crawls with), would be finding ways to exploit its ranking mechanisms to cause your results to rank higher. The problem is, there won't be a perfect disclosable way to rank pages. The reason the algorithm works as well as it does, is because people on the outside don't know precisely what it uses to score pages. There are tons of whitepapers, speculation via patents, et al. None of these can come as close to pegging its methodology as if we could just peek at the source. So, there you have it. The biggest `Net company relies on security through obscurity. And that won't change anytime soon.

  13. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Oh, when COMPANYs do it, then it's fine.
    (Where's the logic in that? For me as a user a repressive society is a repressive society. I don't care if companys, private organisations or the state take my freedoms.)

  14. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you sure it was a popover ad? There some times that I have noticed what appears to be a pop-over ad, but is really a normal sidebar ad positioned in the center while my computer/network is being slow in downloading/rendering the page. As the rest of the page came in, the ad then slides to the proper place.

    I mostly notice this on theonion, but I've seen it in lots of places. Of course, this could be a new advertising scheme... center("ad"), and at the very last of the page, they place a correctly.position("ad"), leaving the ad centered until the entire page loads.

  15. NOT blocked! by TrumpetPower! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can still get all the pr0n you want. The problem was that SafeSearch was including pr0n in the results. Some dad uploaded pictures of his two-year-old daughter to share with family. But, when he searched for those pictures, he found a hell of a lot more than he was looking for.

    Considering the society we live in, SafeSearch is a good default--after all, you wouldn't want something that could easily get you fired popping up on your monitor just for doing an innocent search. It's also good of Google to offer the simple ability to tell them not to be your nanny.

    Cheers,

    b&

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    1. Re:NOT blocked! by spejsklark · · Score: 1

      Some dad uploaded pictures of his two-year-old daughter to share with family. But, when he searched for those pictures, he found a hell of a lot more than he was looking for.

      Blame Google when he searches for Jasmine!

    2. Re:NOT blocked! by shudde · · Score: 1

      It's also good of Google to offer the simple ability to tell them not to be your nanny.

      Compared to Googles' image search it's not quite as simple for the cookie-blockers amongst us. Instead of allowing a single cookie at a precise address 'images.google.com.au' (in my case), using Google Base without the filter requires you to allow 'google.com' and all the cookies that entails.

      I am aware that I'm somewhat of a paranoid freak.

    3. Re:NOT blocked! by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      It's more than that.

      Got onto base.google.porn

      Type 'porn'.

      Oggle.

      I an *not* logged into google, so safe search is presumably on.

    4. Re:NOT blocked! by daliman · · Score: 1

      What society are you referring to? It would be hard work for a company to fire me for accidentally viewing porn in the society I live in - New Zealand.

    5. Re:NOT blocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Got onto base.google.porn

      Nice freudian slip there ;-)

    6. Re:NOT blocked! by GoatPigSheep · · Score: 1

      I believe he is speaking of the American Christian Theocracy.

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  16. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

    That wasn't a bug! It was a feature. The best one!

  17. Is there a site... by SharpFang · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...that uses Google Images API with the SafeSearch in "reverse" mode, that is performs search twice, with SS on and off, and displays only images that would are filtered off by SS?

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    1. Re:Is there a site... by Von+Helmet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This search page will search for unsafe pages using that method, though I have yet to find^H^H^H^H hear of one that will do the same for images.

    2. Re:Is there a site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi-la-ri-ous. Try searching for "spiders". For some reason greekspider.com/ is considered unsafe.

    3. Re:Is there a site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What did you hope to find?
      Pr0n-movies where people eat eachother after doing it?
      Eww.

    4. Re:Is there a site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insect bestiality. Spiders in vagina.

  18. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by clifyt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I get the same...and I'm on a Mac using firefox -- so I highly doubt if its adware.

    I saw this first last week asking me to take an OSTG survey at work -- and I thought I had my pop-up blocker off. Nope. And my flash block was off as well -- so it couldn't be that hole either. I wasn't too upset because I thought it was specifically for /. and its parent company...and then a few days later, the same thing with a non OSTG advertisement.

    Slashdot it going downhill and thats sad (then again, I know people on my site are complaining that I've had to monotize it to keep it running...but popups / popunders and annoying DHTML are something no reputable site should ever use). If this is the future of this site, Digg and others will get my reading (and I'll make certain to never buy another overpriced gizmo or tshirt from Thinkgeek).

