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Windows Gets Independent Security Certification

linumax writes "Microsoft Corp. on Wednesday clinched Common Criteria security certification from the U.S. government's National Information Assurance Partnership for six versions of its flagship Windows OS. The products receiving CC certification include Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2 and Windows XP Embedded with Service Pack 2. Four different versions of Windows Server 2003 also received certification. Common Criteria certification, which was ratified as an international standard in 1999, helps customers in key market segments evaluate IT products when making software purchase decisions and contribute to higher levels of consumer confidence in IT product security, Lipner said. SuSE Linux ES 9 has already achieved the certification and almost a year away from being released, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 is on the path toward EAL4 certification."

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  1. Hehe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's as secure as 95% of the destops out there. That's a good score!

  2. In other news... by deathbyzen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pigs have flown and it's getting a little chilly in Hell.

    1. Re:In other news... by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ah, pigs flying, that would explain all this shit coming down lately...

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  3. Perfect timing by castoridae · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now all the US police departments (that have to use EAL-4 systems) can buy upgrades from Win2000 to XP. Perfect timing, with all that DHS money coming down the pipe right now...

  4. The important thing is the profile. by El+Cubano · · Score: 5, Informative

    I took a security-related class not too long ago. The prof pointed out that the CC is basically worthless. The important thing is the profile. For example, he said most CC certifications are given out for a profile of a system on a friendly network that is not physically accessible to untrusted users. How useful is that?

    He also said something to the effect of: You can claim that your security policy has never been breached, as long as your policy is to not check security.

    The problem is that government perpetuates this by requiring people/companies to spend tons of money on this stuff to get "approved" for government use.

    1. Re:The important thing is the profile. by StikyPad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To be fair, there is really no such thing as a system that can withstand an attacker who has physical access regardless of what OS you're running. Once an attacker has physical access, all bets are off.

    2. Re:The important thing is the profile. by MC68000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How about an encrypted filesystem? How about if there were no ways for this attacker to gain root priveliges from a local login. I really don't understand what you're saying.

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    3. Re:The important thing is the profile. by masdog · · Score: 2, Informative

      1) Social Engineering can get around any encryption or local software security. If a person can get to the restricted machine, chances are they also got all the information they need to access the system.

      2) Unless the machine has no floppy drives, USB ports, or CD-ROMs, a live CD would allow an attacker with physical access to the machine to boot, image the hard drive to an external device (like an IPOD) and decrypt it later.

      There are ways around any security. Sometimes, it is just a little more time consuming.

    4. Re:The important thing is the profile. by masdog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      On a small scale, you're right. Some of this stuff is out of the reach of most ordinary attackers. Social engineering, especially on the scale that would be required to reach "secure" government, industry, or criminal computers, would be an enormous undertaking for most groups looking to get this information.

      However, I think that organizations like the CIA, KGB, Mossad, and other big-time intelligence agencies would go through that kind of effort to socially engineer access to systems.

      If you can get physical access to the secure computer, chances are you know about the BIOS passwords and somehow acquired them.

      As for decrypting the drive once the image is on the IPOD, I'm not sure how you would do that. It would take a lot of computing power to do it, so I'm guessing that unless you can get it to the NSA, you'll be spending a long time trying to read the drive.

    5. Re:The important thing is the profile. by general_re · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Social engineering, especially on the scale that would be required to reach "secure" government, industry, or criminal computers, would be an enormous undertaking for most groups looking to get this information.

      I think you underestimate (or overlook entirely) the efficacy of low-tech methods of social engineering. If I have possession of your secure computer, and the information on it is valuable enough to me, I'll just fucking beat the password/token/keycard/whatever out of you.

      Sadism trumps encryption, which is why physical security is a critical part of any security scheme.

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    6. Re:The important thing is the profile. by Asphixiat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      BIOS passwords are useless, there are Master passwords for most makes and models :)

      go here and find yours today:

      http://www.biosflash.com/e/bios-passwords.htm :)

    7. Re:The important thing is the profile. by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To paraphrase Schneier, it's important to answer the question, "Secure against what? Secure from whom?" I doubt your encrypted filesystem is going to be secure against someone dropping a grenade on the CPU, for example.

