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How Do You Deal with Depression Around Christmas?

SleepyHappyDoc asks: "Lots of people around the world seem to experience more sadness and depression around the holiday season, than in other times of the year. There could be any number of reasons why this is, but my question is: how do you deal with it? Have you managed to find any coping strategies or activities that make things feel less bleak?"

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  1. Various methods to try out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1) Run a couple miles (or more if you can) every morning
    2) Eat chocolate (add in magnesium food supplements too, if you like)
    3) Use a full-white-spectrum lamp

    1. Re:Various methods to try out by pooh666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or just get a girlfriend for god's sake!

    2. Re:Various methods to try out by karnal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You really don't realize how much that can backfire, do you? :)

      Of course, I'm married and wouldn't trade it for the world, but I've had years of relationships that went down the tubes because the people I was seeing at the time weren't right for me permanently. And that little subtlety can make you more depressed than anything around this time of year.

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      Karnal
  2. SAD bad or mad by FidelCatsro · · Score: 5, Informative

    First off , if you are suffering from any kind of depression that is seriously affecting your day to day life then see a doctor . There is no point suffering in silence especially around this time of year when it can be amplified by many many things.

    A depression around winter time in the northern hemisphere can be caused by a few things :

    1: Seasonal affective disorder .this is caused by a chemical imbalance due to the lack of daylight . A high powered solar lamp can help you here will alleviate many many symptoms . Again see a doctor , if you can not see a doctor due to area or if you are in the USA for example (due to your medical insurance not covering this) then have a look for some local or online support groups .There will be people out there who can advise you on things that really help remove the strain .

    If you suffer from a condition such as Bipolar affective disorder then chances are you will also suffer from Seasonal affective disorder , just keep taking the Medication and supplement it with some time by a solar lamp (Again see your doctor)

    2: past trauma/upseting events/Loss of a loved one etc. : Any upsetting event around this time of year can be amplified due to the fact that most people appear to be having a good time . Feeling alone and miserable at a time when everyone around you is so happy really does tend to make things feel a whole lot worse .
    Talk to people about , find a support group , anonymous if you need to if you can then surround yourself with family and friends, but do not suffer in silence . Just accepting the Depression can be catastrophic for your health.There are many people out there who will be more than happy to help.
    Your doctor will be able to point you in the right direction , that is what they are there for

    3:Mental illness : If you suffer from a mental illness and feel that symptoms are worsening around this time of year then immediately talk to your doctor . Chances are they will supplement your medication or find some other way to help you . ...
    It is important that you speak to someone and do not feel silly about it if you have to go to a doctor . You are not wasting there time and depression can be a serious illness , but there are many many remedies which can really help. Do not suffer in silence.(sorry to repeat myself)

    This is by no means professional advice and may not even apply to you , but if you do feel any of it applies to you then see your doctor as soon as you can .

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    1. Re:SAD bad or mad by Foggerty · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Had I the points, I'd mod you up.

      It took me a long time to accept that depression is in fact an illness, and not just me being the social reject I saw myself as. (The fact that I had (many) friends who were confused as fuck as to why I kept putting myself down never seemed to register ;-)

      I'm still having to remind myself that its an illness, that its something that's going to pass and that what I feel now about myself is NOT how the rest of world sees me. But with friends/family it is possible to get past this crap (and it is crap - its just that the subjective nature of depression makes it hard if not imppossible to realise this.)

    2. Re:SAD bad or mad by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It can be a real vicious circle , if you feel worthless then you may feel you are wasting someone's time by asking for help as you may feel you are acting like a fool . Which is far from the case .
      The other problem is a perceived stigma attached to these things , and true enough there may be some but the stigma is a problem with the people who look down upon it , not the sufferer .
      Most people these days will recognise it is an actual illness and will help you or understand , depression is more common than one would think.
        SAD(seasonal affective disorder) affect around 2 in 100 people and regular depression affects around 1 in 10 of us regularly , Even conditions such as Bipolar disorder and sever unipolar depression is not uncommon (though far rarer ) , chances are you know someone with one or almost all of these conditions .
      If you know someone you think may be depressed then talk to them about it and offer a friendly ear , just be careful how you word it (you don't want to put them on a defensive ).

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    3. Re:SAD bad or mad by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yep that can just put people on the defensive .Sure in a tiny amount of cases people can just need to snap out of it ,that is however moping and not depression.
      Depression will require either medication in the case of pure clinical depression .
      therapy (may only be a friendly ear to talk to ) and perhaps medication if it is due to a real world experience such as loneliness or loss .
      Or in the case of SAD , It may require Medication and therapy but will most likely be helped by a solar light.