  19. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

    My computer at home is kind of slow, as well as my internet connection. If I scroll while the page is loading, I can almost always make ads appear in the middle of the comments, although not on top of the stuff, usually in line with the text. It looks a little weird, Not sure if its a slashdot bug or a firefox bug.

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  20. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I think it is because Slashdot is (finally) compliant with a recent version of HTML / CSS / etc. The new version renders in a different fashion. On the main page, the sidebars load last, the centre gets squished suddenly at the end.

    On comment pages, the comments are last to load, and the sidebar ad is centred until the width of the comments are established (or something) and then it all looks right.

  21. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Oh, when COMPANYs do it, then it's fine.

    Sure. You are free to use a different company. Using a different government is not always possible.

  22. In other news... by SolitaryMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Number of requests to Google Base vastly dropped.

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  23. What a surprise! by Snamh+Da+Ean · · Score: 5, Funny

    Researchers find that a huge well designed freely accessible online database is used to store pr0n.

    In other news, scientists announce that snow is cold, and that bears defecate in the wooded environments.

    1. Re:What a surprise! by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      bears defecate in wooded environments.

      That's not news. The news that surprises most people is that the bears use rabbits to wipe their asses.

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  24. new button-Wikiporn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google-Base is now the Wikipedia of porn.

  25. "willing to take a survey?" ? by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 1

    Got the same thing twice today... If that shit persists into, say, next week, I think I should make heise.de my new "Home"...

  26. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by chez69 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    use adblock or squid to block the following items:

    *images.slashdot.org/*.js
    *images-aud.slashdot.org*
    *an.tacoda.net*
    *falkag*

    lots of funcky js gets loaded by slash by default. I block all this shit and slashdot loads twice as fast.

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  27. Blocks what? by loconet · · Score: 3, Funny

    Google Blocks Porn ... so much for for Do no evil.

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  28. Holy crap! by panth0r · · Score: 0, Redundant

    *Zips up* Holy crap! There is a lot of porn in Google base!

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  29. Beacuse its not censorship? by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is corporate entity who isnt a monopoly, so it well within their rights to do this.

    Once you talk about government censoring free speech ( its debateable if porn falls under that category in the first place ) then we an issue to discuss.

    However, even with your example, China is an sovereign country. It has a right to declare a type of questionable speech illegal if they wish, as long as it doesnt deprive people of basic human rights in the process.

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    1. Re:Beacuse its not censorship? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I must say I'm happy about this one. I am so tired of "O///G Phr33 Pr0nzorz" as a result from searches that have absoulutely nothing to do with anything even resembling that.

    2. Re:Beacuse its not censorship? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, even with your example, China is an sovereign country. It has a right to declare a type of questionable speech illegal if they wish, as long as it doesnt deprive people of basic human rights in the process.

      Wrong twice over.

      First, China is a sovereign country. This means they can do whatever the heck they want, including trampling all over whatever human rights they want, until some other country or group of countries can convince or force them to stop.

      Second, some of us believe that free speech goes beyond simply, "you can criticize the government", and that declaring questionable speech to be illegal is already a violation of human rights.

    3. Re:Beacuse its not censorship? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      That is splitting hairs, of course anyone can do something illegal/wrong until they get caught. I'm speaking of "right and wrong" when i say they cant.

      And i do agree that free speech extends beyond the basics of criticizing government, but there are limits to what is 'protected speech'. I happen to think porn does not qualify. Porn is a product, not a 'speech'. ( not saying it should be banned or not, just that it shouldnt be protected under the concept of free speech )

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  30. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by Idaho · · Score: 1

    I saw this first last week asking me to take an OSTG survey at work -- and I thought I had my pop-up blocker off. Nope. And my flash block was off as well -- so it couldn't be that hole either. I wasn't too upset because I thought it was specifically for /. and its parent company...and then a few days later, the same thing with a non OSTG advertisement.

    So it's not just me. Argh!!! Well, message to the editors: one 100% foolproof way to make sure that I will *never* take some OSTG survey, is to shove it in my face like that. I know that such things slip by sometimes (the advertiser puts it in without asking the website admins first), so I'd highly recommend you turn it off ASAP because such behaviour on a site like /. is absolutely unacceptable to me. And frankly, I highly doubt I'm the only one who is really annoyed by this.

