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Steve Jobs thinks Objective C is Perfect?

josht writes "Nitesh Dhanjani has posted an e-mail thread between Steve Jobs and himself. Dhanjani argues "I'd like to see Apple developers gain more choice. With every iteration of OSX, there seems to be so much effort put into innovation of desktop components, but the development environment is age old." I agree with Dhanjani. What has Apple done recently to wow the developers, and make it fun to code Cocoa components? I've looked into the Objective C and Xcode environment but compared to Microsoft's .NET solutions, it doesn't impress me at all. I think Apple can do a lot better. Steve Jobs disagrees. What do the readers think about Objective C and Xcode?"

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  1. Making it "fun" by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I agree with Dhanjani. What has Apple done recently to wow the developers, and make it fun to code Cocoa components?"

    What, a fun and whimsical name like "Cocoa" isn't enough for you? Perhaps you'd prefer to code in puppies and rainbows?

    1. Re:Making it "fun" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually I think the best way to make Cocoa fun is to add milk.. who else here agrees?

      -Sj53

    2. Re:Making it "fun" by tomcres · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, if you pronounce the word "Cocoa" a certain way, with the accent on the second 'o,' it sounds like a Portuguese word meaning, well, to be polite, "excrement." You should have seen the look on my wife's aunt's face (they are from Angola) when we were walking through the cereal aisle of the supermarket and she saw "Cocoa Puffs." :-)

    3. Re:Making it "fun" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "I'm Cukoo for Poo-Poo Puffs"

    4. Re:Making it "fun" by RobNich · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I'm caca for Cocoa P--"
      "Damn it! Take 47!"

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  2. between himself and Steve Jobs by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Funny

    posted an e-mail thread between Steve Jobs and himself.

    I always knew Steve Jobs was just a little bit crazy.

    1. Re:between himself and Steve Jobs by gotem · · Score: 4, Funny

      yes, I totally agree with you on that one!

  3. they're all hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've always had problems getting my turtle to move using both Objective-C and VS.net.

  4. Re:namespaces by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...or Pixar.

  5. Re:Learning ObjC/Cocoa (and others) now... by thogard · · Score: 2, Funny

    At the end of the day I want a makefile and I'm going to keep using vi (or a good clone). I've recently converted all my last 5 years of documents (that I could still read) into LaTex. I've given up on the glitter and eye candy. I'm going back to the old school and I'm not coming back.

    The code I've written in the last 10 or so years thats still in production has been in either C, lex, yacc, perl or assembly. None of the C++, Java, Python, php, Visual Basic, Modula 2, or Pascal is still in production. If I go back back 20 years then I can add in Fortran and APL to the still running pile and an Ada module in the maybe list. I was recently contacted about someone wanting a new feature for a program that I wrote 23 years ago that was a hybrid C and GWBasic.

    I used to use computer 100% to get a specific task done. Now it appears that the thing has replaced the TV set as the thing to sit in front of. A modern desktop is too distracting. Email keeps showing up, IM is going off all the time and the calendar is reminding me of stuff that I don't need to pay attention to. The easy solution is turn off email checks but then what happens when the boss needs something urgently? The silly thing needs a "do not disturb" level feature that all programs respect.

    I've got programs that watch my every move and record how much time I spend on different projects and the time wasting on OS X is less than time wasting on Windows but its still a long way away from my efficiency on the old Blit terminal. I've been looking for a way to get OS X to tell me what the title is of the window that has focus that won't eat up all the cpu time.

    What I'm after is a hook I can build into `make test` that starts by turning on email, im, my todo list, enable /. on the proxy and then when make finishes turns it all off again. It would be even better if thats built into the IDE.

  6. Re:Compared to Intellij IDEA, XCode sucks by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 4, Funny

    YOU suckf

  7. Re:For the record by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You must be new here. Go and read some of the comics here, and maybe the meaning behind the words "Fruit Fucker" will present itself.

  8. Re:namespaces by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm guessing your voice has changed a lot in the last few years.

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  9. Re:The emails are already gone. by noidentity · · Score: 3, Funny

    A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
    A: Top-posting.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?