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Google Acquires 5% of AOL

Heembo writes "CNN is reporting that Google just acquired a 5% stake in AOL for $1 Billion, shutting Microsoft out of the deal." Under this new agreement, among many other things, Google Talk will now interface with AOL's instant messenger according to the announcement on Google's site. From the announcement: "Google Chief Executive Officer Eric Schmidt said: 'AOL is one of Google's longest-standing partners, and we are thrilled to strengthen and expand our relationship. Today's agreement leverages technologies from both companies to connect Google users worldwide to a wealth of new content.'"

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  1. Interesting by Kickboy12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    AOL has a reputation of being a bad ISP, and also creating bad software for it's users. Will this move help AOL, or hurt Google?

    This could get interesting. (fp?)

    1. Re:Interesting by kryogen1x · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not help both? Google gets a network for its messaging client, AOL is now influenced partially by google, maybe opening up Oscar in the future?

    2. Re:Interesting by mnmn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was wondering if using google now required an extremely crappy browser, a popup laden program installed permanently on your machine making it crawl, and a service which is free for the first 3 months, then too expensive for the bandwidth provided.

      I stopped using AOL/ICQ a long time ago. It used to be popular, but AOL did a terrible job of maintaining that service. AOL's program and its assorted popups and ads were the predecessors of modern spyware and that has tainted AOL in the public's eye for the while. I think they should keep the customer base, but any future software endeavors headed by google should not include the AOL name.

      AOL Google. Somehow sounds like Microsoft Linux. It doesnt fit.

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    3. Re:Interesting by Stonehand · · Score: 5, Informative

      Reading

      http://news.com.com/Google%2C+Time+Warner+strike+1 +billion+deal+for+AOL/2100-1025_3-6003187.html?tag =nefd.lede

      AOL gets --
      * $1B investment. Not gift, but investment.
      * $300M credit for purchase of keyword ads.
      * Ability to sell ads across Google's network including third-party sites (!).
      * Assistance in opening up the 'walled garden' content to Google's crawler.
      * Collaboration on video search.

      Google --
      * Minority shareholder rights.
      * Possibly, more ads sold by AOL's marketing machine.
      * Possibly, higher CTR if AOL can do better ad sales -- through knowing more about its users, say (inferred).
      * Greater availability of the old 'walled garden' content.
      * Collaboration in online video search, which probably includes working with AOL's 'SingingFish' service, and perhaps access to content?
      * Interoperability to an IM network with a huge base -- slightly larger than MSN + Yahoo!, last I checked.

      There's also a defensive factor; a deal with MSN might have required shifting from Google to MSN, and that would mean some 25-30M search queries per day and ~10% of Google's advertising revenue.

      As to how Google might lose, well, if AOL were to collapse, the $1B investment might look like a bad idea; or if the changes drove away too many paying users (through ad clicks, not subscribers). Likewise, AOL might be considered to have lost if Microsoft would have been a better partner, or if people flee AIM to Google Talk, or so forth. But it's an interesting deal from both perspectives, I'd say.

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    4. Re:Interesting by mrm677 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      AOL has a reputation of being a bad ISP, and also creating bad software for it's users. Will this move help AOL, or hurt Google?

      Say what you want about AOL, but its the only software my 70-year old mother-in-law can operate. She still doesn't understand the concept of mouse-dragging and double-clicking an icon is a stretch for her.

      Yet she is an e-mail queen with AOL!

  2. G to the N to the A to the A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's about time there was some co-operation between IM networks. I wonder if this also means that AIM will be open to other Jabber-based networks to connect to easily - perhaps they are implementing a Jabber server based interface to the AIM network?

    This reminds me of the transition a couple of decades ago from multiple distinct email networks (Compuserve, AOL, BITNET, etc) to the one unified email system we have now. Hopefully in a few years it won't matter what IM network we are on to be able to communicate. And ideally, one's email address and IM address would be identical.

    1. Re:G to the N to the A to the A by Slackrat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sources close to the deal report that the two networks will be merged, but only for a lucky 5% of AIM users.