    Yes I know I could get a subscription, and I also am fully aware that it is in your right to do this. Afterall running this site is not exactly free. Still, chasing away potential customers by annoying the hell out of them doesn't seem like such a good way of doing bussiness to me. It's one of the reasons I barely watch TV anymore. Also, Sony can definitely forget about seeing any bussiness for me since their incredible r00tk1t fiasco - same reason basically, don't annoy your (potential) customers.

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  31. You mean ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn. I was wondering how to penetrate my T|X. Oh well :(

  32. Bugs expected by Scotteh · · Score: 0, Redundant

    With new programming comes new bugs. It takes a long time to completely eradicate bugs.

  33. Of course. by nathan+s · · Score: 4, Funny

    Point it out AFTER it's fixed. Thanks, guys! :-P

  34. Re:Try meeting people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe he is a burn victim or a double amputee who has trouble finding women because of his condition? Ever think of that? Huh!? You insensitive jerk!

  35. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is trivial to get past the Great Firewall. A Google search for 'free web proxy' is all it takes; there are working ones on the first page of results.

  36. It's not clear at all by artifex2004 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You'd think Google would have built in an auto-updater, but clearly not with this low of a response rate.


    Regarding the sample boxes they couldn't determine the status for, they may be firewalled by companies who don't want to risk unforseen vulnerabilities. Regarding the ones that are accessible but not patched, is it possible the owners are also blocking updates? If you have a dedicated search appliance in a situation where you can't really afford it going down for an unknown period of time, would you risk patching until you'd heard from others that the patch didn't introduce any new instabilities? Especially since it's a black (or blue) box, so a hard crash might mean having to send it back?

    Win2000 and WinXP have autoupdaters, also. Many of them are not completely patched, either. The users have either never enabled, or disabled, that feature. The administrative interface on Google appliances could allow that level of control, also.
  37. With a name like that by Riktov · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From TFA:

    "Todd Ripley, a real estate investor in Asheville, North Carolina, noticed the problem on Tuesday morning after he uploaded photos of his 2-year-old daughter Jasmine onto his Google Base page. He planned to direct his family to the page but decided against it after a search for "Jasmine" turned up some unsavoury results despite the use of the SafeSearch filter."

    If he'd just named his daughter Phyllis, or Martha, or Gertrude...

    And why did he need to search for "Jasmine" to tell his family where to find photos? Couldn't he just use a URL? And did he think that there was any chance that a search for "Jasmine" would actually find his daughter's photos from the mounds of other info out there???

    1. Re:With a name like that by stud9920 · · Score: 2, Funny
      If he'd just named his daughter Phyllis
      Google search would return pictures of genital warts.
    2. Re:With a name like that by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Maybe he just wanted to see how high in the rankings it was?

    3. Re:With a name like that by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      I just turned off all filtering and searched for Jasmine. His images were on page 3[1], but none of the other results looked pornographic (I only checked up until page 5).

      [1] Probably more amusing in the UK, where cheap tabloids traditionally put a nude model on page 3.

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    4. Re:With a name like that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's interesting is that even searching for "Jasmine" with SafeSearch off doesn't turn up anything I would consider pornographic.

    5. Re:With a name like that by patio11 · · Score: 1
      For a technologically unsophisticated user the Google "I'm feeling lucky" button *IS* the URL. Heck, I practically grew up with the Internet (cost my family a $100 Compuserve bill back in middle school and haven't looked back since) and I use Google as a substitute location bar myself -- why bookmark or remember the obscure URL for the best Japanese dictionary ever when "Jim Breen" tab tab enter gets me unfailingly to the right page?

      A year ago I made my mother and father's start page Google. Now, instead of having to diagnose the "http colon slash slash, no no, the slash that goes from top right to bottom left, dubya dubya dubya, yes mom, three of them..." problems over the phone all the time, its "Mom, I have some new photos up on my web page. Its in the usual place, Google me. See, isn't that a wonderful shot of the mountains?"

  38. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by elkyle · · Score: 1

    Or do the old-fashioned way, and toss them in your hosts file, and map to 0.0.0.0 - a "valid" ip that errors out instantly. I have several thousand lines in my hosts file that blocks various ad sites and whatnot. Just google for "hosts file" or something like that, and there are many prefab hosts files to download or copy and paste into your own.