    8. Re:The important thing is the profile. by TrappedByMyself · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It may be possible two break into any system if you have physical accesss, it is however not possible without rebooting the machine. That means that there ARE security policies that will withstand physical access. E.g. In my security class the idea was launched to encrypt stuff in special ways, and to have a key deletion schedule that will allow you to 1) determine the smallest possible window of time when the system was broken 2) prevent an attacker from inserting messages into the system, even with root access to the system. If he reboots, the key will have been deleted, the system will not be able to read its own data, and will not be able to communicate with the rest of the network 3) if the encrypted data is accessible in any way, it can be made possible to check against forgeries, and still accept the data generated before the breach (the data might have been deleted of course)

      Fine, then yank the power cord, bust open the case and remove the drive. Pop a USB adapter on it and plug it into another machine. Now you can start working on getting the data without having to boot from the drive or without any other part of the system getting in the way.
      Or, just have the person who gave you physical access log in for you.

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    9. Re:The important thing is the profile. by TrueKonrads · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about you install key-logger and wait for the fireworks? Any kind of physical security that can be trusted upon is hard to obtain. The IBM 4758 PCI Cryptographic Coprocessor is used in environments where it is important to prevent tampering. It has been said many times before, that the only way to have a "secure" environment is to guard all access points with armed marines. This, naturally, is not feasible and physical security will always be an easy point of attack. Thus, the grand-parents post is valid.

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  5. Of course... by Chris+Bradshaw · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who don't have the foggiest... More info on Common Criteria Certification can be found Here

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  6. Amazing... by musawilliams · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You pay someone off to give you a cert, then, in the same breath, announce another security vulnerability .

    1. Re:Amazing... by KrispyKringle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If I remember right, there is a certification fee. Of course, that makes sense, since certifying an OS costs the certifier. But you're not saying that; you're implying that MS payed a bribe to get certified.

      Care to back that up with references? Or is this just typical Slashdot trolling?

  7. I hereby announce this.. by mnmn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am officially releasing my certification of "The Highest Level Of Security", and giving it to my pet OS, ELKS!

    Therefore, ELKS is the most secure OS in the world.

    The press meeting will be at 24:01 December 31st.

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  8. From TFA by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful
    During the certification review, Lipner said the various versions of Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 were evaluated in more than 20 real-world scenarios or "workloads" in a testing lab. It includes rigorous and exhaustive testing at the source-code level to determine certifications, he explained.

    Critics of Common Criteria certification say the ratings are not a true reflection of the secure nature of a product in general purpose situations because it does not take every general-purpose situation into account.
    No certification process is going to take every situation into account. Windows would never get certified if that was the case. Neither would anything else with a TCP stack.

    I'm just mentioning this to help cut off some of the anti-MS crap that's going to get modded up as insightful.

    Using Internet Explorer is still a bit like playing Russian Roulette perfect, but the security of Windows has come a long way.
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    1. Re:From TFA by NutscrapeSucks · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not to mention that Windows does have certain security features that are simply not present in standard Unix.

      For example, an administrator can be denied access to a file. The admin can change the ACLs by taking ownership, but doing this generates a log event. Deleting the logs generates another log event. AFAIK, it's impossible to restrict the unix superuser in this way.

      Probably not important in most environments, but for government-type security it can be.

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    2. Re:From TFA by plsuh · · Score: 4, Informative

      For example, an administrator can be denied access to a file. The admin can change the ACLs by taking ownership, but doing this generates a log event. Deleting the logs generates another log event. AFAIK, it's impossible to restrict the unix superuser in this way.

      You're comparing an administrator user (which is a preset level of privilege on Windows) with the root user on a Un*x system, which is apples to oranges. The root user on Un*x is more properly compared to the LocalSystem account on Windows. The key difference is that the LocalSystem account never has a password so you can never log in as LocalSystem. However, many Un*x systems (e.g. Mac OS X) also have root accounts that don't have a password (and thus you cannot log in as root) or at least disallow remote root logins, giving them similar levels of account protection.