      A lot of people will advise just getting out and having a good time , which is great and can help .. but actually having the energy or will to get out of the door is a problem , and even if you do get there , there is no guarantee that you in some cases it will not just heighten the feelings of isolation , others will be having a great time and you will just feel like crap .

      This is why it is important to see a doctor , they are trained to help people with these things (as are many nurses that help run clinics , plus a few volunteers )

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    4. Re:SAD bad or mad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're implying that someone hasn't already tried these things, many times.

      Ever heard the expression, "No matter where you go... there you are." Well---no matter what you do, you're still you. It's not always that easy to shake something off.

      Depression is often biological. You don't know how many active, creative, productive, happy people I've known who have hit one of the change-in-body-chemistry ages (13, 18, 24, 45) suddenly seem to have no control over their energy level.

      As for medication, nobody really relishes the idea of paying money for the rest of their lives just to function on the same level as most people. Most patients with mental problems hate taking medication, they hate giving control of their brain over to a drug, they hate how a doctor is in charge of their life instead of them---but sometimes it's necessary, and if it's done properly, a little bit of medication actually helps you regain control over yourself. Often, after some years of learning to have more power over your mood and energy, you can start to wean yourself off the medication.

      I will admit that there are reasons people wallow in despair. The simplest is that it just becomes a way of life, it just becomes identity. Once you start to say, "God, well, I'm just depressed, that's why I don't do half of the things I used to," you've started to plan to never be your old self again. There are also other reasons---some people get noticed for being moody, and any attention, even negative attention (like when your friends are telling you to quit being a drag all the time), can make someone who feels isolated feel partly connected to the world again.

    5. Re:SAD bad or mad by FidelCatsro · · Score: 3, Interesting

      OK , I do hang out with people , I go out most days outside of work have a game of cards , go bowling , watch a movie etc . I work out (weights and exercise) I am a very social person .. however only when I have my medication . I admit I am not just depressed and suffer from Bipolar Affective disorder (believed to be genetic) so my personal example may not be a good one .
      Though I have done volunteer counselling to help many many people with a wide array of conditions , sure a few peoples depressions are caused by their lifestyle and a few others are not helped by it . To say that this will help all depression is frankly wrong.

      Many people I know who suffer from long term chronic depression do live an active lifestyle and socialise but this is facilitated due to medication and other forms of therapy , the getting out and enjoying yourself is part of being cured not the cure .
      The last thing you want to do when horribly depressed is to get out and socialise .

      Depression in its many forms are recognised medical conditions , do not confused being depressed with having depression.
      Everyone gets depressed it is only natural and for a lot people just getting out and getting on with things will help , however for those with clinical depression or one of the other forms of the illness this is simply not an answer .

      Being depressed is not an illness , it is a symptom , it can be a symptom of many many things ,Depression being one of those things .
      The problem is when you can not get rid of the depression and it impairs your life , even if you know what is causing the depression and have resolved the issue the best you can , it is then time to seek medical advice .

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    6. Re:SAD bad or mad by LocoMan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Depression can be an illness, though. I do remember the case of a woman near where I used to live that basically had what you could call a near perfect life, devoted husband, two very nice children, went to the gym at least weekly and the like, yet she suffered from some very bad (and unexplained by external factors) periods of depression. I do agree that there are LOTS of cases out there where doctors are too quick to put on pills and the like where it's not really needed, but there are some cases too where it's an actual physical illness that can be helped (to an extent) with some responsible use of them. A friend from another forum (3dbuzz.com) put together a little flash animation explaining how it works on the chemical level. You can get the link if you're interested on this thread: http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=121 199 (won't post the direct link to the animation so I don't kill his website.. :) )

    7. Re:SAD bad or mad by Princeofcups · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > This is why it is important to see a doctor , they are trained to help
      > people with these things (as are many nurses that help run clinics ,
      > plus a few volunteers )

      I know a lot of folks who are anti "medication for depression" because someone they knew had a bad experience. Not all doctors are made the same. There are a lot of pill pushers out there who listen to your problems for 5 minutes, prescribe the med-du-jour, and call it good.

      The trick is to find a good M.D. psychiatrist who both understand meds and does weekly therapy sessions. Finding the right med for each person is a trick of balancing side effects, and all of these med can have bad side effects. If you get it right, it can be wonderful, but gets them wrong and you will be worse than you were originally.

      btw, I'm on a combination of Wellbutrin and Lexapro, and it works wonderfully for me. And I see my therapist once per month like clockwork.

      jfs

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    8. Re:SAD bad or mad by gmack · · Score: 2

      Actually it can also be dietary. I have a friend whose medication just wasn't working. His doctor took him off his meds and started forcing him to eat a ballanced diet and strangely enough that worked better.