  39. Re:"Rapid patching" still needs more patches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google may have quickly released the patch once they were notified like a good company should, but TFA reveals that the patching is far from complete:

    Yep, the search still needs more fixing a search for the word webcam on all three filtering settings returns the exact same number of results. Unless Google specifically removed all pr0n links from the Base site (which I would still doubt), they do indeed have more patching to do.

  40. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You are free to use a different company

    The problem is that google has such a monopoly that they can dictate what websites succeed and which fail. That is to much power for a single corporation as far as I'm concerned. Just go to http://www.google-watch.org/ and read some of the stuff there. It would be just as meaningless.

    Geeks seem to be all to eager to suck googles dick. Google executives appear on the cover of magazines wearing Armani suits with Converse shoes and naive geeks are all "OMG! Those guys are so hip and cool!" Then google says "Our only philosophy is do no evil" and everyone is all "OMG! Those guys are so hip and cool!" Bill Gates could show up in a suit and sneakers and say "do no evil" and it would mean just as much as when google does it.

    Google just gets bigger and more powerful. One day their leadership will change and the new execs might have a different direction for the company that really ends up fucking us all over. But we are just putting them in a position that will allow them to do that because geeks are so easily swayed by stupid shallow bullshit. Google is there to make money it is as simple as that. If you believe otherwise you need to grow up and look around you.

  41. Google's recent security problems by __aaijsn7246 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seems that more and more security researchers are turning their attention to Google these days. There has been a spate of recent bugs published to the usual mailing lists in past weeks.

    Title: Google Talk Denial of Service - BenjiBug
    Google Talk's automatic update mechanism (which can't be turned off) checks to see if the downloaded file matches a signature, but it doesn't check the size of the file. So it can be forced to compute a hash of a 1 gig file, crashing the machine.

    Killer Empty Sender Message
    echo kill | nail -s Kill -r "" victim (at) gmail (dot) com [email concealed]
    crashes Google Talk

    Google Talk cleartext proxy credentials vulnerability
    Google Talk stores the GMail login details securely, but not the proxy authentication credentials

    Not to mention the GMail bug discussed on /. recently

    Ah, the perpetual beta..

    1. Re:Google's recent security problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That BenjiBug one is just fluff.

    2. Re:Google's recent security problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You evidently dont know a great deal about the bug or situation.

      If the hash could be created any file could be ran on the target system / systems.

      So get a clue before posting again, idiot.

    3. Re:Google's recent security problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is about time the perfect world of Google was rocked. There are no other search engines out there that can even start to encroach on Google's strength in the search world.

      Yahoo is a bit rubbish, msn is just god damn awful!

      Google is full of elites, it is time to prove why they are the elites of the world.

  42. A "Dying" Model. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Yes I know I could get a subscription, and I also am fully aware that it is in your right to do this. Afterall running this site is not exactly free. Still, chasing away potential customers by annoying the hell out of them doesn't seem like such a good way of doing bussiness to me."

    Of course. The preferred business method is the "Street performer with cancer" business model. That would be were the audiance gets free entertainment, occasionally throws some coins that don't cover mounting costs, and ridicules the performer when they hear the performers tale of woe.

    Of course from the standpoint of an audiance, short-term this is much better than the "reciprocal exchange" model that someone patented centuries ago. You know the one were a web-site offers content that one wants and the audiance gives them money. Unfortunately if one doesn't like the terms (like offering money, watching ads, etc), then the "marketing made me..." impulse kicks in and one resorts to technical means like "bugmenot", or P2P to get it on "street performer with cancer" terms.

  43. Re:Try meeting people by Douglas+Simmons · · Score: 1

    It's you insensitive clod , you insensitive clod!

  44. Inside Google..... by segedunum · · Score: 1

    ...literally.

  45. Also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The search giant has moved to fix a problem in Google Base which didn't properly block pornographic material in their search results."

    A Google spokesperson also issued the statement,

    "All your porn are belong to us"

  46. Poor Kids by PokerAndroid · · Score: 1

    Thats a shame. Where are the kids supposed to learn about these things?

    1. Re:Poor Kids by baadger · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Poor Kids by PokerAndroid · · Score: 1

      Thanks. Didn't know that existed.