      In fact, the restrictions on the default administrator account on Windows are weaker than those given to administrator accounts on Mac OS X -- a Windows admin can write to \Windows\System32 without elevated privileges, which pretty much means game over if the attacker can get the admin to execute a script (e.g. through a browser flaw) that puts DLL's into the directory. In contrast, a a Mac OS X admin needs to authenticate and temporarily gain elevated privileges to write to the equivalent location, /System/Library. Even if an attacker fools a Mac OS X admin into running a script, there is still the need to authenticate which gives the admin a chance to halt the attack.

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    3. Re:From TFA by drsmithy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The root user on Un*x is more properly compared to the LocalSystem account on Windows.

      There is no real comparison, because the security models are fundamentally different.

      In unix, if you're root, you can do anything. "Security" checks basically start with an "if (UID != 0)".

      In Windows, all accounts are subject to ACLs. Some accounts have more generous ACLs than others, but there is no equivalent to the "can do anything"-ness of a unix root account.

      In fact, the restrictions on the default administrator account on Windows are weaker than those given to administrator accounts on Mac OS X -- a Windows admin can write to \Windows\System32 without elevated privileges, which pretty much means game over if the attacker can get the admin to execute a script (e.g. through a browser flaw) that puts DLL's into the directory. In contrast, a a Mac OS X admin needs to authenticate and temporarily gain elevated privileges to write to the equivalent location, /System/Library.

      This comparison is flawed. An "Administrator" account in OS X is a completely different thing to an "Administrator" account in Windows - not only in concept, but also in execution. An OS X admin account is more properly compared to a "Power User" in Windows - but even then the two are still very different due to the different security models. An OS X "admin" account is simply one that can sudo to root - thus giving it complete control over the entire machine, with no further permissions checks performed at all. Since Windows has no equivalent of root, it has no equivalent to an OS X "Administrator" user. A "Power User" is similar in purpose (limited administrative abilities, but can't destroy the machine wantonly), but very different in execution.

    4. Re:From TFA by drsmithy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I can attest to that as well. Windows is fairly secure except MSFT made IE such an integral part of Windows. You end up with a situation where Windows is secure but the most accessible and vulnerable part of it can get you right past all those defense. It's akin to putting a screen door on a vault.

      Bollocks. IE is normal user space code just like Firefox or Word. It can't do anything more than any other code running under that user account can.

      The "integration" of IE - in and of itself - doesn't make Windows any less secure, any more than the equivalent functionality in KDE, GNOME or OS X does. The real problem is that IE is full of holes and most people run it as admin, not that IE is "integrated into the OS".

    5. Re:From TFA by asuffield · · Score: 2, Informative

      From my (admittedly limited) understanding of this part of the Windows security model, anybody with "Administrators" access or better can install device drivers into the kernel. This is a piece of software that runs in kernel space, with no security restrictions at all. The 'restrictions' you are talking about apply only to non-driver software. So there's your "can do anything"-ness.

  9. Tiger? by jmcmunn · · Score: 3, Interesting


    As a Windows user considering the switch to the Intel Mac's coming soon, I'm curious if Tiger (OS 10.4.4 or whatever) has gotten this certification? I know the argument is that you're more secure no matter what since no one writes spyware etc for the Mac, but is it certified? I'm honestly curious, so I know what I'm in for.

    1. Re:Tiger? by Twid · · Score: 2, Informative
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  10. trusted != secure by evenprime · · Score: 4, Informative
    Pay attention to what the linked wikipedia story says:
    Higher EAL levels do not necessarily imply "better security", they only mean that the claimed security assurance of the TOE has been more extensively validated.


    This just means that it does what they claim. I'd be more interested in seeing what the security claims were....

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  11. Boy... by Beatbyte · · Score: 2, Funny

    They're giving these things out to ANYBODY.

  12. Does this actually mean anything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this certification actually mean anything, or is this just yet another Microsoft maneuver to be able to a government/corporate entity "See, we meet specification XXX that you demand software that you use have."

    Microsoft did this with POSIX support for Windows NT; NT's Posix is next-to-useless (they don't have fork(), for example) but Microsoft got it so that they could tell the relevant people "See, NT is posix-aware."

    Another example: Internet Explorer for Solaris. Probably one of the most horrible browsers out there; Microsoft only did it so companies that said "We standardize on one browser for all users" could standardize on IE. Microsoft had no real intention of supporting Solaris.

