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Removing Obstacles on Joint Research
Mark_Uplanguage writes "The New York Times is reporting that a conglomeration of 7 universities and 4 industry partners have agreed to open up software created out of industry funding. From the article: 'The tone was set, Ms. Mitchell said, by the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980, which allowed universities to hold the patents on federally funded research and to license that intellectual property to industry [...]The guidelines and framework for the agreement will [be] posted this week at www.ibm.com/university, and at the Kauffman foundation's site, www.kauffman.org.' It's nice to see people sharing again."
Here's a link to the story from Kauffman's Website.
The part that concerns me about this effort is the wording... "Specifically, the companies and universities agreed: * That intellectual property arising from selected research collaborations will be made available free of charge for commercial and academic use."
Its the idea that selected research will be available. Any research with *any* sort of monetary benefits will likely not fall under the scope of this program. So while this may perpetuate the research aspects of these IP's, its unlikely that industry will benefit, and thereby very unlikely that end consumers will see any benefit to this agreement.
in India?
Where do I sign up?
day pass? wtf is this, salon.com?
Can someone please explain to me any way in which this is not a big rip-off of the American taxpayer?
Also, is there some reason that this doesn't story doesn't link to an article somewhere?
-Peter
What this modern world needs is some better skunk.
i've been researching joints for many years, the only obstacle ive come across are the cops. (except the ones i buy from.)
First they should decriminalize it. I'd love to grow two or three different strains to conduct more thorough research. I'm particularly interested in trying some of the newer British Columbia strains (BC Pot).
I thought it was about testing joints!
Most evil is done by good people, and not by accident, but deliberately; motivated by high ideals toward virtuous ends.
Link.
he said research..hah...heh
Yeah, I seem to have misplaced my lighter
Just legalize it for cryin' out loud.... * Sparks a J*, must be 4:20 somewhere....
Removing Obstacles on Joint Research
First make sure you have a clean surface to roll on.
Ensure all twigs and seeds are removed from the pot.
Grind it up to a nice fine consistency.
Don't lick the paper too much or it'll get soggy.
Trolling is a art,
We definitely need to remove some of the obstacles for researching joints. There needs to be much more research done in that area to clear up some of the BS propoganda that was created for us in the Anslinger/Hearst days.
The obstacles must be removed so real scientific research can be done on joints.
I would like to volunteer for this research as well.
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Arguments regarding whether patents, in general, are good or bad aside (see other posts in this thread, I'm sure), I wonder if university research can have it both ways -- both assert restrictive rights on its own IP whist claiming fair-use on other's IP.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
rights violations.
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"The New York Times is reporting"
Ah yes, that fine purveyor of last year's news. Or do they only sit on stories to save incumbents' elections?
(Yes, I'm trolling, mod me down.)
Blatantly off-topic, but what's this new 'free day pass' link on the top of the slashdot homepage? It's telling me to watch a commercial for a day pass. What kind of numbnuts thinks up these ideas for a geek-targeted website?? Sorry, just had to rant about this for a while ;)
For a moment, I thought this was about research access to medical marijuana.
since they reference the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980, and the patent term prior to 1995 was 17 years from grant or 20 years from application, they're just talking about making available stuff where the patents have expired anyway, but trying to get good PR for doing so. i.e. stuff prior to 1985 or 1988.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
This is proof that patents hinder collaberation in a way that causes more harm than good, rather than incentivize creation as is the party line.
Was the research conducted in India?
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Better?
I support joint research!
Legalize it!!
Don't know if it's still there, but there was a highway bridge north of Baltimore airport that used to have a construction sign saying "Open Joints On Bridge". Seemed like a good idea.
Bill Stewart
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...but the good stuff isn't going to be opened up. They get to select what they will release to the public. This is nice for an optimist, but in reality, exciting new stuff will still take time to trickle out into the market. On the bright side, those 11 organizations are 11 of the best out there, so whatever does end up coming out from them ought to be totally worth it.
Windows is like decaf - it tastes like the real thing, but it won't get you through the day.
Yes, it became law in 1980. I pointed out that patents falling under that law dating from 1980 through 1985 or 1988 are now expired.
You can take your foot out of your mouth now.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
Not only that -- I was also seriously disappointed to read this wasn't an article about removing the drug laws so that researchers could finally determine whether driving stoned was more or less likely to end up with you in an accident. Or at a KFC, or something. What was I saying?
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
Nah...they ended up going with Indica. A little bit more expensive, but a lot easier to breathe.
Obviously you should conduct your research into joints somewhere away from the sight of prying law enforcement officers, as they will gladly be an obstruction to your joint research.
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Oops! I thought this had to do with the previous Slashdot article, "Testing Drugs on India's Poor."
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This was the interesting juxtaposition of slashdot titles in my Google homepage:
Removing Obstacles on Joint Research
Testing Drugs on India's Poor
It has been pretended by some, (and in England especially) that inventors have a natural and exclusive right to their inventions, and not merely for their own lives, but inheritable to their heirs. But while it is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all, it would be singular to admit a natural and even an hereditary right to inventors. It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By an universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property for the moment of him who occupies it, but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society. It' would be curious then, if an idea, the fugitive fermentation of an individual brain, could, of natural right, be claimed in exclusive and stable property. If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself ; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine ; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, in nature, be a subject of property. Society may give an exclusive right to the profits arising from them, as an encouragement to men to pursue ideas which may produce utility, but this may or may not be done, according to the will and convenience of the society, without claim or complaint from anybody. Accordingly, it is a fact, as far as I am informed, that England was, until we copied her, the only country on earth which ever, by a general law, gave a legal right to the exclusive use of an idea. In some other countries it is sometimes done, in a great case, and by a special and personal act, but, generally speaking, other nations have thought that these monopolies produce more embarrassment than advantage to society; and it may be observed that the nations which refuse monopolies of invention, are as fruitful as England in new and useful devices. .
Considering the exclusive right to invention as given not of natural right, but for the benefit of society, I know well the difficulty of drawing a line between the things which are worth to the public the embarrassment of an exclusive patent, and those which are not. As a member of the patent board for several years, while the law authorized a board to grant or refuse patents, I saw with what slow progress a system of general rules could be matured. Some, however, were established by that board. One of these was, that a machine of which we were possessed, might be applied by every man to any use of which it is susceptible, and that this right ought not to be taken from him and given to a monopolist, because the first perhaps had occasion so to apply it. Thus a screw for crushing plaster might be employed for crushing corn-cobs. And a chain-pump for raising water might be used for raising wheat : this being merely a change of application. Another rule was that a change of material should riot give title to a patent. As the making a ploughshare of cast rather than of wrought iron ;
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I found Amsterdam to be a very good place to do joint research.
are stems and seeds...
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