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Red Hat Begins Testing Core 5
Robert wrote to mention a CBR Online article which reports that Red Hat has begun testing on Fedora Core 5. From the article: "The next version of Raleigh, North Carolina-based Red Hat's enterprise Linux distribution is not scheduled for release until the second half of 2006 but will include stateless Linux and Xen virtualization functionality and improved management capabilities. Fedora Core 5 Release 1 includes updated support for XenSource Inc's open source server virtualization software, as well as new versions of the Gnome and KDE user interfaces, and the final version of the OpenOffice.org application suite."
My experience trying to setup wireless with Fedora Core 4 was brutal. Nothing I needed was in the initial install. With no net connection in linux I had to keep booting into my windows partition to search for any help at all on how to set things up and then download what I needed. And then go back into linux to toil and then fail. And then repeat the process. Eventually I got my card at least detected, but when I activated it the whole machine hung. So I gave up on Red Hat.
Ubuntu detected my wireless card. But has no WPA support.
It seems that Suse will also detect things, but also has no WPA support. They also have no Live CD. Why they can make a Live DVD but not a Live CD is beyond me. Just shave off some crap. All I want to know is if your distro will support my machine or not.
Linux on the Desktop? Not if the user has a wireless card.
The last time I installed Fedora Core 4 off a boot CD I was amazed that to do an ftp install I still had to punch in manually what mirror I wanted to do the install from. Computer games have been grabbing "master server lists" for some time now. Can't something similar be worked into the FTP install?
Calm down, dude. Stateless Linux and Xen are the actual names of projects included in Fedora Core. They are not buzzwords or marketspeak. "Open source server virtualization software" was slightly redundant, but it is also a plain English description of Xen, which is exactly what you're asking for.
Give the user a complete non-working system?
At the point where the STABLE system does not detect the networking correctly or cannot configure the user should right then and there be able to grab the UNSTABLE stuff which in all likelihood will get their networking to work, albeit unstably.
The Fedora devs are pretty involved with OpenOffice. When Core 4 was released it was shipped with OpenOffice.Org 1.979 or something like that. Obviously Core4 has since been update to 2.0, but they are either referring to 2.0 or maybe 2.1x which is still in development but will be more stable by release time (and Fedora will be undergoing a ton of testing and stability checks over the next 3 months now that the test releases are out). Fedora was the first distribution to have OpenOffice.org use a native interface, they tend to have the coolest stuff first, mainly because the Fedora developers code large portions of the code themselves (in contrast to many other distributions which simply package up other people's programs and call it a distro without really contributing any code back).
Regards,
Steve
I keep trying to install linux because I've used it in the past and like it. At this point it's like battered wife syndrome.
You think wireless security is optional and call me an idiot?
I think getting networking working is fundamental. And if that means giving the user the option of using an unstable piece of software then that is what must be done.
He's not saying that the GTK optimisation was the problem that caused the delay... he's saying that the GTK speedup is needed NOW instead of 9 months from now and that's a problem BECAUSE of the delay.
Er...i think what's more apparent is YOUR stupidity. He wasn't saying the optimizations in GTK and Gnome is what was slowing Fedora's release cycle down. He way saying that BECAUSE of things slowing the release cycle down (like those you listed) Fedora users will have to wait until the next release to get all the nice things that are now going into GTK and Gnome. Unless they want to install "unstable" stuff.
"But, all of a sudden, out of the blue, RedHat announced "no more free linux from us". Then, they released RHEL, and it was a couple of months before they announced Fedora Core was coming out. RHEL pricing is completely insane."
All they said was that they wer eno longer interested in trying to support mom and pop with redhat. There is nothing wrong with that. They didn't take anything away from you, you still have fedora core.
If you want EL without paying for it there is centos and others too.
Red Hat is in the support business. When you pay for RHEL you are paying for support and in order for them to deliver credible support they have to have a known good quantity to support. RHEL is simply a support package against a known good snapshot of Fedora Core.
By the way if you think that when you buy windows XP MS will answer all your questions for five years you are in for a big surprise.
evil is as evil does
http://sources.redhat.com/ecos/ http://sources.redhat.com/redboot/ http://sourceware.org/jffs2/ http://cygwin.com/ http://people.redhat.com/mingo/exec-shield/ http://sourceware.org/insight/ http://sourceware.org/cluster/ http://sourceware.org/systemtap/
and don't forget ext3 is largely bankrolled by redhat.
there's lots more. just because you're unaware of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
why don't you ask them?
why don't you ask them?
yes. sure, redhat employs kernel devs like alan, ingo and arjen. redhat also pays to employ gcc and gdb developers. and others.
yep.
really? who wrote rpm then? should you not then lambast mandrake and suse for using rpm, because they didn't write it?
sure there are legitimate gripes about fedora. that's no reason to make stuff up.