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Web Based Rhapsody Targets Linux

Asklepius M.D. writes "According to Marketwatch, RealNetworks is releasing a web based version of Rhapsody called.....Rhapsody.com that will function on other-than-IE browsers including Firefox and Safari. The article quotes Jupimedia analyst Joe Wilcox as saying "...it brings the first real subscription music service to Mac and Linux-based products.""

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  1. Drm on linux by hug_the_penguin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DRM has no kernel support in linux, and one assumes they're using DRM. An estimate of 3 days 'til it's cracked?

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    1. Re:Drm on linux by knipknap · · Score: 4, Funny

      DRM support has been in the Linux kernel for years.

    2. Re:Drm on linux by Wolfger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hence the application "StreamRipper", which records streaming audio to mp3 for later playback. This is nothing more than modern-day "taping songs off the radio", except when I was a kid, I could tape more than 25 songs a month. I'm much more interested in Independant and Creative Commons music these days. The RIAA doesn't want to play nice, so I just won't play with them at all.

  2. iTunes by sardonic2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I figured iTunes worked on Mac's.. guess I know less about Apple Strategery than I thought.

    1. Re:iTunes by BushCheney08 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You missed the key word there - subscription. It is the first music service on Mac and Linux where you can pay and pay, but ultimately never own anything in the end.

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  3. Mac? BSD? by uberjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe to be more inclusive the article should read "Rapshody Targets non-windows users" instead of linux. Last I checked Safari was was not available for linux.

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    1. Re:Mac? BSD? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Last I checked Safari was was not available for linux. Maybe not, but you can get a browser based on Apple's WebCore rendering engine (essentially modifications to KHTML) for Linux called Gtk+ WebCore, which is based on GTK 2.x.

    2. Re:Mac? BSD? by dr.badass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe to be more inclusive the article should read "Rapshody Targets non-windows users" instead of linux.

      And maybe to be more accurate it should read "Rhapsody Flails Around Aimlessly in the Dark In Search of User Base".

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  4. Good news by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Because services are moving to the Web. They should have done it much earlier.

    But the question is: Will Linux users use Real's product? Reviews on Real's products here on slashdot have not been that favuorable in the past.

    1. Re:Good news by EtherAlchemist · · Score: 4, Informative


      Will Linux users use Real's product?

      If you use Xandros the RealPlayer comes as the default media player. This is not a bad deal either, because the Linux player is not crammed full of ads- it does what a media player should: play media. I give the Xandros guys a lot of credit, too, because ever since they started bundling the RealPlayer with their distro, they've been the ones to actually make the install work. Prior to that, Real had (still does I think) it listed as an alpha.

      I would think more Linux folks would be attracted to Real, actually, because they have the open source version of the player and server, Helix and last I checked neither Apple nor MS have made their player OSS.

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  5. Capitalization is everything by richdun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "...it brings the first Real subscription music service to Mac and Linux-based products."

    Silly Real, of course it's their first subscription service available to Mac and Linux users.

  6. Re:From Real? by hug_the_penguin · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Their realplayer for windows is practically spyware. How many legitimate programs can get away with passing advertising messages, embedding adverts, popping up annoying content etc. and not get called adware.

    How many companies can do this and then charge for `premium` functionality?

    Real's days are at an end. They support very few portable music players, and what happens when noone wants to let real support their player? What happens to all your DRMed music then? And what happens when their ads get more invasive and more annoying?

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  7. Subscription by everphilski · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a subscription service, iTunes is not.
    -everphilski-

  8. really? by andy4322 · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I tried their free trial, I got this:

    http://cache.ultramercial.com/d/033-218/civic_hyb_ os_false.html

  9. It bothers me by 4D6963 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The name Rhapsody bothers me, everytime I hear it I think it's gonna be something about Apple's Rhadsody, Mac OS X's daddy, seriously, they should pick another name..

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  10. Not WMV. Whatever it is, not that by CdBee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Real use their own DRM scheme on AAC (Advanced Audio Codec)

    Its likely - from my guess, not the article - that they'll stream a file to an in-browser player. But then, remember this is all the words of a third-party "analyst" - which often means rumour-monger.

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  11. Speaking of Linux Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Using konqueror, it says:

    "Incompatible Browser
      We're sorry. We currently only support the following browsers: Internet Explorer 6 and higher, Firefox 1.0.1 and higher, Safari 1.3 and higher and Netscape 8 and higher.

      Firefox 1.0 users, click here to upgrade"

    Ok, let's try using Firefox 1.5:

    "To play music, you'll need to do a quick install
    Just follow these two easy steps.