    In fact, I will go so far to say that Microsoft's proposed "open document format" doesn't exist because Microsoft has any intention of opening up their format, but so that Microsoft can meet Massachusetts' requirement to have an "open" format. This is why Massachusetts should continue to tell Microsoft that they will not use Office Vista until it supports the Open Document standard.

    So this doesn't sound like a typical anti-Microsoft post, I will say that Microsoft products are far easier to learn than the Linux equivalents, and that Microsoft made some beautiful fonts the blow away anything for Linux.

  13. What does EAL4 mean? by danFL-NERaves · · Score: 5, Informative

    Copied verbatim from the Common Criteria v2.1 specification. I can't make heads nor tails of it:

    Evaluation assurance level 4 (EAL4) - methodically designed, tested, and reviewed

    Objectives

    EAL4 permits a developer to gain maximum assurance from positive security engineering based on good commercial development practices which, though rigorous, do not require substantial specialist knowledge, skills, and other resources. EAL4 is the highest level at which it is likely to be economically feasible to retrofit to an existing product line.

    EAL4 is therefore applicable in those circumstances where developers or users require a moderate to high level of independently assured security in conventional commodity TOEs and are prepared to incur additional security-specific engineering costs.

    Assurance components

    EAL4 (see Table 6.5) provides assurance by an analysis of the security functions, using a functional and complete interface specification, guidance documentation, the high-level and low-level design of the TOE, and a subset of the implementation, to understand the security behaviour. Assurance is additionally gained through an informal model of the TOE security policy.

    The analysis is supported by independent testing of the TOE security functions, evidence of developer testing based on the functional specification and high-level design, selective independent confirmation of the developer test results, strength of function analysis, evidence of a developer search for vulnerabilities, and an independent vulnerability analysis demonstrating resistance to penetration attackers with a low attack potential.

    EAL4 also provides assurance through the use of development environment controls and additional TOE configuration management including automation, and evidence of secure delivery procedures.

    This EAL represents a meaningful increase in assurance from EAL3 by requiring more design description, a subset of the implementation, and improved mechanisms and/or procedures that provide confidence that the TOE will not be tampered with during development or delivery.

    Assurance class
            Assurance components
    Class ACM: Configuration management
            ACM_AUT.1 Partial CM automation
            ACM_CAP.4 Generation support and acceptance procedures
            ACM_SCP.2 Problem tracking CM coverage
    Class ADO: Delivery and operation
            ADO_DEL.2 Detection of modification
            ADO_IGS.1 Installation, generation, and start-up procedures
    Class ADV: Development
            ADV_FSP.2 Fully defined external interfaces
            ADV_HLD.2 Security enforcing high-level design
            ADV_IMP.1 Subset of the implementation of the TSF
            ADV_LLD.1 Descriptive low-level design
            ADV_RCR.1 Informal correspondence demonstration
            ADV_SPM.1 Informal TOE security policy model
    Class AGD: Guidance documents
            AGD_ADM.1 Administrator guidance
            AGD_USR.1 User guidance
    Class ALC: Life cycle support
            ALC_DVS.1 Identification of security measures
            ALC_LCD.1 Developer defined life-cycle model
            ALC_TAT.1 Well-defined development tools
    Class ATE: Tests
            ATE_COV.2 Analysis of coverage
            ATE_DPT.1 Testing: high-level design
            ATE_FUN.1 Functional testing
            ATE_IND.2 Independent testing - sample
    Class AVA: Vulnerability assessment
            AVA_MSU.2 Validation of analysis
            AVA_SOF.1 Strength of TOE security function evaluation
            AVA_VLA.2 Independent vulnerability analysis

    1. Re:What does EAL4 mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      ...demonstrating resistance to penetration attackers with a low attack potential.

      Does this mean that it can defeat an attack that is most likely not going to succeed?

      Wow. Just wow.

    2. Re:What does EAL4 mean? by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Man, that just list looks just like assembler op-codes for some kind of bizarre processor.

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  14. Soon to hit news stands by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 5, Funny

    "This just in: Businesses and Government IT Professionals quickly abandon Common Criteria security certification as a security standard of any useful purpose."

    From Wikipedia on a previous certification: "The fact that Microsoft Windows 2000 remains an ISO 15408 certified product, without including the application of any Microsoft security vulnerability patches in its evaluated configuration, shows both the limitation and strength of an evaluated configuration."