  47. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 1

    Bill Gates could show up in a suit and sneakers and say "do no evil" and it would mean just as much as when google does it

    Maybe because, unlike MS, google actually doesn't try to screw OSS over.

  48. Re:gna4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please use a propper goatse mirror when trolling Slashdot. The next time I talk to someone from the GNAA, I'll have to tell them that your guys are losing your touch. :(

  49. Hey Porn Sites, Quit You're Whining! by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 1, Informative

    The porn sites should be fortunate enough that they can be found through regular Google Search. If anything, Google needs to crack down on the bogus porn and spam sites that add keywords to their meta tags and webpages to sneek in search results. These doctored results are starting to effect the performance and accuracy of the Google Search.

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  50. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    So you let a companys stance on OSS dictate to you whether that company is good or bad? That is the kind of shallowness that the geek community seems to display all to often. "They use Python a lot so they must be cool!"

    To further confuse the issue. Here is the list of the major charitable contributions made by Microsoft (or is it Micro$oft, hurrr!!) as of 2000.


    • $1 billion over 20 years to establish the Gates Millennium Scholarship
      Program, which will support promising minority students through college
      and some kinds of graduate school.

    • $750 million over five years to the Global Alliance for Vaccines
      and Immunization, which includes the World Health Organization, the Rockefeller
      Foundation, Unicef, pharmaceutical companies and the World Bank.

    • $350 million over three years to teachers, administrators, school
      districts and schools to improve Americas K-12 education, starting in
      Washington State.

    • $200 million to the Gates Library Program, which is wiring public
      libraries in Americas poorest communities in an effort to close the digital
      divide.

    • $100 million to the Gates Childrens Vaccine Program, which will
      accelerate delivery of lifesaving vaccines to children in the poorest countries
      of the world.

    • $50 million to the Maternal Mortality Reduction Program, run by the
      Columbia University School of Public Health.

    • $50 million to the Malaria Vaccine Initiative, to conduct research
      on promising candidates for a malaria vaccine.

    • $50 million to an international group called the Alliance for the
      Prevention of Cervical Cancer.

    • $50 million to a fund for global polio eradication, led by the World
      Health Organization, Unicef, Rotary International and the U.N. Foundation.

    • $40 million to the International Vaccine Institute, a research program
      based in Seoul, South Korea.

    • $28 million to Unicef for the elimination of maternal and neonatal
      tetanus.

    • $25 million to the Sequella Global Tuberculosis Foundation.

    • $25 million to the International AIDS Vaccine Initiative, which is
      creating coalitions of research scientists, pharmaceutical companies and
      governments in developing countries to look for a safe, effective, widely
      accessible vaccine against AIDS.


    How much have the millionares at google given to charity? Yet Microsoft is still this horrible company because they don't support OSS and google are the saviours of the world because some of their dev's use Python. I am not saying Microsoft is good. I am just saying that supporting or not supporting OSS is not the only thing that you should be looking at.

  51. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by chez69 · · Score: 1

    using adblock and squid let you use regex expressions. some sites serve ads from the same servers as the content.

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  52. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why the hell are you blocking my site ParsifalKagoshima.com?

  53. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by NickFitz · · Score: 1

    Ever tried that from behind the Great Firewall?

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  54. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by chez69 · · Score: 1

    I didn't say it was perfect =-)

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  55. Illegal by CriminalNerd · · Score: 1

    I thought Base's set of rules indicated that one cannot post only ILLEGAL or non-consexual pr0n as I have mentioned here.

    1. Re:Illegal by issachar · · Score: 1

      sure... but they still provide a filter to filter out the legal porn for those who'd rather not have it show up in their searches.

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  56. Not Fair by TeacherOfHeroes · · Score: 1

    Holy crap, there is a lot of porn at Google Base! Looks like, just like Google Images, Google Base could become a huge source of porn, and eventually a place where porn will be sold.

    What? no link?

  57. You broke it, you bought it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "black (or blue) box, so a hard crash might mean having to send it back?"

    That depends on the design.*

    One can have either a roll-back, or switch-over to a known configuration.

    Two one can have a remote-login from Google HQ to fix whatever's needed.

    The only reason to send something back is if the hardware is physically broken.

    *Remember these basically are custom computers. Not DELL generic, stick any handy OS on, cross your fingers and pray, computers you put together from left-over parts.

