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Rack Mount BTX Case

CoolTyler5 writes "The TechZone has posted some information on the world's first ever rackmount MicroBTX chassis. The new patent pending chassis, made by General Technics, allows for more powerful processors and storage capability with a smaller, quieter and cooler MicroBTX form factor. The manufacturer also claims it's nearly silent and at 16 inches deep, will fit into most short depth rack cabinets." Of course, the issue that we have at our data center is not really the physical space. Sure, we'd love more space but the power draw per square meter is at the county-maximum. It's great that we can cram more machines into a smaller foot print, but powering all of them is the issue.

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  1. It's relevant to me... by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 4, Informative

    This may not be relevant to those of you who work in large data centres, but for those of us in smaller shops with a few servers in a small rack, being able to fit a more powerful server into less space is useful.

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    1. Re:It's relevant to me... by dc29A · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since the article is touting the Pentium 4 D as processor, it is already a bad choice to run :). Opterons can be put into 1U easy and are superior to a P4 D server. Why would anyone not use Opterons/AMD 64 X2s today in servers, especially for small companies is beyond me. How is this rackmount different from a 1U?

    2. Re:It's relevant to me... by fimbulvetr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ibm's blade center takes dual opteron cards. 14 blades (28(x2 for dual core) Procs) in a 7u space.

      http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/bladecenter/

      IIRC, (What the salesman told me), you've paid for the chassis at around the 5th blade purchase if you're going up against some x336s. Of course, you need a architecture where you can live without local disks on each machine.

  2. Advertising by mysqlrocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, this is a little off topic. I'm supposed to trust information from a web site called "The Tech Zone" that allows those fake ad dialog boxes saying, "Your computer may be infected with harmful spyware programs..."? Shady.

    1. Re:Advertising by mysqlrocks · · Score: 2, Informative

      Get AdBlock for firefox. Problem solved. Now there's one less obvious indicator of the dodginess of a website.

      I can pretty easily sort out the junk. I don't mind advertising in general, so no need for AdBlock. What I don't like our ads that try to trick people or sites that have we too much advertising. I know instantly that it's a fake dialog box, but it's a pretty shady advertising technique non-the-less. Publishers have control over what ads go on their sites, so it indicates that it's a pretty shade web site.

    2. Re:Advertising by bender647 · · Score: 3, Funny

      My favorite is "Your registry may need cleaning" when I'm using Solaris.

  3. Patent pending? by Tet · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The new patent pending chassis [...]

    So let me get this straight. They've taken an industry standard form factor motherboard, and put it in an industry standard form factor rackmount case... and that's worthy of a patent?

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    1. Re:Patent pending? by dancallaghan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Patent PENDING. Maybe it won't be granted if its flimsy enough.

      Ha! Ha ha HA HA! Yes, you gave me quite a laugh there. We are, after all, talking about an American company. And we all know how strict the USPTO is with granting patents!

    2. Re:Patent pending? by BushCheney08 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nail two things together that haven't been nailed together before...

      That's what I tried telling the twins, but would they listen???

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  4. Space == money by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fill half your data center, use the rest to house illegal immigrants or store cia!is pills for $$profit$$.

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  5. ahoy by Eil · · Score: 2, Funny


    "...but we try not to indulge in naval gazing."

  6. Not very interesting... by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 5, Informative

    1. Firstly, how does a blatant advertisement like this get posted in the first place?

    2. It's only 16" deep, but it's THREE RU tall. Where's this "space savings" they're talking about? 1/2RU, 1RU, and blade servers are where it's at for saving space.

    Happy Boxing Day!

    1. Re:Not very interesting... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think BTX was ever meant for rack mount either, but rather consumer computers. There are other standardized form factors for that. Where BTX (or ATX) saves is using commodity parts, so you can make a cheap server.

      I'm not that convinced that BTX is really necessary other than to increase royalties to Intel. The full size ATX standard and cases could have been to provide most or all of the benefits of BTX. The mini and micro ATX standards failed, so I don't see what could be done with BTX that gets at the root of why mini and micro ATX standard failed.

    2. Re:Not very interesting... by urlgrey · · Score: 2, Informative
      but it's THREE RU tall. Where's this "space savings" they're talking about?
      I thought my eyes were deceiving me. 3u. Huh?

      In a standard 42 cabinet, that's just 14 machines--assuming you have no switches, patch panels, power strips, UPSes or the like eating into your usable space.

      Hmmm... even the quiet-factor doesn't matter much--I don't know of too many desks that sit *in* a server room/colo.

      Normally, I'm very appreciative of datacenter goodies... am I just missing something with this?

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  7. Do you really want to get the best bang for the $? by Name+Anonymous · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Get a 1RU Sun Fire T1000 Server - 8 Core UltraSPARC processor with low power utilization .

    And it's only 19" deep. so that's really a lot of processing power in a small footprint.

    WHo needs a rackmount microBTX system to save space and energy?

  8. Re:It should be irrelevant by ocelotbob · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It looks like it's 2 5 1/4" drives tall, which is usually a 2u case, but regardless, that's important info that's omitted in this article. More importantly, however, is the utter lack, it seems, of hot swapping. Yeah, it's got 5 drive bays, but if you've got to power down the server to swap a bad disk out, what's the point? The writer seemed to be more about "oooh shiney" and less about the things that actually matter in a server room.

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  9. home and musician racks.. by hitchhikerjim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah -- not that useful for a data center because space is no longer the big issue for a lot of people.

    But for musicians, having a quiet machine that sits in a rack that isn't too deep means I can put a system in the same rack as the rest of my gear. Can you say portable pro-tools? and for my home setup, I've got 3 or 4 systems. For years I've wanted to get them all rack-mount so that they can be in a neat stack rather than sitting on the floor under desks... but then i stop when I realize how loud rackmount systems are.

    So it's useful for some poeople I think.

  10. Regarding the power tangent by ChuckRoast · · Score: 2, Interesting
    We've been using virtualization technology for some time, but not on production server systems. We are considering doing that now for a variety of reasons (not the least of which include facilitating software upgrades and disaster recovery by leveraging the hardware abstraction layer). Because we run a [un?]healthy mix of operating systems, we are currently looking at VMware, but perhaps OSDN is in a position for considering Xen? It might well help your power needs scale much better.

    Isn't there some Computer Science adage about solving problems by adding another layer of abstraction?

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