    I believe that it also shows the limitation and inherent weakness of this criteria as a "security" certification or a confidence booster for consumers. Unless, of course, anyone here reasonably believes that any completely unpatched version of Windows is secure by any stretch of the imagination. I read about a machine like that once that never needed patching... it was unplugged from the net, stripped of all peripherals, dipped in molten lead, and buried inside 10m^3 of concrete and dropped into the middle of the ocean, thus becoming the most secure PC ever. I think it ran FreeBSD, too.

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    1. Re:Soon to hit news stands by GotenXiao · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is no secure Windows box. There are only partially secure Windows boxes.

      And, a default Windows install can be connected to the net with no firewall, NAT or proxy, or any AV software for like 8 seconds before becoming infected with Skynet and its kin.

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  15. Take long? by StikyPad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, it only took 4 years to finally certify XP. Although I guess that's not bad when you consider that in another 4 years they'll have Vista to start evaluating.

  16. Not secure enough by David+Gould · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should have used OpenBSD.

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    1. Re:Not secure enough by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 3, Interesting
      They should have used OpenBSD.

      Actually if you want to get serious about it they should use a "Trusted" OS like Trusted Solaris or similar OS that uses mandatory access controls. OpenBSD does not have support for that in the base configuration the last time I checked, although it is probably sufficient for general purpose computing.

    2. Re:Not secure enough by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You can achieve something close to MAC in OpenBSD. If you disable root login, and use systrace for everything that needs elevated privileges (privilege escalation on a per-syscall basis). You can also run at securelevel 1 or 2, so no one can modify files marked as immutable.

      If you really want MAC though, TrustedBSD was merged back with FreeBSD in the 5.x branch, and is there in the latest releases. I seem to recall that Solaris 10 and Trusted Solaris now use the same codebase too, so that's another option as you said.

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  17. CCS = Entry Level certification; CCS profiles need by dananderson · · Score: 4, Informative
    The Common Criterial Security (CCS) Certification is good, but not great. It's equivalent to Entry-level certification. Yes, it's the highest Entry-level certification, but other Operating Systems, such as Linux, Solaris, and other UNIX flavors have long had it.

    What's important is CCS Profiles, which allow one to tune the OS to the security level you need ("one size does not fit all"). AFAIK, MS Windows does not have profiles.

    That's said, it's great that Microsoft is starting to get serious about security.

  18. Smiley faces for everyone !! by Chaffar · · Score: 2, Funny
    According to Wikipedia:
    Its purpose is to allow users to specify their security requirements, to allow developers to specify the security attributes of their products, and to allow evaluators to determine if products actually meet their claims.

    So, who sets the security requirements? Does this certification have any value, or is it the equivalent of "smiley faces for everyone"?
    [National Information Assurance Partnership] So, what are your security requirements?
    [Bribed Official] I need to be able to install ro0tkits without the user's approval...
    [National Information Assurance Partnership] Excellent... EAL 4+ for all!


  19. Mac OS X 10.3.6 is Common Criteria certified by DrZiplok · · Score: 5, Informative
  20. there is no way there can be no way... by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Once you have access to the machine, you can always break into it. Yeah, an encrypted file system will slow people down a lot.

    But if the machine can boot itself and access that disk, then the machine itself contains all the information needed to decrypt the data on the disk. And thus someone can break into it by definition. It may be difficult, but it's certainly possible.

    This is why Kerberos key granters are locked away.

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  21. Audit by jawahar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has anyone done windows source code audit?

  22. What EAL4 means... by [ByteMe] · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is the short-form explanation. If you somehow decide to care about this more seriously, aside from seeking professional help I would recommend that you consult the Book of Armaments...er...the *real* CC site: http://csrc.nist.gov/cc/

    Each of the areas that Common Criteria cares about has an extensive set of "things in this area about which we care" that is the source of the ADO_IGS.1 (&c) items above. For a software item such as an OS, think of those as "claims".

    For any area, the EAL just shows the level to which a "claim" has been examined and therefore can be proven. EAL 1 is basically "I read your marketing puff piece, and it sounds really good!". At a different extreme, EAL 5 is pretty close to "I did everything I could to review your code and attack your system, and I still couldn't get in". Unsurprisingly, most software falls somewhere in between. Surprisingly (or not), some software (particularly OSs) might go at EAL 3 or 4 but will still have holes. Why, one might ask? (!)

