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The Return of the Commodore?

PseudoSapien writes "A Dutch consumer media company is hoping it can tap the power of the VIC 20, the PET and the Commodore 64 to launch a new wave of products, including a home media center device and a portable GPS (Global Positioning System) unit and media player. They're talking about Resurrecting Commodore." From the article: "Commodore is far from the first company to try to revive a once-popular tech brand. The Amiga, Commodore's onetime PC brand, has had its own decades-long history as fans tried to preserve both the computer's operating system and brand despite the lack of strong corporate backing."

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  1. So basically, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some Dutch company bought rights to use the commodore name and logo and is stamping it on some Chinese made OEM products?

  2. Oh no! by Mr2cents · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't we just let the dead rest in peace anymore? I loved both my C=64 and my Amiga, but they're history. This is just marketing/branding, it has nothing to do with the original products, nor it's spirit.

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  3. Re:How about by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just don't publish programs in magazines. That really was a painful and stupid way to distrubute software.

        It also happened to be the only viable way to distribute software, economically atleast. But hey, atleast running software you spent hours transcribing was rewarding :) I did, and also happened to learn a lot in the process.

  4. Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So... This isn't Commodore, they aren't using old Commodore tech, they're just hoping that people are going to buy something because of the name.

    I doubt this will work very well. Once people realise the association is fake, the products had better be very good, or else people will be angry that their good memories have been compromised, and they will be *less* satisfied than if they'd just bought a Brand Nobody product.

    I think it's unlikely the products will be any good, or else they wouldn't have felt the need to tack any brand they could get their hands on as a way to promote them. Think of the ratio of good film tie-in games to bad.

    Maybe they will make good use of the name, maybe they have the most wonderful products ever, but they are one wrong step from becoming unwanted graverobbers.

    1. Re:Nothing to see here by tomjen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even if they make the best software ever, they are still going to get disapointed customers - because what you are buying is not so much a computer as a piece of you childhood - all the memories about learning programming and the fun you had. When you bring it back all you get is a computer, and you will be horiblely disappointed.

      Na let it stay as just the memories, you will be happier that way.

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  5. Re:Ok, but why... by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Brand recognition, maybe. People might be more willing to buy a device if it's a Commodore as opposed to $RANDOM_CORPORATION_WE_NEVER_HEARD_ABOUT_BEFORE.

    The same thing happened to Amiga, too: just remember the late "Amiga" computers (I'm putting that in quotes on purpose), which really were just standard PCs with AMD processors - but with a hefty price tag.

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  6. This isn't Commodore. by Caspian · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From TFA:
    "The Commodore Navigator is a Windows CE-based portable device..."

    I stopped reading here.

    I don't know what these people are doing with the Commodore name, but whatever it is, it isn't Commodore.
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  7. Re:How about by bumptehjambox · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Just don't publish programs in magazines. That really was a painful and stupid way to distrubute software.

    Yea, it was painful, but it was all we had man!
    I was about four years old when I first started with the C64, and my mom was a secretary at that time, so she typed the code for a while. It took me a few years to wrap my mind around it, but it was a great way to dissect the language and learn through repitition. But, honestly, I do strongly doubt they'd print complete game/app code in magazines these days!

    ....No wonder why 'ADD' wasn't a hot issue back then.

  8. Yes... by Junta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does that surprise you or is it in any way different from 95% of other companies out there today?

    Sorry, just irritated that not only is this strategy so widespread, but that it is so effective in the market. Why are people generally more caught up in a brand than the actual product?

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  9. Re:I won't be the last to say... by Feneric · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Um, just the company that created the single most successful model of computer ever (the C64); had a bunch of other very successful models (the C128, the VIC-20, the PET, the Amiga 2000, the Amiga 500); is generally acknowledged for inventing multimedia (with the Amiga 1000); had switchable GUIs, multiple processors, independent graphics processors, decent (stereo) sound and graphics, and scripting capabilities back before most other computer platforms even thought about such things; had reliably chainable external hardware well before USB; etc. Most of the best programmers I know today started on one of the Commodore series.

  10. Tramiel did *not* kill the Amiga by SenorCitizen · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You killed the coolest computer ever, jerk.

    He didn't. Tramiel's Atari lost a dirty bidding war with Commodore for Amiga, Inc's technologies. If Atari had won, they would have used the chips to make a new console platform and probably kick out Miner & co.

    The guy you want is Mehdi Ali, who along with Irving Gould ran Commodore to the ground as fast as they could. They are ultimately responsible for creating a company that would throw out any real innovation coming out of the engineering department and going for fast bucks instead. No R&D, just cheap crippled products -- that was Commodore in the 90's. They should have started a next-gen Amiga project as soon as they got the A500 on the market, but they didn't. And when Engineering *did* have a brilliant product (the A3000+) it was scrapped. And when Sun would have sold (shitloads of) rebadged A3000's as Unix workstations, the deal fell through because C= thought they could conquer the Unix market themselves. And...

    Whatever. Commodore remains one of the great examples of management by idiocy.