  3. In other news... by nxtw · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google's "Do No Evil" motto found to be obsolete.

    1. Re:In other news... by angryLNX · · Score: 5, Funny

      From TFA: In a letter to Time Warner's board of directors released Monday, billionaire investor Icahn labeled the potential AOL-Google deal as "disastrous" because it may rule out potential future deals AOL might do with Google rivals such as eBay Inc. (Research) or Microsoft.

      Seems to me Google is slowly getting rid of AOL... for the benefit of society.

      They are doing no evil, hell, they're doing the world a huge service.

    2. Re:In other news... by Keeper · · Score: 5, Funny

      Google's new motto: "Put a stake in evil".

  4. Of course now... by drsmack1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    this means more stupid people will be using google. IN ALL CAPS!!!!!

    1. Re:Of course now... by PC-PHIX · · Score: 5, Funny

      "You've got Gmail!"

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  5. I have to say, I'm a little worried... by AEther141 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With the arrival of graphical ads and corporate aquisitions it seems that post-IPO Google is abandoning a few of it's old principles in the pursuit of the almighty buck. How long before "Don't be Evil" is gone too? I could kinda live with Google's pseudomonopoly on searching back when their character was spotless, but this may well be the first lurch down a slippery slope. It may just be paranoia, but I think the days of trusting Larry and Sergey are coming to an end.

    1. Re:I have to say, I'm a little worried... by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it seems that post-IPO Google is abandoning a few of it's old principles in the pursuit of the almighty buck

      The naivety around here is mind-blowingly astounding.

      Google's original, super-clean, no-ad interface was a differentiation to get them attention and eyeballs. Sure enough it worked wonders, and all of the techies and geeks (and overlaps between them) were raving about this great new search engine, encouraging all of their friends and family to use it as well (a no-pay sales force). Soon enough they started introducing those differentiated text-ads (which had a good click through rate because they were novel), and the rest is history.

      All of that was in pursuit of the almighty buck. The fact that someone could say that the company is now doing something in pursuit of the almighty buck, while this young company sits with a valuation of $127 billion dollars, is astounding.

    2. Re:I have to say, I'm a little worried... by mnmn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In a different light, I dont think Google would turn into AOL for the alimighty buck. In fact the almighty buck dictates google to stay this way and turn AOL like itself.

      AOL hasnt been doing too well recently, but Google has been. Everyone can see whose philosophy works, and whose philosophy brings in the almighty buck.

      We know this is good news for google, just not how good of a news is it?

      Google bought a browser, and is now buying a major customer base. Theyve bought lots of dark fiber. Theyre in effect buying everything that surrounds a person, everything that a person uses to access the outside world. They wont risk losing such potential by making or using crappy software all of a sudden. If they allow people to use Linux, and one day remove ALL references to Microsoft on the Internet (the way Microsoft once tried for Linux websites), imagine the fallout. Google may be far more evil than AOL and Microsoft combined.

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    3. Re:I have to say, I'm a little worried... by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Once they became a publicly traded company, they then had one responsibility. To maximize shareholder's wealth.

      Why do people assume that this is true of publicly held companies, but not true of pre-public companies working off of venture capital and private investment (even, Mom's cash)? When someone gives you a more modest pile of cash to help grow (or prevent the early demise of) a start-up company, you are already working to make that investment worth it (unless you want to lose your investors). Whether you're dealing with friends and family investing, or public shareholders, you'd better be doing your best to honor those investors' faith in you.

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    4. Re:I have to say, I'm a little worried... by mattwarden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually they structured their IPO such that this influence would be smaller than normal. I recall all the blowhards on the 24-hour news stations' business news shows telling everyone not to buy the Google IPO for long-term gain because of this. If I recall correctly, there are two types of stock shares: those owned by various people in Google, which get 10 votes per share; and those owned by the public, which get 1 vote per share.

      Yes, obviously they want their stock price to go up. But they aren't nearly as accountable to shareholders as most public companies.

