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Review of WidowPC Sting 917 Gaming Laptop

It is absolutely gigantic. I've never had a laptop this giant. It is huge both in terms of dimensions, weight, and specs. The resolution of this screen is larger than all but one of my desktops. It has more disk space on it's two (yes two) hard drives than any laptop and almost any desktop. It has an honest to god numeric keypad, but it's sitting on my lap. It's the WidowPC Sting 917 and I put it through it's paces, using it as my primary gaming machine for a month. And I write about it below.

Let me start by offering some perspective: most of my gaming is sadly done on a Mac. I have no Mac capable to truly running most modern video games. I always turn the video settings down to just below pathetic, and even then I'm fortunate to get tolerably smooth video. It's just something you sort of learn to accept when you have a Mac. Every game I play on it is just a little short of steller when compared to running on a PC. But my newest Windows capable machine is 3 years old, and a joke by today's standards.

This machine came well equipped: A 3.66ghz P4 w/ 2MB of L2 Cache, 1 gig of 533MHz DDR2 RAM, an Nvidia 6800 Ultra w/ 256MB ram, and not one, but TWO drives, a 60gb 7200 RPM for the OS, and a 100 GB 5400 RPM drive for games. It came in minimal packaging- inside the box was little more than a laptop bag containing the manuals and a few cables. Which is good because all that bloat distracts me from my primary mission: It installed my Warcrack in moments and patched up in probably half the time I was expecting it to take.

With that I hoisted the gigantic beast upon my lap, connected my mouse and began to play. Glorious, lickabley smooth graphics. I turned on every single graphics option and restarted the game, only to discover that there was a level of graphical detail in this game that I didn't know existed. Frames never dropped. Capital cities ceased being slide shows and turned into the bustling metropolis of activity that they are meant to be. 15 man boss fights became liquid fast. In short, having real hardware made my favorite game more fun to play. I'd also like to think it made me a better player, but that might be pushing it.

Likewise the audio gave me a surprising thrill. Walking into rooms and hearing acoustic affects. Voices echoing off walls really give spaces a powerful sense of space. The speakers on this machine are great for laptops. Sure your home stereo sounds better. Hell I bet $50 PC speakers sound better, but for built-ins, it was quite nice.

This new gaming experience does not come without tradeoffs. The first thing you will immediately notice about this monster is the screen. Besides having a 1900x1200 resolution screen, it is incredibly shiny. Frusteratingly so. I found myself closing drapes, turning off lights, and even after that, when I entered a dark room, I'd see my reflection shining back at me. Maybe this is simply a personal preference, but I really struggled to see details in dark scenes. I had to throw the gamma settings way up and sacrifice any contrast to see certain things without straining my eye. This might be the single biggest flaw in the machine.

Next up is weight. This thing is heavy. Everyone I showed this machine to was asked to pick it up. No really, I'd say: pick it up. They'd look at me cockeyed and then comply. Without fail they were surprised at the density of this beast. It was kind of a strange experience, watching people lift and then realize that this thing weighed like 20-30% more than you expect. The website says that this thing weighs 11lbs but it sure felt like more.

The thing is huge. It came with a cheapy little case that fit the laptop quite snuggly, but no other bag in my house came close to carrying it. And I've had some big machines over the years. You should expect to need a custom bag. I never hauled this machine through an airport, but I imagine it would suck wipping this out in security. Even the power cube is gigantic. I've actually had handheld computers about the same size as this thing's power cube.

Also worth noting is heat. There is a giant fan on the left hand side that really does an impressive job of moving the heat outside of the case. And onto whatever is sitting next to you. Let's just say my cats were not so excited to sleep next to me. I've used laptops that were physically uncomfortably hot on the lap, and this machine never got to that point. Instead, it simply would turn off. In the middle of the game. No warning. Very unpleasant. I borrowed a little mini lap desk and then there were no heat problems, provided I left the fans completely unobstructed, and used the machine only on a hard flat surface.

With this giant machine comes a full assortment of ports. And not the miniature custom ports some vendors pass off, but rather full sized real ports without stupid dongles to lose. Of course, since bluetooth and 802.11 is built in, the only port you hopefully will need is power.

The short and long of this machine is that it is heavy and hot. The base model costs $2700 but as I reviewed it, it was more like $3200. And this is one laptop that probably shouldn't be used on your lap: the weight, heat, and random freeze-ups when given improper breathing room pretty well kill that. But if you have the cash to spare, this is a sweet machine. It plays games as well as most any desktop I've seen. It added a level of playability to my favorite game. It has the stones to handle the heaviest 3D games of today, and will likely be able to play the cutting edge games for several weeks into the future. I know most people can't afford a machine like this... but if you can, you'll definitely be envied by your friends next time you haul it out at a LAN party... it's a hell of a lot sexier than lugging around a monitor and a mini-atx based machine. I'm sad to let the review unit go back to WidowPC.

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  1. Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by stupidfoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did I toggle off slashvertisements?

  2. Wheres the picture or links to another review by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its hard to see it without one.

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    1. Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Informative

      Don't worry, I found some pictures

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  3. Here's what I don't understand... by general_re · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With all that shit bolted on to the thing, battery life is surely going to be around eleven seconds once you unplug it - an assumption on my part that's surely confirmed by the fact that neither Taco nor the mfr's website bother to discuss battery time. So why not make it into a luggable computer? Leave off the battery, and shave that lardass down to merely ridiculous levels of heaviness instead of insanely heavy.

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    1. Re:Here's what I don't understand... by hahiss · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, it isn't that bad, I'm using one now to post from a coffee shop and I'm getting fine po

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  4. Link to said laptop by neosake · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here's a link to the sting 917.

