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Kansas Anti-Creationism Professor Resigns

An anonymous reader writes "A Professor of religion at University of Kansas has resigned from his position at the university because of his anti-creationism views." From the article: "Mirecki had planned to teach a course in the spring that examined creationism and intelligent design after the State Board of Education adopted science standards treating evolution as a flawed theory. Originally called 'Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies,' the course was canceled last week at Mirecki's request." The article goes on to explain that Mirecki evidently sent poorly worded email with anti-Christian sentiments around to people interested in the class, and was subsequently beaten for his troubles.

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  1. Kansas... by azav · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Why can't Kansas just secede from the union?

    The United State of Kansas.

    Sorta has a ring to it doesn't it?

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  2. Re:Beaten? by _KiTA_ · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Ah, I see this is the first time you've ran into fundamentalist Christians.

    Don't worry, he was a heathen, so it's ok to hurt him. Perfectly Christian of them.

    Heck, if he was gay they could have killed him and they would have probably been nominated for sainthood.

  3. Re:Beaten? by krbvroc1 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Of course being beaten is extreme. It sounds like the Taliban in Afghanistan or the religous police in Iran or the Shiite Sadr militiamen in Iraq. It is what happens when a Country fails to honor the principle of Separation of Church and State.

  4. Re:It depends upon the Church. by FahrenheitLF · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    >>There's as much legitimacy in focusing on God's Rightous Wrath as there is in focusing on Jesus Forgiving. Tell that to those who lost loved ones on 9/11 and in Iraq to those focused on their "God's Rightous Wrath".

  5. Re:Beaten? by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Definately both bad.

    Fundies are just as dangerous, as this article shows.

    The difference is termininology - muslim extremists, christian fundamentalists.. in fact there's little difference - both prepared to kill for their beliefs.

  6. Re:Boy, I sure am surprised! by metlin · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Religion has been existing for a very, very long time.

    Jews killing Christians, Christians killing the heathens, the Crusades, Catholism vs. Protestants, Hinduism vs. Islam, Islamic fundamentalism are all just within the recent past. VERY recent past, in the *entire* human history.

    If you take into account tonnes of other religious conquests and killings, you will most definitely find that the total would hit a billion quite easily.

    A lot of times, race and religion have often gone hand in hand (e.g. Judaism is an ethnicity and a religion). Heck, even Hitler extended his rationalizations towards a religious doctrine.

    You'd be surprised - you should probably do a little more historical reading, before you go abusing someone.

  7. Re:Beaten? by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Thanks for helping to prove my point.

  8. Re:Beaten? by ncc74656 · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    muslim extremists, christian fundamentalists.. in fact there's little difference

    Yeah, those Christian fundies are hacking off people's heads all over the place, and blowing themselves up inside crowded buses, schools, and bars because the rest of us don't believe exactly as they do.

    Idiot.

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  9. ID and Bigots by Robowally · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I an wondering how many of the highly educated and well read atheists who troll /. have actually bothered reading any ID material. From the comments I read, it seems, not many.

    Here is a link to a DVD/video that you can watch online by an agnostic (Dr. David Berlinski) who tears apart the religion of Darwinism. Perhaps a small amount of time invested in watching it would help the atheist bigotry so rampant in these comments, and inject a little reality in to the equation.

    Here is the link: http://www.theapologiaproject.org/video_library.ht m

    It is the fourth movie down from the top.

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  10. Re:Beaten? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I'll bet you a sig line that it turns out he made up the "beating". Looking at the dude, if he really got jumped by two guys, he wouldn't have walked away from it. Reading his e-mail, he hasn't the highest character level, regardless of his beliefs.

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  11. Re:It sounds like email by Bush+Pig · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    OTOH, the fucking fundies deserve every bit of abuse that comes their way, and then some.

    They seem to think that being as dumb as shit gives _them_ the right to abuse anyone who disagrees with them.

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  12. Re:Beaten? by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    > ... fundamentalists seem ignorant, naive, and arrogant ...

    You left out "intellectually lazy", but that's OK. It gave me the opportunity to add it.

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  13. Re:It sounds like email by ocelotbob · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Sort of like fundamentalist atheists, eh? Because you don't believe in a god, there can't possibly be one, non?

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  14. Re:Beaten? by CptNerd · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    And yet you feel free to shove down our throats the inability to use land we as taxpayers paid for, using the powers of government that we as voters participate in.

    Also, displaying any religious symbols is most emphatically not "establishing a religion." All it's doing is offending people who feel they have a "right" not to be offended, while simultaneously denying Christians the same "right."

    And you call it "your government." Telling phrase, that. Maybe the next thing will be disenfranchising people who don't agree with your views on religion. After all, if I as a Christian and a voter participate in "your government" I might be voting based on my religious beliefs, which is as much an "establishment of religion" as any public display of symbols. Heavens (sorry), I might even run for office, and electing a Christian might just bring the End of the Republic! You Know How THOSE People Are...

    Troll Mod in 3... 2... 1...

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  15. Re:It sounds like email by StarKruzr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Except the difference is that on average (and likely to a very large degree) the "fundamentalist" atheists are much more intelligent and educated than the fundamentalist Christians.

