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U.K. Says Botnets Good Sign

An anonymous reader writes "A UK government official has claimed that botnet infections should be celebrated, as they prove that Britain is a prosperous place with high broadband take-up. Is this an interesting new spin on hacking attacks, or sheer madness?" From the article: "The suggestion that botnet infections have their positive side sparked some surprise within the audience. One attendee pointed out that he 'wouldn't want the value of being number one in infections to be extended to bird flu'."

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  1. Don't worry about me! by Winckle · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a UK citizen and windows user, I help out by.. --NO CARRIER-- Buy v1agr4 n0w!1 p1ll5 4 ch34p!

  2. yawn by shudde · · Score: 2, Funny

    Politician says something moronic about the internet... I'm shocked and horrified.

  3. we should be glad car stereos are stolen by Fox_1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it shows the healthy consumption of motor vehicles by our populace, a sign of a prosperous and strong economy. Putting regulations in place to require cars to have locking doors might slow the distribution and growth of cars.

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    1. Re:we should be glad car stereos are stolen by timeOday · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Thought experiment: somebody gives you a piece of paper with a list of numbers (and nothing else). The numbers are car stereo theft rates. You have to pick a number, and move to the country with that theft rate.

      Would you pick a high number, a low number, or something in between?

    2. Re:we should be glad car stereos are stolen by pjt33 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A rate requires a numerator and a denominator. You've given the numerator: (number of) car stereo thefts. What's the denominator? Population? Number of cars? Number of car stereos?

    3. Re:we should be glad car stereos are stolen by mikael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      According to this article, Britain also has the highest Cocaine consumption rate. Perhaps, we should take this to be a good sign of prosperity and open borders?

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  4. That's like... by oopsdude · · Score: 5, Funny

    saying that herpes is good thing, because at least you're getting some ass!

    1. Re:That's like... by drivinghighway61 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Many a Slashdot user dreams of the day he contracts herpes...

  5. Erm by LSD-OBS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course, it's not even necessarily an indicator of rapid broadband takeup. It just means too many of the users are pathetically unsavvy and that the government isn't creating enough of an awareness about this sort of security issue.

    Living in the UK myself, I can tell you that I still know lots of people who don't have broadband, and many of those that do are so uninformed that I don't go near their computers for fear of punching them in frustration.

    What the heck is that government official smoking?

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    1. Re:Erm by jacksonj04 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I second that motion. I wish I had a penny for every time I have been trying to explain why Automatic Updates is a good thing, and why you should leave the firewall turned on by default.

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    2. Re:Erm by KanSer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Isn't it just proof the UK has some of the least-informed and competent computer using populations in the world?

      Getting pwned is never a good thing, no matter what spin machine processes the data.

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  6. Note to self: by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny
    Whilst at friends and family's houses over the holidays, be sure to just reinstall Windows from the CD without bothering to go through update hell. Will save lots of time and I'll be doing a service to society!

    Thanks to Bill & Company for creating new metrics to measure civilization's progress.

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  7. Wow by 4D6963 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn, weird reaction, maybe one day we'll see Mac OS XII computers get infected with lots of viruses and Apple will be just glad "Now we're so big that we can directly compete on the attacks and virus with Microsoft's Windows"

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  8. This idiot should be sacked immediately. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nigel Hickson, head of European e-commerce and telecoms regulation at the DTI,

    This idiot should be sacked immediately. Someone with such a powerful position should not be so ignorant. Given that he is so ignorant he should be removed from his position immediately.

  9. Freedom by drivinghighway61 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While I can see where the official is coming from, there's another thing to look at. The massive presence of botnets also shows the dominance of Microsoft in the field. Perhaps the officials should point out that the botnets could be reduced or eliminated by changing to alternatives such as Linux or BSD. Heck, even OS X would be better than Windows from a security point-of-view. So while it is indeed a great thing to celebrate that the UK has such broadband penetration, we need to remember that the market is dominated by the OS which allows botnets to begin with.

  10. Madness! by isecore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this an interesting new spin on hacking attacks, or sheer madness?

    It's sheer madness. There's NOTHING positive about botnets. Hello??

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    1. Re:Madness! by arivanov · · Score: 2, Informative

      Neither.

      It is a "Bliar Cronie Droid" serial number Pinokio653 speaking. They will more likely die then present you with negative news. Everything has to be spun up, presented positively and be used in an advertisement of some government policy.

      People keep comparing Bliar's UK with 1984. Wrong comparison. The right comparison should be "This Perfect Day".

      Going full steam ahead for it.

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  11. Nigeria: #1 in IT by spejsklark · · Score: 5, Funny

    And all those e-mails coming from Nigeria. They must have a really highly developed IT infrastructure.

  12. Nice spin, slashdot. by gowen · · Score: 5, Informative

    How did "sees silver lining in botnet cloud" become "Botnets a Good Sign".
    The official quite clearly said "I'm not saying bots are a good thing".

