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Ubuntu: Best Linux Desktop for Business?

sebFlyte writes "ZDNet has been testing Linux for business, trying to work out what the best distro is for small businesses. After testing Mandriva Linux 2006, Novell Linux Desktop 9, Red Hat Desktop 4, SUSE Linux 10 and Ubuntu Linux 5.1. After installing them all from scratch to simulate a new business set up, and extensive testing involving Gaim, Evolution, OpenOffice.org -- as well as actually writing each review on each distro -- Ubuntu came out as the winner. They summed it up saying 'Ubuntu is a well integrated, practical and absolutely free' and dismissed worries about support. SuSE came a close second."

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  1. Ubuntu Year.Month by my_breath_smells · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually its Ubuntu 5.10, not 5.1

    Ubuntu X.Y corresponds to the release year (200X) and the release month(Y).
    In this case it was October 2005 -> (10/05)
    The next release will be Ubuntu 6.4 (April 2006))

  2. Quite an extensive review by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 4, Funny

    They really explained all good and bad points of the distros they tested.
    After reading the article I think my intelligence actually dropped.

    1. Re:Quite an extensive review by MighMoS · · Score: 4, Funny

      *shrugs* Its thanksgiving, and a low news-volume day (at least here in the US where we celebrate our ansestors taking a break from killing all the natives)

  3. Great by thesnarky1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And studies have found "best distro" studies to be the leading cause of flame wars on slashdot. Let the flames fly!

  4. Re:SuSE 10 by tpgp · · Score: 4, Informative

    So where does the non-free part come in?

    Why do you say that? The review says "SUSE Linux is available as a free unsupported download,"

    That said, I don't believe Suse has any guarantees about prices of future products - whereas Ubuntu says on their front page:

    "Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms."

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  5. We love Ubuntu by dskoll · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here at Roaring Penguin, we've pretty much standardized on Debian for the technical staff and Ubuntu for the non-technical staff. It works very well for us.

    We do have one holdout on Slackware, but that's fine with me as long as he administers his own box...

  6. Very low quality review by Freggy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read the review of Mandriva 2006.0, and I have to conclude the review is of a really very low quality. Firstly, they are complaining about the lack of a tool to configure network printers. Was it that difficult to find the add printer item in the Mandriva Control Center, and check the two checkboxes for auto-detection of networked and Windows printers?

    They say that partitioning was difficult. Actually, first you have the choice to do everything automatically, choosing "use entire hard disk" or "use free space on Windows partition". Instead, they chose Custom partitioning, where again there is a button "Auto Allocate", which do everythinhg automatically once you resized the windows partitions. Now if they call this difficult, they should not have chosen the customized partitioning scheme in the first place. Actually I have heard of users having a lot more difficulties with the SuSE or Ubuntu partitioners.

    They say the Exchange connector for Evolution was not there. Did they actually bothered looking for it during half a minute? Then at least they would have found the package evolution-exchange!

    The real weak points of Mandriva 2006.0 are not talked about on the other hand. Not a word about the instabilities caused by the buggy beta X.org 6.9 included, by kat which makes kded eat all CPU time sometimes, and nothing about the old version of OpenOffice.org 1.1.5 which is included, and which is buggy (it crashes on SXI files it has created itself).

    Really, nothing to see here, move on people!

  7. "only one crash"... by Yath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's funny how different perspectives can make communication difficult. For example, take this casual comment from the article:

    During the whole exercise, we only experienced one system crash...

    To a Linux user, the idea of "only one crash" is bemusing. A modern Linux system, going down so easily? That's very serious. Surely the author isn't familiar with the territory.

    Later, it becomes clearer, when the Mandriva review states:

    ...an accidental combination of keystrokes -- experimenting around Ctrl-Alt-E to try and get a euro symbol -- crashed the system and dumped us at a $-prompt command line, with no obvious route back to our unsaved work.

    Obviously, this is not what a Linux user would call a "system crash". I suppose it's just as well that Windows users would be asked to review Linux distros for the desktop, though. A Linux user might regard this as a minor problem, forgetting that to most people, this is indeed a show-stopper.

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  8. Re:One little additional remark by hungrygrue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That is one thing that has amazed me about Ubuntu, actually. I have run *MANY* distros over the last 10+ years, and have not run Windows since version 3.1 in 1995. I am used to having to do some work to get my X configuration correct, to get sound working at all, etc. I am now running Ubuntu, and have not had to touch a single configuration file. This is on a laptop, an eMachines M6805. The wide screen display (1280x800) was correctly configured - I had naturally expected it to choose 1024x768 and have to edit the xorg.conf to fix it. Sound works. It detected the wireless and built in ethernet, allowed me to select the wireless and enter my WEP key during installation, even the media keys (volume, mail, etc.) were properly configured. Later, I had to install Windows XP in order to load maps onto my GPS - since this machine is designed to run Windows, I didn't expect to have any compatibility issues, but *surprise*! The screen resolution was wrong, the wireless card was not detected at all, sound does not work. I don't know if it configured the media keys correctly or not as I have only had to run Windows twice, once to load maps and later to setup my DSL which unfortunately could only be done by running the Windows coaster which SBC sent me. I assume that all that doesn't work under Windows could be fixed by hunting around for drivers, but the simple fact that no such work was needed under Ubuntu whereas Windows is unable to make use of all of this Windows hardware was quite a surprise.