          1.

                Install Rhapsody Music Engine

                Click the button below and follow our direction on the next screen.
          2.

                Register Free

                Get a free Rhapsody Account.
                No Credit Card required.

    We're sorry but the combination of your operating system and Firefox 1.5 is not currently supported."

  12. Re:From Real? by pregister · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've used Rhapsody for a year or two now. It's a decent service. Ignore their "programming". Listen to what you want to listen to. As far as it being in a browser, their windows based program pretty much implements a browser in the app itself...which is kinda slow and kludgy...i think trying one that is actually stand alone browser-based might improve things.

    NOTE: I don't buy music through rhapsody. I use it to sample new releases, catch up on things I might have missed before, track down the odd song from my youth, and listen to stuff that is available on usenet before I download it. ;)

    For the $9/month (or around there, i haven't checked in a while) its the easiest way to listen to music that i don't already own (the only exception is the old days of audiogalaxy. Best. Site. Ever.) ...helps me decide what music i wanna track down to stick on my ipod.

    -p

  13. Re:From Real? by joeljkp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ever used their Linux player? It's very simple, doesn't do any unwanted things, fits in with the rest of the GNOME desktop, and is open source (except for the codecs in the commercial version). Real's the only major online media company out there paying Linux any attention at all. I say we keep them around.

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  14. Re:Another horrible execution plan by Real by b4k3d+b34nz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, either Real's servers recovered or your browser/internet connection sucks. It loaded in less that a second on our less-than-perfect connection here at work.

    By the way, I don't think your 15 year old sister could do a better job. I think too many people don't understand that just because "anyone can create a website" doesn't mean that everyone does it well. Their website isn't that bad. In fact, it seems to be the best thing Real has ever done. Their main product is Real Player. Guess what's at the top of the page? Real Player. Guess what's new? Rhapsody? It's at the top of the page too. I think you just got out of the bed on the wrong side this morning...they seem to be doing a fine job of releasing their product, crappy though it is.

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  15. Re:From Real? by Albanach · · Score: 4, Insightful
    First off, Real have been around a long time and while the big media sites stream using their software they're going nowhere.

    Secondly, RealPlayer is a heck of a lot better than it once was. It's also straightforward to find the free player on their site, after a period where they hid it in the depths of real.com

    Sure this is a subscription service - that means it's not for everyone. However there are also lots of folk who are happy to pay $10 a month for a huge music library.

    Real made their player available for linux, made their server open source and suffer only complaints.

    They're a big company and they make their music player available so it works on Linux and the Mac and supports Firefox perfectly. Folk still complain.

    Real's business model is subscription music. That might not be of interest to you so go bug Apple to provide you with iTunes on Linux. In the mean time don't take out your frustrations that apple are ignoring you on another firm that has chose to welcom Linux - Real should be applauded for this

  16. Some songs you just don't want to "own" by robla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Disclaimer: I'm an ex-Real employee and still own stock. However, no one is paying me to say this.

    Subscription music occupies an interesting niche for the way I listen to music. I've got several levels of music:
    1. Stuff I need to own: this is the music I can listen to a lot, and not get sick of it quickly. Even when I do get sick of it, I can put it away for a while, come back in 6 months and like it again.
    2. Stuff it's nice to own: good tunes that I may or may not get sick of, but I want to be able to listen to wherever I want
    3. Stuff I'd never buy (for much), but still have fun listening to: I have a very large collection of vinyl, most of which I picked up in the late 1980s/early 1990s for 99c an album when everyone was moving to CD. I would have /never/ paid full price for a lot of it, but it is fun to be able to pull it out. Still, it's a PITA to deal with vinyl.
    4. Novelty items that I listen to once or twice
    5. Stuff that I never knew I'd want, but if I could listen to it in the course of the day, I'd buy.

    Rhapsody is not a good choice for #1 or #2. However, I've found it great for #3-#5. I've discovered a lot of music that I never would have without Rhapsody, since it really encourages exploration. I can grab my tattered Billboard Top 40 book, and look for old sludgey hits and occassionally have one of those "oh my god...I remember /that/" moments. Generally, those songs are not the type of songs that I then get all uppity about needing to own.

    Since I use Linux on my desktop, I've had to use my wife's Windows box to listen to/use Rhapsody, which irritates me, but I'll survive. The bad news is that it doesn't look like there's /quite/ enough there yet for me to switch over to using it primarily on Linux (unless I'm missing something...I need to access my private playlists), but I understand it'll get there.

    Rob