    Still, at least it wasn't a dupe.

    Similarly, if a NIH official pointed out that "The rise of obesity in the West is better than malnutrition", that wouldn't be a endorsement of obesity, merely a reasonable nuanced assessment of facts.

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    1. Re:Nice spin, slashdot. by et764 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Still, at least it wasn't a dupe.
      Yet.
  13. bad != good by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Saying "people are maliciously exploiting our technology is great because it means we have technology!! is not addiquate logic unless just having technology was your only goal."

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  14. In Other News... by GearheadX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Said governemnt official has apparently been replaced by a short shell script...

  15. "wouldn't want the value of being number one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...in bird flu"? Why, it shows you are a hub for both migratory birds and a popular tourist destination for those from the Far East.

    Next up, how malaria shows you have abundant surface water.

  16. Re:By the same token... by WilliamSChips · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sorry, evolution will be banned in America, we'd have to be "Intelligently Redesigned".

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  17. "antivirus" to blame by osssmkatz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In truth, most PC users are happy to install antivirus software, sales people will push it on people..

    The problem is that most of these people who install antivirus software (esp. Norton and Mcafee.. the top vendors pushed by sales reps.) have an unpleasant experience. It slows down their computer, it fails to protect them from {{trojan:general}}, and many consumers feel like they are being scammed.

    There is another problem too.. people feel that "antivirus" software should be enough. These are the people who buy antivirus software at "bargain prices" that doesn't include a firewall (which is probably good because it would drive them nuts.) or spyware protection.

    These security systems are indeed scams. Norton Internet Security 2006 is practically an advertisement for their Systemworks package. The web browsing security is rated as "limited coverage" because it doesn't include parental controls. Instead of blocking ActiveX using a white list, they use a blacklist. Only minor vendors like Panda actually ensure your Windows Updates are applied. People feel ripped off when the trialware that ships with most PCs wears off.

    The security software vendors, the retailers, and the computer manufacturers can all do better. The government needs to rate security software, and comission studies to find out why people aren't applying them.

    Cybersecurity is something they can actually do something about.. combatting terrorism (especially to our allies) is a much more vague proposition.

  18. many of the ISPs are also unsavvy by CdBee · · Score: 3, Informative

    the major UK broadband providers, NTL/Telewest (Cable) and Wanadoo, BT, Tiscali, etc (Asynchronous DSL) provide ethernet or USB modems rather than proper routers, meaning unpatched PCs tend to be taken over by RPC infections relatively quickly.

    Also, because of the purchasing price disparity between the UK and the USA (a US$399 PC might cost UK£399 here), system builders tend to skimp on the additional software provision, as on a spec sheet, throwing in a copy of MS Works often looks better than a decent software firewall. 30-day trial AV subscriptions are also disappointingly frequent

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    1. Re:many of the ISPs are also unsavvy by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Routers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway. Of course, I don't know how much it costs them to provide the modems, but I suspect that a router with a built in modem costs more than the modem on it's own.
      Also consider the fact that cable modems (as opposed to ADSL ones) aren't found built into routers (at least, I've never seen one), if the cable providers started providing them instead of the basic modems they'd have to start giving out a considerably more complex piece of kit and wouldn't be able to get off-the-shelf ones. That would seem to me to be an expensive solution compared to the driver CD having Zonealarm, Spyboy, AD-Aware and AVG free edition on it and it taking care of the installations itself (rather than: 'there's some good software on here, go install it yourself if you can be bothered/are technically competent enough to do it').

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    2. Re:many of the ISPs are also unsavvy by CdBee · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can't rely on software to close ports. It's inherently unsafe especially when there are programmatic interfaces to the firewall, as in Windows FW and Zonealarm.

      ISPs in other countries often distribute routers (Speedtouch 510/530 is reliable and a common choice outside the UK) - and remember more UK broadband is provided by DSL than Cable anyway. (Linksys do make a cable modem-router integrated unit, but I accept the point in that they aren't common.)

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  19. OT, but reminds me of.... by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 4, Funny

    Saying anal sex is good because it works on both sexes is like saying Java is good because it works on all OSs.

  20. In Other News........ by Dimble+ThriceFoon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Swaziland celebrates achieving a 64% HIV infection rate as evidence of the virility of their menfolk.

  21. Re:Labour Vs Lib Dems by UpnAtom · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Former MP Richard Allan is a hero of the No2ID resistance movement.

    Back in February, when few had a clue that our totalitarian Government was plotting the creation of a database on citizens 20x more intrusive than anything else on the planet, Richard was busy trying to explain it to any MP who would listen.

    He was also one of the few who understood the 'Nazi Enablement Act' which granted our Government unlimited power under the law.

    And he questioned the Government on who DID actually seize Indymedia servers.