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The Future of Emacs
An anonymous reader writes "If you've not heard much about Emacs development in recent years, you might
be surprised to find that it is has been very active. Emacs 22 will have many
new features such as support for Mac OS X and Cygwin; mouse wheel support
and many new modes and packages. It can also be built with Gtk+ widgets and
supports drag and drop for X. The NEWS file details all the changes.
Although its very stable, don't expect to see it released any time shortly because according to
RMS, the Emacs developers haven't been fixing bugs quickly enough. Those
who have followed Emacs for long enough might see a different pattern."
Since we're talking about Emacs here, it would be good to clarify whether Emacs will be running under OS X and Cygwin or the other way around.
I too have felt the cold finger of injustice.
It's no wonder so many open source projects never make it as far as a v1 release - emacs is stealing all of the version numbers!
22!!
VI? bah user friendliness pussy!
real men use ed
Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'
If you've not heard much about Emacs development in recent years, you might be surprised to find that it is has been very active.
Wow - I just thought it was full.
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
!q ao sf yc09 3 #% @ #$%! $R$^ &U ^O%(#T R(RU @( (DZUDX(UV EWER
DAMN vi KEYBINDINGS!!!
( to be fair, emacs keybindings aren't easy to learn either)
Emacs 22 will have many new features such as support for Mac OS X and Cygwin
Wait, so I can use my Emacs operating system on top my Windows operating system?
I'm still waiting for them to release an emacs that runs on the metal, without an inferior (read: not written in lisp) OS in the middle.
Till it has a clippy...
Give me clippy!
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Sorry, that is not a real man! This is a machine!
real men use ed
No, real men use cat, and get it right the first time!
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
You know, if "according to RMS" wants the bugs fixed faster, he should roll up his sleeves and fix some of the bugs. That's what GPL is all about, after all. Rather than complaining, he should be in there helping.
Anyone can complain. Few take the responsibility for fixing the problem.
I've just bought my dad a new Ferrari, and was looking around for a snow plow for it. Any ideas?
Have you ever been writing a document then suddenly thought "Gee I'd love to play chess at the moment"? With another editor you'd be stuffed - you'd probably have to open another program or something, but not with Emacs.
With Emacs you could be editing your document while chatting on IRC and checking your email, and you wouldn't even need another program. I heard with the new version it will make you tea and give you a massage. I know it already comes with a kitchen sink: apt says so.
Real Men use raw TECO, where a pair of mistyped keystrokes can destroy your whole source, corrupt your kernel and start a full-scale nuclear war.
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
Are you sure that shouldn't be mouse-whe.el?
Still far from the goal: 42
Think Deeper, Emacs!
May Peace Prevail On Earth
Just wondering.
I have never understood the name Emac. iMac, ok; maybe the "i" stands for "interactive," or "internet."
But "e," as in "email" or "e-commerce," means "electronic." So what you've got here is an electronic Mac? Well geez, how do all the other kinds work? Are they a mass of cogs and springs on the inside?
Most studies did indeed discover that 5Gb RAM was a bare minimum to run Eclipse.
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
"Little does he know, but there is no 'I' in 'Idiot'!"
...I tried Emacs, but I didn't seem to have enough fingers.
RMS invented GNU. When the father of GPL / FSF can complain, it just invalidates your argument.
"I am the law!" --Judge Dredd
sudo eat my shorts
Still, version 23 will have a special mode that will let you see the fnords.
"Are you being weird, or sarcastic?" said Emma. I said I didn't know because I get the two feelings mixed up.
"Although its very stable, don't expect to see it released any time shortly because according to RMS, the Emacs developers haven't been fixing bugs quickly enough."
Yeah, it's really too bad they don't work quite as fast as those Hurd guys.
#DeleteChrome
Have you ever been writing a document then suddenly thought "Gee I'd love to play chess at the moment"? With another editor you'd be stuffed - you'd probably have to open another program or something, but not with Emacs.
Doesn't work for me. I tried to play, but emacs declined a game:
M-x chess [no match]
I've used vi for twenty.
First, I can use Emacs without taking my hands from the keyboard, ever. I can compile, debug, run a shell - you name it, I can do it without having to reach for the mouse.
Ditto for vi.
Second, it is customizable in the extreme. Everything from key bindings to highlighting is driven by Elisp and regular expressions. Don't like the way something works? You can quickly and easily change it by rebinding a lisp function; most importantly, you can make these mods on the fly, without having to run a separate compile step, without having to restart the editor.
Try vim.
What I'd like to see is an editor that combines the best of Emacs and Eclipse. You'd never have to take your hands from the keyboard. You'd get the attractive UI of Eclipse without the Visual envy. You'd get an editor that makes you more productive and happy than any other.
Try gVIM.
Nothing for 6-digit uids?
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Well only if you insist.
You know what the acronym emacs stands for?
That's right
Escape
Meta
Alt
Control
Shift
It has been statistically shown that helmets increase the risk of head injury.
Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
RMS is too busy fixing bugs in GNU HURD.
cpeterso