    I read teh review, was like ok, it's big, but what's inside?
    Here it is:
    • Choice of nVidia 7800 GTX, ATI x800 , or nVidia Quadro 1400 video cards with 256MB DDR3 memory
    • Intel Desktop Pentium 4 600 Series Extreme Edition CPU with 2MB L2 Cache
    • 17 inch 1900 x 1200 WUXGA+ LCD with ClearView SuperBrite Technology
    • PCI-Express graphics technology
    • Apacer 533Mhz Dual Channel DDR2 RAM
    • Fujitsu SATA and Ultra ATA drives with commanding queuing
    • New 600 series 64 bit P4 w/ 2MB cache
    • Phoenix BIOS
    • Full size keyboard
    • Fully user upgradeable video & CPU
    • Full desktop CPU combined with incredibly fast graphics power
    • More powerful than most desktops
    • TV tuner with remote available
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  5. Off the Mark by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Laptop" is not a valid term for this product, as he mentions in his review. It can be called "portable", but it would not be advisable to place this twelve-pound heat-sterilizer on your lap. Taco mentions it randomly shutting off due to heat.

    That said, who has a lap big enough for it? Let me give you the key points:

    Dimensions: 15.6"(W) x 11.7"(D) x 1.95"(H)
    Weight: 11.3 lbs. with Battery

    That is almost the size of two reams of paper .

    Product Link for reference.

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  6. Made by Clevo by the_cowgod · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looks like this machine is manufactured by Clevo, the Clevo D900T... It's also sold by Alienware (Alienware Area-51 m7700) and probably a few other vendors

  7. Extra Paragraph by inkdesign · · Score: 5, Funny

    To test the battery life, I took a trip on the bus to simulate an average commuter's experience. After 25 minutes, the laptop was dead. When the bus made it back to my stop, I discovered my legs had fallen asleep from the weight! I ended up riding the bus all day, unable to leave my seat, and too afraid to move the computer from my lap, knowing I could not give chase to any potential thief until my legs had recovered.

    This may be the system's biggest flaw.

  8. Sleek, sexy, and *small* would be envied! by garcia · · Score: 4, Funny

    you'll definitely be envied by your friends next time you haul it out at a LAN party... it's a hell of a lot sexier than lugging around a monitor and a mini-atx based machine. I'm sad to let the review unit go back to WidowPC.

    Personally, I would guess that your friends would be far more envious if you had a super sleek machine that wasn't noisy, hot, and HUGE but still offered good graphics, response, and the *possibily* of child rearing if you could get a girl.

    That's me though.

  9. Hmm.. no real information... by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Thanks /.!

    How about some links to real reviews?

    Such as:

    http://laptopmag.com/Review/WidowPC-Sting-917.htm
    http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-23446-x-1-3- 1
    and
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WidowPC+Sting +917+

    While this is an interesting writeup... lack of REAL information AND LINKS makes this kinda pointless (At least he didn't link to his blog that has the same writeup)

  10. Christmas Time Songs fill my mind... by catdevnull · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet that sumbitch gets hotter than a powerbook! The review mentioned that the heat was a problem when it wasn't on a desk. If you prefer "Laptop" play, perhaps it would be best to sing this song whilst playing:

    Chestnuts Roasting While I Open Fire...

    [slashdot readers boo and hiss...]

    (go ahead...mod it down. I've got karma to burn)

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  11. Re:Ummm by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who is this person?

    He's CmdrTaco, 'editor'-in-chief of this 'ere Slashdot.

    Why did they get their free loaner (to advertise here perhaps)

    He's CmdrTaco, 'editor'-in-chief of this 'ere Slashdot.

    ... and why is there no link to anything useful about the machine?

    He's CmdrTaco, 'editor'-in-chief of this 'ere Slashdot. ;-)

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  12. Gaming on a Mac by NtroP · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I always turn the video settings down to just below pathetic, and even then I'm fortunate to get tolerably smooth video. It's just something you sort of learn to accept when you have a Mac.
    Hmmm. I'll admit that the selection of games is not stellar for Macs (and I'm not a hard-core gamer), but when I DO play games on my Mac I crank all my video settings to the max and have no performance problems. I don't "sort of learn to accept [it] when [I] have a Mac". I expect that I have to play a decent game on a decent compuer. My wife's gaming performance (mostly Command & Conquer) on her PowerBook isn't great and she has her settings cranked down, but then, she paid $1,200 for it and did not get it for gaming. I do my gaming on my Dual G5 1.8 with a Radion 9600 XT on a 23" Cinema Display - and my games play fine - and I spent less than $3,400.00 on the whole rig (got the monitor used).

    My desktop Mac is primarily used for video editing and graphics work, but I just find Taco's statement unfortunate, because it just perpetuates the "Macs suck at Gaming" myth. My God, Taco's "laptop" is freakin' $3,400. It sounds like the only thing it has going for it is that it's easy to pack up to a LAN party. You aren't going to pull this out on an Airline tray. The batterly life must suck. It's hot, heavy, not particularly good looking (IMHO). In short, it has almost no features that I would look for in a laptop.

    I don't know, I suppose this kind of bohemoth will probably appeal to the kind of guy who thinks he'll look L33T to everyone around him because he's got the biggest, noisiest, hottest laptop in the room. When in reality the guys with the sleak Vaio's and PowerBooks are just laughing at him.

    The other day I was sitting in a hotel cafe and this guy's struggling to fit his gigantic laptop on his "table-built-for-two" and still have room for his breakfast. He was pounding proudly away on it. I just felt sorry for him because he kept getting dirty looks from the waitress who had to keep stepping over the powercord he'd strung about 10 feet to the wall. I thought about pulling my TiBook out, but that would have just been low.

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