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Blu-ray Coming Out On Top?
wh0pper writes "Some interesting information came out at at the latest Blu-ray Disc Association meeting at Twentieth Century Fox Studios. Apparently, 90 percent of the CE industry and seven movie studios now back Blu-ray Disc. And most of the IT industry (except Microsoft) also supports Blu-ray Disc. This has prompted Mr. Parsons, Senior VP of Advanced Products Development for Pioneer Electronics, to say "There's no format war looming because it's not Blu-ray vs. HD DVD. It's simply Blu-ray versus standard definition DVD... Currently, DVD has 50,000 titles presently available, and both formats will co-exist for several years to come with new BD players supporting both formats. BD players make the perfect complement to new HDTVs that are being purchased by consumers." Mr. Parsons then announced that the upcoming CES would be used to launch Blu-ray Disc."
It used to read DVD-RAM discs just fine. Now, it says that the disc is unreadable.
I'm another victim of the DVD format wars.
I'm glad that the industry is standardizing the next generation media now when there are very few (any?) players on the market. It's good to have a standard, even if it is a de facto standard rather than a de jure standard.
Jesus saved me from my past. He can save you as well.
Or maybe not, maybe I'll keep on pirating my movies and music instead of giving another cent to the majors.
Screw them. I prefer indie stuff anyways.
I'm going to skip Blu-Ray (54GB max. storage on dual layer) and go straight to 300GB holographic discs instead. And I'll avoid the crappy DRM Blu-Ray is saddled with.
Of course HDTV will be phased out in 15 years and replaced by HrDTV (Higher Def TV). Anything so the TV companies can keep us buying for years to come...
I guess you didn't notice, but the point behind Sony's tactics here is to provide an extremely fragile media so that you'll both not be able to back up your videos due to draconian DRM and you'll end up rebuying your videos every time they fuck up.
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Oh, come now. This comment is repeatedly echoed in every article about Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD. It's almost becoming groupthink of a sort, if so many people keep saying it, I might as well say it too!
Do you really think if the porn industry decided to go for HD-DVD while 9/10 of the major movie studios went for Bluray that HD-DVD would win out? And here's another hint: the porn industry is concerned with making money; they will go to either format that wins out.
The only reason this keeps coming up is because years ago, Sony didn't want porn on Betamax and it often cited as one of the reasons for its downfall (hint: it wasn't the only one).
Older HDTVs and almost all computer monitors do not support HDCP. People have little incentive to pick bluray or HDDVD when they can't take advantage of the HD content without being forced to upgrade their monitors or tvs. Company that wins will be the first one to remove the HDCP requirement for video out but I have feeling both will not and they'll end up as the same fate DVD audio. Consumers will just ignore the technology.
Have you ever been to a turkish prison?
From what I gather, neither BluRay nor HDDVD will suport full HD resolution via component video, instead consumers will have to use HDMI for its HDCP copy protection.
Well, this is fine if I had a new TV... but instead I have a beautiful 3 year old rear projection HDTV that uses analog component inputs. This is currently connected to a HD DirecTV reciever and my DVD player. The DVD player is of course 480p but I do get as high as 1080i with some of the DirecTV channels.
So now what am I going to do when BluRay or HDDVD comes out and I want to view the full resolution siginal? What are the odds Sony will sell me new electronics to add HDCP digital to my TV? Will I have to use an illegal device to convert the digital stream to component for my TV?
And we all know why micro$oft hates BluRay so much : Java is embedded in every BluRay unit !
Do you have any link about that?
Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage
Think about it. Joe Consumer sees the Blu_ray at "The Wiz" or "Best Buy", and drools "Wow, what a sharp picture!!!". He buys the unit, takes it home, pops in a standard DVD on his standard TV set, and then wonders where all the extra resolution is.
No, he'll say "Wow I can't believe how amazing this looks" and he'll tell his family he got some brand new blu ray player for $500 and show them and they'll say "Wow it looks great!" and then he'll show a real videophile and they'll say "What the hell is wrong with you, you don't even have an HDTV..." or they'll just smile and say nothing knowing the guy is a moron. People will convince themselves what they're experiencing is the best image ever after they spend a ton of money on a blu ray player, and anyone who is aware that the image quality didn't change, will also be aware of the fact that they need a TV that supports the higher resolutions.
You hit the nail right on the head.
It appears that most people here on slashdot hate Blue-Ray. I understand, but look at the alternative. A Microsoft backed system that will also have the copy protection crap in it.
So for once it looks like a technology that Microsoft hates it going to be the "standard".
It isn't like we have a totally open spec on one side and a DRM closed solution on the other. We the consumers (people that will actually buy a device), have a choice of one evil player or the other. It appears that the better technical solution will win. Also, it appears that a JVM will now become even more widely available, and thus piss off Microsoft even more. Let's be honest now, the ONLY reason Microsoft hates blue-ray is because it contains a JVM. They realize they will not control the living room and thus hate it. They have to be kicking themselves for not waiting a little bit on the new Xbox and shipping a HD-DVD in it.
Again for people that will actually spend money on a new High Definition DVD player, the choices are between one evil empire and the other. One is Microsoft and the other is Sony. Who would you pick?
The more I learn about science, the more my faith in God increases.
Sony dropped a bombshell on it's partners when they stated that the 50gb discs wont be available at launch
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WTF are you smoking?
http://www.tdk-europe.presscentre.com/corp/Releas
13 December 2005
TDK Starts Shipping "Bare" Type Mass-Production Blu-ray Disc Samples
TDK's Blu-ray Discs achieve a high capacity of 25GB on a single-layer and 50GB on a dual-layer at 2x recording speed and are protected by TDK's DURABIS 2 hard coating technology
TDK today announces that is has commenced shipping mass-production samples of its bare-type (cartridge-less) BD-R (write-once type) and BD-RE (rewritable type) Blu-ray Discs. The four new products include:
BD-R25 (write once, single-side, single-layer, 25GB)
BD-R50 (write once, single-side, dual-layer, 50GB)
BD-RE25 (rewritable, single-side, single-layer, 25GB)
BD-RE50 (rewritable, single-side, dual-layer, 50GB)
One company announce shipping of sample isnt the same as being available in decent quantities.
http://videobusiness.com/article/CA6288668.html
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15gb for extras isn't a lot of room at all, especially when a lot of 'special editions' have hours of extras. If the extras are in HD, then they'll be limited to an hour or so. Otherwise, you're talking about having multiple disc sets. And what about when HD TV shows hit the market? 2-3 episodes of Lost per disc plus a few featurettes and it could come out to a 7-8 discs. Kinda like we have now.
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