  6. So I guess Google owns 10% now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because I know Slashdot would never post a dupe.

    1. Re:So I guess Google owns 10% now? by Heembo · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is NOT a dupe. The previous article was "speculation" and the second was "confirmation". In other words, it is no longer a rumor, it is reality. This is newsworthy and I'm honored that the slashdot staff agreed with my submission.

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  7. In other news... by Mr.+McGibby · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pigs around the world grow wings, and start lifting off.

    Temperature in hell drops below 32 F.

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  8. Jabber? by nukem996 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if this means they will be going off standard jabber, using the AIM protocal, or will google setup a gateway for Jabber on google servers? Google has also announced full third party client support(gaim trillian etc), does this mean it will be extended to AIM? This could help the IM world get a little more organized.

  9. Re:ah well... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

    And its Yodda-ish motto : "Do!. No evil!"

    Dude, that's the Captain Kirk. Version.

    The. Correct way. Is.

    "No Evil, Do!"

  10. It's all in the name... by PC-PHIX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google + AOL = GAOL?

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    1. Re:It's all in the name... by PC-PHIX · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry, I meant to include a link to dictionary.reference.com where they provide a full definition of 'gaol', mention it is a chiefly British way of spelling 'jail' and then refer users to see 'Variant of jail' which completes the definition using a more familiar term / with more familiar spelling, to ensure that my comment made sense.

      If I had included this link to begin with, the joke (regardless of how funny it might actually be deemed to be) would have worked without requiring an explanation...

      Oh. Wait a minute. I did.

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  11. Maybe someday... by quantum+bit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If Google Talk gets connected with the AIM network, and Google eventually allows Jabber server-to-server (big if, I know), I might possibly be able to talk to my friends on AIM without having to use Oscar...

  12. Adding 2 and 2... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Google buys dark fiber
    2. Google builds instant datacenters in shipping containers
    3. Google buys stake in dying dialup ISP with millions of users
    4. ??? (Do I really need to spell it out?)
    5. Profit. A whole lot of it.

  13. Somewhere in Redmond by YoDave · · Score: 5, Funny

    A fat man is throwing chairs and popping veins.

  14. Re:Something doesn't smell right about this by VRisaMetaphor · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are good guys, and there are bad guys. (Yeah, I tend to see the world in black & white). Google was one of the good guys. (Also Apple, Nintendo, etc) and AOL was one of the semi-bad guys (along with Microsoft, Sony, etc). This messes up my whole worldview. I'm confused now.

    Yeah, you are confused, because there are no "semi-bad guys" in a world of black and white.

  15. New slogan by servognome · · Score: 5, Funny

    AOL now 5% less evil!!!

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  16. NO!! by Eddy+Da+KillaBee · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's as if a million geeks cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

  17. Google shipping a googol CDs? by One+Blue+Ninja · · Score: 5, Funny

    I swear, if I get ONE damned Google CD in the mail, EVER - I'll go to a LIBRARY before I look something up on Google again.

  18. Re:Something doesn't smell right about this by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've predicted before that it'll become fashionable to hate Google. Looks like that's starting to happen. Am I Nostradamus? Heh, no. I've seen a pattern here over the years. Any time an entity becomes big (especially when it's big because everybody wanted it), there are those that learn to live without it, and they feel superior. They speak out and stand behind some rival product that has benefits but is generally pretty far behind, and others who want to look as smart as they do chime in. Karma flows, and before you know it, the zealousy starts. After a while, those that switched sometimes come to the realization that they were actually better off with the old entity or product, so they switch back, then they're accused of having some sort of vested interest in the success of that entity.

    I imagine there'll be some head shaking after my post. That's cool. I just think that within a year or so, there'll be colorful posts about how to live without Google. "I don't use GMail, I use some other new mail app because it supports color in the subjects. (Score:5, Interesting)"

    Just so it's clear, it's not my intention to be insulting or 'right'. Mainly, this is curiosity. I'm posting this, then I'm going to bookmark it. In a year or so, I'll check back on it and see if I nailed it, or if I was once again talking out of my booty.

