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After Brief Respite Music Industry Slump Deepens

Carl Bialik from the WSJ writes "Sales picked up for the record labels late last year, but 2005 has been bleak. The Wall Street Journal ticks off evidence: 'During the crucial Thanksgiving week, for instance, the top 10 albums sold 40% fewer copies than the top 10 albums the same week in 2004. ... Sales of individual digital tracks on services like Apple Computer Inc.'s iTunes Music Store have increased -- but not nearly enough to offset the slide in CD sales. According to an estimate from SoundScan, overall sales of recorded music are down about 4.5%, if one considers 10 individual tracks the equivalent of an album.' The WSJ also lists familiar reasons for the decline -- 'online piracy, CD burning, high prices and competition for consumer dollars from videogames and DVDs' -- while adding, 'Lately, people in the music industry have said the same basic issues have been intensified by the growing popularity of pricey gadgets like Apple's iPod and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360, as well as the rising prices for games that go with the new platform.'"

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  1. Getting Old by Amouth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if they ever thought about the Quality of the music they sell??

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    1. Re:Getting Old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      This just in...

      Music piracy is also down a whopping 69% for the same week in 2004.

      Not only are they not able to peddle their overpriced crap on us but now their overpriced crap is so bad that it doesn't even inspire us to steal it from them.

    2. Re:Getting Old by mochan_s · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I wonder if they ever thought about the Quality of the music they sell??

      As equipment prices fall, more people have tools to create better music. A lot of stuff out there is simply amazing but just a good distribution, reviewing and cataloging service is missing.

      MP3.com was going towards that but was torpedoed and killed off. You could check your local bar listing for bands playing in the month and find their mp3s on mp3.com. Sometimes, you'd find stuff that was simply amazing.

      RIAA and the big music distribution is simply snuffing the real good music. I mean the TV-series tied starlet singer with lewd videos with movie tie in are all good for a certain demographic but it's useless for most of the people. Websites like allmusic.com are a step in the direction but lack strength to store songs in decent quality and rely too much on a few professional reviewers who sometimes get it very wrong.

      Anyway, it's the atrocious musicians who make all the money and most others who make no money that is really terrible. There is no graduated system for good bands to rise up. It's just who gets picked up. Most local bands have to create their own posters, promo materials and have to do their own booking.

      The British music scene is so much better. The American scene has to many dinosaurs and defunct genres still raking it in. The American press is really terrible with music as well.

    3. Re:Getting Old by knarf · · Score: 5, Interesting
      TFA does not mention what the industry suits think on that subject but it does contain the following quotes:
      But many retailers and label executives alike point to a more fundamental problem this year: A lack of hit acts. Don VanCleave, president of the Coalition of Independent Music Stores, says blame lies with "an absolute, gigantic cesspool of really bad bands."
      ...
      "It's almost like we need a new genre of music," says John Sullivan, chief financial officer of Trans World Entertainment Corp., which operates music stores under the FYE and Coconuts names, among others. "There hasn't been anything fresh to get consumers excited in a while."
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  2. Music Worth Buying by kjkobes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Could it be that the music industry is just putting 40% less desirable music? When it comes to new CDs and artists, there hasn't been all that much growth over the past year.

    1. Re:Music Worth Buying by node+3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Could it be that the music industry is just putting 40% less desirable music?

      Prior to iTunes, if you wanted to buy the few good songs on a CD, you had to buy the whole CD. Now you can just buy those few good songs. The drop in sales, I'd bet, is largely affected by people no longer buying the music they really didn't want in the first place.

  3. Piracy by Jarlsberg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, there's other reasons than "online piracy" that leads to declined sales of music. Heh, it won't be long until RIAA either demands a halt in the sale of high priced gadgets such as the Ipod and the Xbox360, or demands a portion of the income from the sales. ;)

    1. Re:Piracy by hey! · · Score: 5, Informative

      Heh, it won't be long until RIAA either demands a halt in the sale of high priced gadgets such as the Ipod... or demands a portion of the income from the sales

      I wouldn't be surprised if it comes to royalties. It's not like it hasn't been done before with blank media.

      However, they'd be stupider than I think they are if they demanded a halt to iPod sales. Legal downloads are the only place where sales are growing. And it's not because people want to pirate iTunes. Consumers don't want much really. They just want to be able to find the music they want, not what the retail store managers think will sell. They want to be able to buy just that music. And they want to be able to play it anywhere.