      If were not feeding our body the right nutrients how do we expect it to work correctly?

    9. Re: SAD bad or mad by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Informative

      > I know a lot of folks who are anti "medication for depression" because someone they knew had a bad experience.

      In addition to the pill-pusher problem that I snipped, anti-depressant medicine has come a long way of late. Bad experiences of 20 years ago are completely irrelevant.

      An honest doctor will tell you that not every anti-depressant works for everyone, and there's a chance that none will work for you at all. So it may involve trying one for a few months (yes, it can take that long to have any effect even if it does work for you), ditching it and trying another for a few months, repeat until (hopefully) you find one that works.

      Also, anti-depressants aren't passive fixme pills. You've got to make up your mind that you're going to try to make it work. This may require giving up some bad habits that are contributing to your problem.

      If you visit a doctor who prescribes something without going in to all this, tear up the prescription and go see another doctor.

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    10. Re:SAD bad or mad by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 3, Interesting
      1: Seasonal affective disorder .this is caused by a chemical imbalance due to the lack of daylight . A high powered solar lamp can help you here will alleviate many many symptoms . Again see a doctor

      The "depression is a chemical imbalance" theory is not as rooted in research as the drug peddlers would like you to beleive.

      My own experience: years ago I asked my doctor about SAD. I wasn't even asking her about treatment, just "do you think this is real, or just another trendy diagnosis-of-the-moment?" The first sentance out her mouth was something about Prozac. Thanks, no. (YYMV; I'm not criticizing anyone else's choice here. My own winter blahs weren't that severe that I felt the side-effects worth it.)

      A year or so so later, I decided to give St. Johns Wort a try. Took it over the winter, did seem to feel better - even avoided putting on the extra few pounds of weight I usually added over the winter. Weaning off it in the spring was a little trickier than I anticipated, but I'd still rate it a positive. Did it again the next winter. Obviously my own experience is not a controlled study, though there is clinical evidence for its effectiveness in mild cases of depression.

      About three years ago this summer, I started receiving acupuncture. When winter rolled around, I asked my acupuncturist about seasonal depression. She gave me a "duh!" look and pointed out that animals are supposed to be less active in the winter. It is not a disease to feel less energetic this time of year! Of course there's "feeling less energetic", and there's "debilitating, crushing, want-to-slit-my-wrists depression". The later is certainly a serious problem requring less subtle intervention, though I'm skeptical of applying the term "disease".

      Slowing down and feeling different in the winter means that you haven't become disconnected from the natural world. Chinese medicine teaches that we should live more in harmony with these natural rhythms; indeed, it's much more about these lifestyle elements than about acupuncture, herbs, or bodywork. I've been trying to do that the past few years, and it's working for me.

      Again, YMMV; I'm not advising anyone to stop taking their meds or anything like that.

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  3. I take medication... by SB5 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I take medication during the holidays. Prescribed by myself. Ok I am not a doctor, so I self-medicate with alcohol.

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  4. Dr. Phil by andy753421 · · Score: 5, Funny

    By following the simple advice I heard on the Dr. Phil show, I have finally found inner peace.

    Dr. Phil proclaimed, "The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you've started and never finished."

    So, I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn't finished, and before leaving the house this morning. I finished off a bottle of Merlot, a bottle of White Zinfandel, a bottle of Bailey's Bristol Cream, a bottle of Kahlua, a package of Oreos, the remainder of my old Prozac prescription, the rest of the cheesecake, some saltines and a box of chocolates with the rest of my Smirnoff and Xanax.....

    You have no idea how freaking good I feel.

  5. Re:Hmm by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 4, Informative

    Depression is a real illness, a real problem, and one that has been proven over and over. I know. I used to work in treatment and saw it over and over. I even went through it. If you havne't been there, you simply don't know. To be honest, your statement shows you have no clue what is going on with depression, but it also shows so much hostility that it makes me wonder if this topic doesn't touch on a sensitive spot for you. (why else would you make such a strong negative statement?)

    Telling a depressed person to "quit feeling sorry for yourself", or to "just deal with it," or to "get over it," or to "get out and do things" does NOT work. I never believed this until I went through it. Depression means emotional pain a person who hasn't been there can't believe or undrestand. It often means physical pain, sleeping many hours a day (for me it was 14 or more!) and a lethargy that is almost unbelievable. You can give a person like that medication, but then they often don't care enough or don't have enough energy to remember to take it regularly. While symptoms vary from person to person, a person with clinical depression is usually literally incapable of doing anything other than laying around and feeling sorry for him/herself. Think of a person so depressed they don't see a chance of life getting better and can't imagine things being good enough that the pain is bearable. They have no reason or motivation to take their meds or to do anything to get better.