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  19. It's an old story ... by kitzilla · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ... a scorpion spotted an old dog by the river.

    "Carry me across," begged the scorpion, "and I promise not to sting you."

    The dog was wise and slow to reply. "I don't think so," he growled. "I've never met a trustworthy scorpion."

    "Today you have," hissed the scorpion with as much of a smile as he could manage. "I'm not evil, like other creatures of my kind. Besides, if I stung you, I'd drown. Carry me across and I promise all will be well."

    The dog relented, taking the scorpion on his back. He paddled out into the current. Halfway across, the scorpion stung him behind the neck.

    "Now we will both surely die!" the dog moaned as the venom began to take hold. "Why have you done this?"

    "Because I am a scorpion, of course."

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  20. It's all about the AIM by seanduffy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The AIM of this deal is clearly to take over the instant messaging market, aka, AIM. With Google's ability to throw together amazing software (look at Gmail), I see a skype-esque but better client that supports itself via ads by scanning your conversations (maybe - if they push it that far - backlash might be too big). Personally, I would not have a problem with that, but I say no to cyber sex.

    Google had to sacrifice quite a lot to snag this deal but if you take over instant messaging, you can take over voip, hence, you can take over telecommunications when cell "phones" can simply operate via wi-fi. I say, good move Google - I love you baby.

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  21. Re:From the beginning... by EraserMouseMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You nailed it on the head. Google is an advertizing company. Plain and simple. Everything they do has a purpous: to get more Advertizing $$$. They don't do cool projects just because they are cool and because they help people. They do them because it brings in more advertizing dollars.

    If they dominate the Internet that essentially trumps anything MS Windows can do. Microsoft has the Windows desktop. Google wants to be the Internet's home page. Which is more powerful? Which is more evil?

    I'm a bit worried because if the Internet is taken over by an advertizing company you can kiss your privacy out the door! They'll collect every bit of info about you and your habits and connect the dots like not even the NSA could do.

  22. Did it help Daimler-Benz to acquire Chysler? by JehCt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When a good company buys a bad company, the result is usually mediocrity. It's can be much harder to fix a crap company than to start fresh and build it right.

    However, that isn't what's happening here. Google is only buying 5% AOL, and they already have a business relationship. Google crunched the numbers and determined that one Billion dollars was the right price to pay for renewing their lucrative contracts with AOL, establishing some new contracts, and disrupting Microsoft's plans.

  23. A Funny Feeling by mattwarden · · Score: 5, Funny

    My friend once told me about this time when he made out with a girl who he later found out was his cousin. He tried to explain the feeling to me. He said that his enjoyment made the post-revelation remorse much worse. But I didn't understand.

    Jon -- if you're out there -- I get it now.

  24. Take of your /. "I hate AOL" hat for a moment... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    /. crowd: Get your head out of the sand...

    One of Google's issues right now is diversification of revenue streams. Most of their revenue comes from search and ads. They need to find more revenue from different areas, so what if they decided to provide the backend search and advertising infrastructure to AOL? AOL still provides the same interface and experience to it's users while Google still gets to have it's same interface that the general /. population likes.

    What if google provided AOL with the ability to provide customized Ads to AOL users instead of AOL having to perform the work? It's called outsourcing, execute what you are good at and outsource the rest to people that are better at those tasks. If Google is good at displaying the correct ads, then it's in AOL's best interest to leverage this ability. AOL pays for this service and then Google has one more revenue stream.

  25. GOOG by Douglas+Simmons · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Thanks for the insight. AOL's edge is their dominance on the instant message market and to have access to that is worth every penny when the alternative is swimming uphill offering what may be a better protocol but few will take to it because their chief concern is whether or not they'll be able to message their old friends. This market gives itself a natural monopoloy. So google's grabbing it and expanding it in all sorts of directions but the direction of which I am most curious is their stock: Is Google still a buy at $430?