      Taken to its logical conclusion, this is good for music, but not necessarily good for the companies that are leading in the industry today.

      The logical conclusion is that people will be able to saturate their lives with music. A lot of people are close to the point of needing earbuds surgically implanted anyway. Take those people, multiply their numbers by ten or more, and you have a very happy scenario for producers of music.

      On the other hand, the "music" companies are not producers of music by in large. They're mainly distributors of music. They control the supply chain to the record shops. The have scales of production on physical media. They have muscle with radio airtime. All of these advantages are reduced or nullified by on-line distribution, unless they can control the playback platform (which Microsoft won't allow them to, and Microsoft is a key gatekeeper because it controls the majority of PCs).

      If a day comes when nearly all music is sold on-line, then the reason for the existence of most of the music company's functions are gone. Local entrepreneurs will provide studios and production assistance for an hourly fee, and bands will offer their work directly to the audience through online services. The only irreplaceable value left in the companies are their portfolio of older copyrighted works. They will not be able to add to the value of their portfolio in any significant way, and copyrights ever expire again they'll be in deep trouble. They may be able to buy some copyrights from bands before the bands become successful, but ore and more bands will become independently successful.

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  4. Quality Control by chickenmilkbomb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maybe they should look at the top 10 grossing tours (US) from this year. According to Billboard they are:

    1. U2 ($260M)
    2. The Eagles ($117M)
    3. Neil Diamond ($71M)
    4. Kenny Chesney ($63M)
    5. Sir Paul Mccartney ($60M)
    6. Rod Stewart ($49M)
    7. Elton John ($45.5M)
    8. Dave Matthews Band ($45M)
    9. Jimmy Buffett ($41M)
    10. Green Day ($36.5M)

    Hmm...I'm not sure about Kenny Chesney, but all of the other acts are at least 10 years old. I hate the Eagles as much as the next guy, but the mass marketed music today is Busch League, laughable.

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    1. Re:Quality Control by Basje · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is exactly the problem the record companies are pointing at. The most important group (for them) does not buy music anymore: young people.

      When we were younger we used to buy CD's (or records for that matter). We bought more than our parents. We still buy CD's, but less than we used to. This is known phenomenon: the older one becomes, the less music is bought.

      Youngsters should buy more CD's than us older folk, according to pre internet expectations. That used to be the case. Nowadays, young people don't buy CD's anymore, they download. The older people's acquisitions still make up the tops of the charts.

      The record companies obviously want to reverse this process. The above mention of horse carriages is spot on in that respect.

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  5. Maybe.. by SillySnake · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps they just lost a file with part of the sales listed in it..
    I think it was named $sys$Sales.txt or something like that..

  6. This is a Good Thing! by node+3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the market correcting itself. As the stranglehold the labels have over the music market wanes, the proper balance between listeners, artists and labels will be struck. As it is now, the labels wield far too much power. They definitely play a valuable role, and deserve the chance to make a profit, but their current model depends on certain inefficiencies (where they can most significatly exert control) which no longer exist.

    This process of seeking a more equitable equilibrium is too slow, but it's definitely going in the right direction.

  7. missing the obvious ... by bani · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The WSJ also lists familiar reasons for the decline -- 'online piracy, CD burning, high prices and competition for consumer dollars from videogames and DVDs'

    And of course they (deliberately?) omit the #1 reason:

    shit product

    They'll still blame the #1 reason on piracy though.

    1. Re:missing the obvious ... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 5, Insightful
      And the No2 reason... The CDs won't play in a car because of DRM

      And the No 3 reason... Mummy wont let me play CDs in the computer cos the rootkit trashed it last time!

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  8. Fucking statistics by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:

    This year, though, there's little Christmas cheer to go around. During the crucial Thanksgiving week, for instance, the top 10 albums sold 40% fewer copies than the top 10 albums the same week in 2004

    All this means is the top 10 albums sold less this year than they did last year, that is not the same as a decline in CD sales or an industry slump.

    If this year only 10 albums were available to buy, from anywhere, this years top 10 whould have had huge sales compared to last years top 10, but I'd be willing to bet there would definatly be less profits than last year.

    Each year more and more CDs are put out and made available to the public. Surely the way to indicate a slump would be to release the total number of CDs sold in that week, or the total profits made by the music industry that week, and compare them.

    For all we know, those same top 10 albums could have had record sales for every other week in the year, and now everyone in the world has a copy, the only people buying them are those that want 2 copies :o

    It seems the music industry/RIAA has just employed some statistics experts to check the numbers and find anything that could be used to indicate a down turn, whether true or not.