    If you choose to deny this, I'd love to hear how you justify it, because you know the above statement is true.

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  16. Re:Observations from an actual KU student by AK+Marc · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It still revealed his hostile views to "fundies",

    I hate Fundamentalists, regardless of their religion or lack thereof. They are narrow minded, pushy people that live through hate. Fundamentalists also seem to be hypocrites, stating one thing and doing another. They are the fanatics who lose all sense of working within a society, tolerance, compassion, and just the generally nice qualities the other humans possess. So, screw the "fundies."

  17. Re:It sounds like email by IllForgetMyNickSoonA · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    You know, I used to call myself a "fundamentalist atheist", too. Some 10 years ago, I figured that's a too... well, fundamentalistic position to take, so I changed my stance to being a "moderate atheist", very firm in my position, but still keeping out of any religious discussions. I felt really good, being open-minded, tolerant, and generally very relaxed about that topic.

    Now, 10 years later, I am very inclined towards becoming fundamentalist again. The world, it seems, has changed: religious jerks seem to be getting stronger again, and are finding new ways to impose their delusions onto unwashed masses. Only, this time they are doing it the sneaky way: instead of resorting to their usual "Holy Inquisition" approach, they are trying to wrap up their fantasies in something which might look like science to the uneducated and ignorant. They even outright lie that it *is* science.

    Why does it bother me now? Science, in my opinion, is the greatest thing humankind has ever invented. It presents a noble mechanism of discovering the world around us, without cowardly resorting to "final truths" or "divine beings" when the going gets tough. Science is what differentiates us from animals (science and art, of course, but that's a different topic).

    Religion, in its' definition, is the opposite of science. Throughout the history, the religion has oppressed science, and was actively trying to silence down the scientists whenever their theories were opposing the religious view of the world.

    That now religious fanatics are trying to misuse science in order for their purposes is what makes me sick to my stomach. The time has come to stand up and kick some fanatic asses again.

  18. Re:Rule #2 by sh4na · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    The point to the Bible is that you can't be good enough to go to heaven. Therefore, you need a Savior who is good enough (aka perfect) who became a sacrifice for you.


    Right, that's just what we need... some twat prattling on about how everyone who exists is not worthy to go to heaven so we need the middleman to set things straight for us stupid sinners... I need that like I need a shot in the arm, duh! You managed to confirm everything the other poster said, i.e. who needs a religion to talk to god? Sheeesh!

    That's the problem with people, they want to get to heaven their way and not God's way. They think they can be good enough to get to heaven and they can't.


    hahahahahaha! This is so idiotic I'm laughing my ass off! Get in to Heaven our way instead of God's way? ROFL! We invented heaven, you twat! In case you haven't noticed, religion and myth is man's own invention, and we're dumb enough to invent something that we make automatically out of reach except for the intervention of a perfect superior being we invented... lol yeah I guess you do have a point, we're just stupid that way.

    aaaahhhh religious freaks... always make my day :D

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  19. Re:Observations from an actual KU student by Uberbah · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Nice try, but utter BS.

    Pot. Kettle. Black. Not to mention being a perfect example of pretending to be a victum.

    The ACLU is busy trying to drive Christianity from all walks of public life, in a bizarre perversion of the intent of the 1st amendment.

    Utter nonsense, as usual. The ACLU is only concerned when the government is involved.

    The Boy Scouts (a monotheistic organization) is being persecuted widely (here in the Phoenix area, one town refused to allow its charity funds to go there).

    If by "persecuted" you mean "denied any taxpayer money or the free use of public land", then yes. Which they deserve as long as they descriminate against homosexuals and non-Christians. They certainally are free to associate with whomever they choose, but they are also free to do it without the free use of public resources.

    The Catholic Church has been frequently desecrated by Homosexual activists, while its practices and beliefs are widely attacked,including in Hollywood fictional series (I enjoy watching the "Law and Order" series but some of their attacks on the Church have been highly offensive).

    Blah blah blah blah. When homosexuals start passing Constitutional amendments banning Christian marriage, or start beating Christians to death and leaving them tied to fences, I'll be impressed. Until then, your playing the victum card is as much nonsense as if I complained about how much I, a 27 year old male of German-Irish desent, personally suffered from the Holocaust.

    Fundamentalists are laughed at by all "sophisticates" and generally treated as hicks.

    Because they are. True fundamentalists believe the Earth is 4,000 or so years old, was created in 7 days, and so on. Not even the Popes do that anymore. Taking 2,000+ year old myths literally while ignoring 2,000 years of scientific and social advances is rather redicoulous.

    While I don't agree with all of their views, they are mocked and misportrayed in a way that would be a very big no-no if done to Muslims or fundamentalist Jews.

    Of course fundamentalist Jews and Muslims get mocked. They are just vastly outnumbered in this country by fundamentalist Christians, and have little political power, unlike fundamentalist Christians. That's not the case, in oh say, Isreal or Iran. Try visiting those places and you'll see hardline clerics and members of the Likud party being mocked all the time.

    If one adopts even the slightest sensitivity towards mainstream Christian views

    You wouldn't know mainstream if you were bitten on the ass by Godzilla and he was wearing a nametag saying, "Hello, my name is Mainstream."