  58. Riiiight by carguy84 · · Score: 1

    He was posting pictures of his kid when he came across this pr0n...at least, that's what he told his wife when she walked in the room...

  59. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by jr87 · · Score: 1

    they only took it off the safesearch results I have no problem with that still some evades safesearch but hey, you filter it all.

  60. Renunciation of Citizenship by TubeSteak · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship by Persons Claiming a Right of Residence in the U.S.

    http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenshi p_777.html

    Anything is possible, just not always probable.

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  61. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by ZSO · · Score: 1

    Google owns its servers - it's called the "right to property." It can block porn from them if it wants to. When the GOVERNMENT censors, it tells OTHER people what to do with their own property. In one case, property rights are respected; in the other case, they're violated.

    That's the difference.

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  62. The old one is better... by namespan · · Score: 1

    Personally, I'd rather just get lucky.

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  63. ALL YOUR PR0N ARE BELONG TO BASE by slyborg · · Score: 1

    Google Base, that is ;-)

  64. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by phoenix321 · · Score: 1

    Yep, that's the old-fashioned way. It works, but not as easy or fast as adblock. One right click, two keystrokes and then "OK" is all it takes to clean noisy websites. Especially if banner ads or other annoying stuff are served from the same IP adress as the real content. Websites that feature ugly animated GIFs, frames, blinking flash and whatever embeds are stopped cold. Might be called the three-clicks-out policy.

    Free porn websites are a breeze with this, to be honest. Collect all destination hostnames from a popular TGP and block every URL with these hostnames ending in *.gif, *.js and *.swf and enjoy faster load times, less clutter, no stupid framings and no blinkenlights. Everything containing your most hated niche keywoard and ending in *.jpg blocked is also a great plus while seeking some solo amusement. Use "Linky" to open up the entire TGP in tabs at once and Adblock to filter out banner crap and unwanted niches is a good measure when availiable bandwidth is not the top priority. No more t-girls, studs, scat and MILFs or whatever may NOT float your boat.

    So: Adblock is a superior approach when it comes to blocking unwanted HTTP content. Pre-emptively freezing unwanted download and spyware sources, the RealMedia main server maybe or whatever server IP your favorite phone-home shareware shouldn't find is best placed in the hostfile.

  65. school by Lil-Bondy · · Score: 0

    my school blocked google images for this reason, and its a very useful resource, is there a way to only be able to use it on strict filtering mode? (even then you can sometimes find stuff :( )

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  66. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by Deviant+Q · · Score: 2, Funny

    Man, at times like this I wish there was an "+1 Awesome" moderation option ;).

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  67. Meanwhile, back at Google HQ by Eponymous+Powder · · Score: 1

    Ahgh! Someone set us up the pr0n!

  68. very effective filter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  69. Re:[offtopic] What the ..... popover ads on Slashd by TCM · · Score: 1

    I browse Slashdot with Javascript turned off since there's no need to turn it on here. Nice, old-fashioned passive/static "content" (I hate that word) only please.

    Oh and BTW, thank you, http://www.noscript.net/

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  70. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The phrase is "Do no evil". Not "do some good" or even "do more good than evil".

    Look at it agin. "Do no evil". It doesn't say anything about doing good, so charities are irrelevant. It's only about evil. The other important word is "no" in this case meaning "zero". Not "less". Qualifying for that is too late for Microsoft, no matter how much good they do, the evil they have already done will never become undone (not until the invention of a time machine anyway).

    Microsoft has done evil against OSS. They have done evil against their own customers (bundling IE, bundling Mediaplayer, Clippy). They have done evil against people who didn't want to be their customers (per CPU licensing, aka. Microsoft tax).

  71. Re:And where is the problem with porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am the grandparent poster, and the answer is yes. I've been living in Beijing for about 18 months now, and I've found that internet censorship here is extremely over-estimated by people outside China. As well as the aforementioned proxies, the majority of foreign news sites are still available (it's only the highest profile ones like the BBC that are blocked; even The Times is still allowed).

    The situation is a little different for Chinese-language sites, but it's still pretty easy to find independent news sources. People say it's harder if you're looking for sites about Taiwan independence or the FLG cult, but even those aren't too hard to find if you look in the right places (or use a proxy as I said in my previous post).

    And no, I'm not in some posh hotel or special accomodation for foreigners; I'm using a normal residential connection in an apartment block where I'm the only non-Chinese.