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Macedonia Deploys 5,000 Ubuntu Desktops in Schools

vladoboss writes "The latest GNOME Journal is running a story about the deployment of 5000 Ubuntu desktops in public schools. The Republic of Macedonia is a small country in Southern Europe with a population of around 2 million. Internet penetration is only around 5% and software piracy rate is rampant. Also, the government does not play any major role in the development of the ICT (Information and Communication Technologies) and a private sector is dominated by Microsoft technologies. Given the circumstances, one would not expect any free software related stories to make the headlines. Yet the presence of a small volunteer organization by the name Free Software Macedonia is making a big difference in this small country."

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  1. Copyrights, copyrights, copyrights... by HermanAB · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Due to pressure by large countries to honour patents and copyrights, poor countries are all switching to free software. The strict enforcement of copyrights is the best thing that can ever happen to the Free Software movement and to the poor, it is a godsend.

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    1. Re:Copyrights, copyrights, copyrights... by bogie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The other best thing is software DRM/activation.

      I hope with Vista that there is no Corporate version and that all businesses and consumer had to pay full price and activate immediately upon install. Make Windows and Office impossible to pirate and watch OSS use sky rocket.

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  2. Oh, good grief. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1, Insightful

    software piracy rate is rampant

    Stop it. Stop it, I say. I can't stand the words "rampant" and "piracy" in the same sentence anymore. And besides, how can a rate be rampant?

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  3. Re:Office Apps by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless you are programming or "forced" to deal with the command line (not likely), I don't see much major relearing going on moving from Linux to MS or the other way around when it comes to office apps (OO to MSOffice or the other way around) - it's mostly point and click with similiar interfaces. Also learning to use the web (since they have low internet penetration), which is pretty much the same experience for any GUI system.

    Sometimes there is more relearning between versions of an App than there is between two different apps that serve the same purpose.

    The other thing I imagine they can use is educational software - I should check the article if they deployed Ubuntu or Edubuntu.

    I wonder if the free educational software in the OS world could provide schools lots of savings?

  4. The right direction by Malangali · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is exactly the sort of initiative that is needed in poorer countries. The reason so many people remain poor around the world is that they don't have skills that are of value in the global marketplace, and for the most part they don't have the opportunity to get those skills. When you get the kids wired, they get the opportunity to learn the same skills that people in wealthier countries make dang sure to give their own kids - and we're all the better off for it.

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  5. Re:Office Apps by tsmithnj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    37.5% of them won't have to re-learn anything, because that is their unemployment rate. (SOurce-CIA Factbook:http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factb ook/geos/mk.html)

    Perhaps free software will create jobs. The opportunity is certainly there.

  6. Re:Office Apps by lpcustom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I fear that these Macedonian kids are going to grow up with higher intellects than people who post on slashdot explaining what a GUI is and using terms like "root editor". Who knows, these kids may actually grow up to be "highly skilled technicians". It's a lot better than dumbed down power users with no idea what they are talking about.
    I mean seriously, American children should have more of this. Challenge them. I sound like my dad but kids these days spend more time BS'ing about what they don't know instead of actually learning it. I feel sorry for my country. We put so much effort into convincing our kids how great our country is and how smart they are for being able to turn on a computer. We should be teaching them skills that will enable them to compete in the world. I say good for Macedonian.

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  7. Well, kubuntu then? by Crouty · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Two points I's like to address: First, freedom is more important than free beer (or Metaxa or wha'ever). Not falling for Microsoft's lock-in offers is a step in the right direction.

    Second, Gnome/KDE, it does not really make that much of a difference. ubuntu, kubuntu, both look nice, can run browsers, office software, software development software and definately a heck more than they would have if they were to use licensed payware.

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  8. Don't you F.Y.R.O.M. me by SamoVasGledamo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Follow the link to the macedonian FOSS site and look closely at the yellow box in the upper left corner, then click on it and read.

    F.Y.R.O.M. is the name that the European Commission kindly asks us all to use, because of a spat with Greece over what the term "Macedonia" actually refers to. The Greeks claim that Macedonia is in fact a region spanning parts of Greece, "the F.Y.R.O.M" and Bulgaria, IIRC. The Macedonian people refer to their country as "Macedonia", just as Americans refer to the country they live in as "America", despite the fact that the term encompasses vast areas clearly beyond the borders of the U.S.A.

    It is of course, no factual error to call the country F.Y.R.O.M. But you probably don't go around saying that Lhasa is in China, do you?

  9. Re:Bölöni != Boloni by donscarletti · · Score: 2, Insightful
    When writing English, Russian, Japanese, Korean and Greek people will transliterate their names from their native alphabets into the English superset of the Latin alphabet. This is because it is only expected that an English speaker will know the alphabet they use. So, when they are working in an English speaking country (like the United States), why shouldn't someone who's name was originally written in another Latin superset transliterate their name as much as possible into the English Latin superset so that native speakers of English can pronounce it. In English the symbol used above that ö is known as a diaeresis mark and is used to signify that two consecutive vowels do not constitute a diphthong and thus the vowel must make its default sound (usually the long sound) which is wholly in line with the "baloney" like pronounciation.

    This is not a phenomenon localised to America, it is simply caused by people only being familiar with the character set they know. Until central Europeans in general learn the difference between "w" and "v" in English, they have no right to lecture English speakers for not being able to pronounce their own additions to Latin script. While we are discussing ignorance in pronunciation, I think you are probably not aware that most American accents are Rhotic, i.e. they would pronounce the two instances of the letter r that you added as if they were at the front of words. Thus, B-[ir]-l-[ir]-ni would only in fact be pronounced like the Hungarian Bölöni by an Englishman, a New Zealander or an Australian. Pronounced by an American this name would just sound plain awful (though insistently this applies to most words Americans pronounced) with lound rs and far too much time would be spent pronouncing the awkward rl and rn consonant transitions.

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  10. Re:Office Apps by ddimas · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Since the day The Republic of Macedonia (I heartily disagree with the politcally correct FYROM) declared independence, the US has supported the it and it's lawfully elected Government, and thus the majority of the people. We have supported your troops and police. We poured tons of money into your economy, and we definatly did not help the NLA or any follow-on groups.


    It's not a matter of political correctness. It's a matter of a Serbian nation making territorial demands in Greece. How would you like it if Canada renamed southern Quebec 'New York' and started making territorial claims on New York state?


    Vlakas Amerikanos.

  11. Math by KlaymenDK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    2.000.000 population, 5% internet penetration, 5.000 Ubuntu desktops -- instant 5% market share if you look at it one way.

    No wonder this makes headlines.