    Unfortunately, it's because CC actually expects (but does not assume) that software authors did their jobs thoroughly--including not injecting unintentional bugs. Any bug that does not match the stated intent of a chunk of code, and which doesn't get caught on a code review (which might or might not happen during CC eval, but if it does should only repeat processes in place at the software vendor) would look to most of us like a HOLY CRAP VULNERABILITY -- but the CC process doesn't directly account for it in evaluating and certifying software. Is that a flaw? Yes. At the same time, if one wants to go out and procure an OS that supports an essential set of features related to user authentication, CC is more likely to provide an OS that implements that set. It doesn't mean that a CC-evaluated OS is the most secure, but it has a specific set of functions that can be shown to work.

    I know that probably sounds like a steaming pile to some folks...but for one set of evaluation criteria, the above means that CC evaluation is good and nothing else quite takes the place. In an ideal world, CC evaluation would be only one data point in a decision to procure a product, along with other measures of effectiveness that can more truly show fitness of particular software for a particular purpose.

  23. EAL means nothing without PP (they've got one!) by McMuffin+Man · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you who haven't done Common Criteria, a few clarifications:

    EAL stands for "Evaluation Assurance Level". Your EAL level describes the degree to which you demonstrated your claims. It says almost nothing about what those claims are. It's an exaggeration to say you could get EAL 4 on a brick by claiming that it would stay put when you dropped it, but not a big one.

    The claims are contained in your Security Target (ST), which is a series of claims about the Target of Evaluation (ToE). Your ST doesn't necessarily have to include many claims relevant to good security, and your ToE can exclude many subsystems and capabilities of the system being certified. To use a pre-CC example, Windows NT got an Orange Book certification by specifying that the certified system could not be connected to a network.

    If you want to adhere to a standard that tries to verify that your ToE includes capabilities that make your device useful and that your ST makes claims which really mean something about the security properties of device, you demonstrate compliance with a published Protection Profile (PP). In the US, there are a series of PP's published . These PP's describe relevant capabilities and security properties for systems used in various roles (for example, a traffic filter firewall for low risk environments).

    Without a PP, the only way to know what that EAL 4+ actually means is to closely read the ToE and the ST to figure out just how thin they sliced the salami.

    Having said all that, a tiny bit of research confirms that Microsoft actually certified these systems against the Controlled Access PP. This is a basic robustness standard (by comparison, Red Hat Linux 5 is also certified against the Labeled Security PP and the Role Based Access Control PP, which assert more robust security capabilities), but it's quite a bit more than nothing, and quite a bit more than many companies do to get their "we do Common Criteria" marketing claim.

    Color me impressed.

  24. The "common criteria" are very weak by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative
    NSA originally had the Orange Book security standards, which ranged from class C1 (Discretionary access protection, i.e. standard UNIX), up to class A1 (formally verified mandatory protection). These were serious security standards, issued in 1985. Compliance was tough, and testing was by NSA. But A few systems passed testing. Trusted Xenix made it to level B2. The WANG SCOMP, a special-purpose secure machine, made it to level A1 in 1984. That was the high water mark of operating system security.

    Vendors hated this process. First, the vendors didn't control the test process - the National Security Agency's Central Security Service did. NSA's policy back then was that you got two tries to pass validation. On the first try, the vendor was told of problems found, and given a chance to fix them. The second try was strictly pass/fail, and might include tests that the vendor had never seen. So it was quite possible, and common, for products to flunk and be cut out of procurements.

    The Common Criteria process, on the other, hand, is conducted by third party labs paid by the vendor. So they're very "responsive" to the vendor.

    The "Common Criteria" are comparable to the class C Orange Book standards. They're very weak. There was heavy lobbying by the computer industry to water down the Orange Book standards, and that lobbying was successful.

    The evaluation report for Windows XP is online. It's worth reading, even though it's long.