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  9. Re:The CD is dead by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The CD is not dead. It's still a convenient and relatively durable medium, much like a book. E-books have been around for years and you don't see them supplanting the real thing. In my inexpert opinion, this sharp decline in CD sales is attributable to a general stagnation in popular music styles, the aforementioned competition from other kinds of entertainment, and perhaps also widespread disgust with the music cartel.

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  10. Re:The CD is dead by dbIII · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Get with the times..
    They can't get with the times. Elvis has to be a white man playing black mans music, and the attitude still didn't change so Vanilla Ice and Eminem followed. It's not racism, it's ultra-conservatism.

    Back in the late 1980's an import record shop in my area had the idea of putting together compilations on the fly for customers and burning them onto CD. The technology was available if expensive at the time, and the intention was to pay royalties to the copyright holders for the tracks which required just a really simple database. I suspect local agents for the record companies involved quite liked the idea, because it got as far as a press release - but then apparently threats of legal action followed. Only now, more than fifteen years later, a PC manufacturer is making a lot of money doing effectively the same thing with iTunes. In the meantime people have been burning their own music compilations for many years - one thing which long record company inspired delays in the release of consumer CD burners did not stop.

    They are not going to move with the times - it may just look like they will because they may be bought out by groups that do. The studios are as bad/worse/often the same people - the long delay of consumer DVD burners is evidence of that and hopefully they won't hold up newer formats for as long.

  11. This is just like if... by Oldsmobile · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Sales of horse drawn carriages have slumped. Horse drawn carriage manufacturers are worried about the increased use of horseless carriages and are hoping to pass legislation making it a requirement for everyone to have a horse infront of their carriage."

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  12. Re:The CD is dead by raventh1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to mention that Albums are now a way to take over your computer.

    My non-expert eyes are seeing an interesting trend correlation between not just copy protection, but public awareness of copy-protection on cds and the decline of sales.

    If you start taking away options from the customer without any added bonus you will start losing customers.

  13. Re:10 tracks from itunes != 1 CD Album by nathanh · · Score: 5, Insightful
    An average CD album will not contain more than two or three good tracks while the rest will be useless.

    Perhaps the problem is that you keep buying average albums instead of above-average albums. I am constantly amazed when people on Slashdot point out how little they appreciate their music. I look at my own collection and I don't have a single album with a hit-rate that low. If I disliked the artist that much I wouldn't have bought the album or the single in the first place. I'll reserve my money for artists that I actually like.

  14. Re:The CD is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Keep your cds in the cases and not lying on the floor. I have many cds that are 20+ years old with no issues. Apparently you have no experience with vinyl:) We can talk about that if you want to talk about scratches.

  15. That actually did happen in the UK (sort of) by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Only instead of a horse, it was a person-

    1865 - Locomotive Act (amended 1878) - restricted the speed of horse-less vehicles to 4mph in open country and 2 mph in towns. Act required three drivers for each vehicle - 2 to travel in the vehicle and one to walk ahead carrying a red flag... - the Red Flag Act.

    1896 - Repeal of 1865 'Red Flag Act' after nearly two decades of strong support from horse interests. Horse-less vehicles now free to travel faster than walking pace! Royal Automobile Club founded. First RAC London to Brighton run held to celebrate the new era of speed. Race was won by Americans who didn't stop for lunch like the rest of the contestants...figures...

    RS

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  16. Re:The CD is dead by Ilex · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Lame that the person who would never dream of walking out of a store with a CD under their coat sees nothing wrong with downloading hundreds of CD's worth of music.


    Stop comparing people who FileShare with thieves. A thief is someone who walks into my house and takes my stuff. FileSharing is like sticking a sign outside my front door saying feel free to clone anything in my living room but please leave the bedrooms private.

    If you want to talk specifically about an intellectual property thief then I consider this to be someone who profits from another's works without giving fair pay. Like say a record company who locks artists into unfair contracts.

    In my controversial opinion it doesn't matter if you download a track from e-mule of buy a CD from a store, the artist, in my opinion has not been given fair pay for their work.

    At least those who download choose not to expose themselves to malware DRM rootkits or support corrupt cartels. Only legal persecution.

    And no I do not download music. I also don't care people do download music or buy music from a shop. I hope one day the creators of these works get fair pay for their contributions without middlemen getting fat from someone else's talent.