  9. Re:One little additional remark by Frogbert · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another little remark:

    I've used Ubuntu since Hoary and I was always impressed at its quality over previous linux distros I had tried, FC4 most notably. I reciently installed it on a relitivily modern laptop and realised once I had done setting it up it had actually been easier to install and get up to date then Windows.

    With Windows XP I have to install it, then find my SP2 cd and install that, download a heap of updates. Then I have to download drivers to get everything to work and so on. Now Ubuntu isn't much different its just the process takes a lot less time and is easier to do. As soon as you are done installing the base system there is a pop up that tells you you need to update. So you click that wait a while for it to download and your done, you do need to restart once because there is a new kernal out but that is understandable and is still much better then the 5 or probably more times Windows XP needs. And with Automatix the rest of your setup is easier still.

    I could not be more happy with my ubuntu laptop. There are even ATI video card driver packages available making for a very slick install.

  10. Distribution of choice by DeathElk · · Score: 5, Funny
    The following quote from a slashdotter (who's name escapes me) kind of brings perspective to the whole battle for superiority amongst distros:

    "My distribution of choice is superior in every way to your pathetic distribution of choice. You are the lowest form of loser to think that your worthless distribution could hold a candle to the God-like superiority of my distribution.

    "My distribution's superiority is clearly demonstrated by it's magnificent out-of-the box handling of my obscure feature of choice. Your pathetic distribution doesn't even support my obscure feature of choice without a course of action so complex that it's madness to even contemplate it.

    "Clearly, my distribution of choice will utterly destroy your distribution of choice. This is so certain it is pointless for you to resist it."

  11. Re:One little additional remark by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So why doesn't Microsoft provide updated copies of its OS with new computers that come out, instead of shipping the exact same disk they've been shipping for the last 5 years? Why don't they go around collecting all the new popular drivers, and have a database of them so it can download them right off the internet, automatically, without having to search around for them?

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  12. news from the field by erinacht · · Score: 4, Informative
    I run a business (admittedly I'm a one man band contractor). My server is ubuntu and my laptop is ubuntu. Both very nice and easy and quick to configure, it wasn't completely painless, but neither is a windows server/desktop solution.
    I've also just upgraded my in-law's aging P2 300 win98 machine with ubuntu. They're very happy with it. Their needs are limited admittedly - web,mail,digital camera,chess,patience. Ubuntu passes with flying colours. I showed them round gnome in a matter of minutes and they were up to speed in no time. Now they keep saying things like - it's _so_ much faster. it looks _so_ much better. No surprise really since win98 is now 7 years old and ubuntu 5.10 is 1 month old. The point is that they would not have had the same experience had I tried a WinXP upgrade on that old hardware.
    For a home desktop, I can recommend Automatix - that installs all that "other" stuff for a desktop system.
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
    Capabilities:
    1) Installs multimedia codecs
    2) Installs all Firefox plugins (java, flash, etc) (except Adobe reader and mplayer)
    3) Installs RAR, ACE and UNRAR archive support
    4) Installs skype
    5) Installs Acrobat reader 7 and firefox plugin for the same.
    6) Installs Gnomebaker (CD/DVD burning s/w for GNOME)
    7) Installs gftp (FTP client for GNOME with ssh capability)
    8) Installs DC++ , amule and Limewire (file sharing progs)
    9) Installs multimedia editors (Audacity (audio), Kino (video), EasyTag (ID3))
    10) Installs DVD (dvdrip) ripper
    11) Installs Mplayer and mplayerplug-in version 3.05 for Firefox
    12) Installs totem-xine, VLC and Beep Media Player (with docklet)
    13) Installs Opera Browser
    14) Installs Debian Menu (shows all installed applications) (this kills and restarts your gnome-panel without warning u!)
    15) Installs Bittornado and Azureus (Bittorrent clients)
    16) Installs Avidemux (Video editing tool)
    17) Enables Numlock on (turns numlock on Gnome startup)
    18) Installs Programming Tools (Anjuta (C/C++ IDE), Bluefish (HTML editor) and Screem (Web Development Env.))
    19) Install GnomePPP (Graphical Dial up connection tool)
    20) Installs MS true type fonts
    21) Configures ctrl-alt-del to start gnome-system-monitor (aka windows)
    22) Installs Streamripper and Streamtuner
    23) Installs NON-FREE audio and dvd codecs
    24) Installs ndisgtk (WiFi configurator Graphical user interface)
    25) Upgrades Open Office to 2.0 (final version), installs openoffice clipart and installs OO2 thumbnailer. (no support for AMD64 and ppc packages)
    26) Adds 3 nautilus scripts (open any file with gedit as root; open a nautilus window as root in any folder; open gnome search tool in any folder (Right click in a nautilus window and look under "scripts")
    27) Installs SUN'S JAVA JRE and JDK version 1.5
    28) Installs wine (u need to run winecfg manually after installation)
    29*) Installs firestarter (GNOME firewall frontend) and adds firestarter to GNOME startup
    30*) installs gdesklets (GNOME eyecandy) and adds gdesklets to GNOME startup
    31*) Gamepads (Makes USB gamepads work)
    32*) Turns DMA ON on Intel and AMD machines (needs a restart)
    33*) NVIDIA cards (Detects Nvidia cards and installs drivers) (Needs a restart)
    34*) Adds midi capability to your Ubuntu box (test by playing a midi file with timidity or pmidi from terminal)

    * --> These options require manual intervention and clicking. Please stand by!

    PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL (23) IF YOU ARE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT IS ILLEGAL TO DO SO.