  25. Common Criteria by LeFrame · · Score: 3, Informative

    Do check out this link: "Understanding the Windows EAL4 Evaluation" It is about the testing of Windows 2000 sp3, but it is still a very valid description of the problem with CAPP/EAL4. Rounded up: "The CAPP provides for a level of protection which is appropriate for an assumed non-hostile and well-managed user community requiring protection against threats of inadvertent or casual attempts to breach the system security. The profile is not intended to be applicable to circumstances in which protection is required against determined attempts by hostile and well funded attackers to breach system security. The CAPP does not fully address the threats posed by malicious system development or administrative personnel. Translating that into colloquial English: Don't hook this to the internet, don't run email, don't install software unless you can 100% trust the developer, and if anybody who works for you turns out to be out to get you you are toast. - An EAL4 rating means that you did a lot of paperwork related to the software process, but says absolutely nothing about the quality of the software itself. There are no quantifiable measurements made of the software, and essentially none of the code is inspected. Buying software with an EAL4 rating is kind of like buying a home without a home inspection, only more risky."

  26. LocalSystem can be restricted too by toadlife · · Score: 2, Interesting

    LocalSystem is granted everything by default, but restrictions can be put on it, and LocalSystem can't ignore restrictions put on it like root can in Unix. There really is no comparison to *nix root account in Windows.

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  27. Re:Infinite recursion? by toadlife · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you clear the security log in windows, the log is cleared and then an entry is put in that says you cleared the log. You can clear the log a million times over and there will allwats be one entry at the beggining saying that "you cleared the log".

    You can't delete the logs....okay, well you [i]can[/i] (I think), by stopping...err, KILLING....the event log service, but another policy can be put into place that causes the system to shut down immidiately if the system is unable to log security events. You could change the policy, but then that would generate a log entry too, and you would have to kill the event log service and then delete log to get rid of that which would clear all of the other events too.....

    In situations where security is paramount, a third party in your organization will be auditing the security logs and if you cleared them to cover something up, a large chunk of time would be missing from the logs. This would raise reg flags.

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  28. worthless by penguin-collective · · Score: 2, Insightful

    CC, like other such certifications, is a checklist of features: it requires systems to have lots of security features. Satisfying such a checklist doesn't tell you anything about whether a system is actually secure, it supposedly tells you about whether you can or cannot implement complex security procedures. But it doesn't even tell you that because there is no guarantee that the features work and interact as intended, and, on the other hand, systems not formally satisfying the requirements may still support your security procedures.

    Companies like Microsoft love standards like CC because they don't have to provide actual security, they just have to add lots of features to their operating system, and Microsoft is great at adding features.

    If you want to achieve real security, your best bet is to remove as much unnecessary functionality from a system as possible, and that includes a lot of the junk that CC requires.

  29. Primer by Tom · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those not in-the-know on CC:

    EAL4+ is a fairly high level, and not easy to reach. This was serious work and money invested for M$.

    However, do keep in mind that CC is much more about assurance than about security. In fact, most (and in many cases the most difficult to meet) requirements are in the development and documentation areas.

    What EAL4+ does mean is that windos isn't a quickly hacked together bundle of hogwash (even though it looks like that at times), but was systematically developed, using version control software and systematic testing as well as being extensively documented.
    Usually, this goes together with a higher software quality, and high software quality usually means higher security.

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  30. Ow...Ow...Ow...Ow by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Funny
    an international standard in 1999, helps customers in key market segments evaluate IT products when making software purchase decisions and contribute to higher levels of consumer confidence in IT product security,

    Ouch! Oh, great. Now I have...Ouch!...monkies flying out of my butt. Ouch!

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  31. Windows is 100% secure, but not 100% safe. by master_p · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Windows protocols can not be breached in any way, therefore making Windows 100% secure systems. But the Windows O/S is not 100% safe, due to bugs in critical libraries and wrong default settings. A properly patched and configured Windows system is as safe as any Unix box, but the complex security model of Windows makes it far easier to be breached.

  32. Where to look by kaaona · · Score: 2, Informative

    One may argue the technical merits of CAPP/EAL certifications, but serious competitors in the federal IT market simply can't afford not to make the large investments in time and money to get them. Anyone interested in the details can explore:

    http://niap.nist.gov/cc-scheme/in_evaluation.html
    http://niap.nist.gov/cc-scheme/vpl/vpl_type.html