    That is what clinical depression is like and for most, they simply can't do what you suggest. The only way out is often only to go through it (and not suicide) or meds -- assuming there is someone to make sure meds are taken when needed until the patient is doing well enough to keep up with them or that there is a way for them to make sure they get all the needed meds, even when too tired to care about them.

  6. Re:Pretty simple... by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But the connection does not show that one causes the other.

    Depression is an illness, has been proven and has predictable, measureable effects.

    Telling people to get out sounds good, but it's just a way of blaming them instead of acknowldeging there is a problem and this often makes them mroe depressed. If the parent poster, and the others in this thread don't believe that, then maybe a little research would help.

  7. Sadness is realistic? Depression = inner conflict. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "sadness and depression"

    First, ask yourself if the sadness and depression is realistic. Is your connection with other people far less than is required to meet your needs? People in the U.S. culture often have families in which the members are very disconnected from each other. It's healthy to feel sad about that.

    Second, depression is caused by inner conflict. To relieve depression, you must resolve inner conflict. The fake methods of dealing with depression don't work, they just delay the intensity of the problem until later.

  8. Realize the true meaning of Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This will probably get modded way down, but for me, accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour has given me a peace and comfort that transcends any depression of the Christmas season. Why? Because I now have an eternal perspective on things that I never had before. Even if I live to be very old, my life here is truely very short in the perspective of eternity, and placing my faith in the eternal salvation of Jesus Christ gives me a hope that is far greater than any issue that this life can bring.

    No, it's not scientific, but I can say that since accepting Christ, I have experienced very real and tangible peace, hope, and understanding that gets me through every second of every day.

    If you hold even the slightest shred of possibility that God could exist, consider taking some time to simply ask God to reveal Himself to you. Don't expect a burning bush, but in your heart, ask Him to help you reveal Himself to you. Worst case, you waste a few minutes of your prescious time. Best case, your eternal destiniy will be sealed.

    1. Re:Realize the true meaning of Christmas by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having any source of faith in your life can help , it provides a support network of similarly minded people who are usually more than willing to lend a helping hand . It does not matter the religion , be you Jewish , Buddhist , Muslim , Taoist or Christian .
      This does not mean however that all depressed atheist/agnostics should go out and join a church , but if you are a believer in something then remember that as well as doctors there is the members of your community to talk to .

      Joining a faith is no miracle cure for depression , G-D will not just fly down and heal your depression the second you join a church , that is what doctors are there to do (well not fly down and instantly heal it .. but you probably get my meaning) . There is however no denying that some people will be helped a lot by getting involved in a caring community .
      This also includes support groups and clubs not just faiths .

      the main thing to do is find a doctor to help you and point you in the right directions , but don't count out the help of a community

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    2. Re:Realize the true meaning of Christmas by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This will probably get modded way down

      I hope it doesn't, but there are a lot of judgemental people here who mod something as troll simply because it's not what they want to hear. I don't consider myself a Christian, but I am a Quaker. I was an athiest and even, at one point, a fundamentalist. Faith can be a very important factor in life. There is also a gulf between faith and science, and both sides often have a poor understanding of the other (just listen to comments in the recent Intelligent Design debate to see how the ID people have no clue about the scientific method). Science describes what can be explained through nature and faith is a way of understand what science cannnot explain. The two should not be entangled or confused, but a focus on one should not, out of ignorance, preclude a focus on the other.

      As someone who was deeply depressed, I'm glad that you foudn a way out and added something valuable to your life. It is not the same faith as mine, but that does not make one right and the other wrong. If it works for you, that is great.

      But I wouldn't be surprised if many here indicate they don't understand the point of faith.

    3. Re:Realize the true meaning of Christmas by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Interesting
      No, it's not scientific,

      Actually there is scientific support for this idea. In his book The Pursuit of Happiness, David Myers* cites a correlation between faith and happiness. The bullet-point version from his web site: "For many people, faith provides a support community, a reason to focus beyond self, and a sense of purpose and hope. Study after study finds that actively religious people are happier and that they cope better with crises." He has several articles about happiness online, which make for some interesting reading.

      *If you've taken an introductory college Psych class, there's a good chance you used his textbook.

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  9. Re:Pretty simple... by eggstasy · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you only have mild/seasonal depression, my personal opinion is that chemicals would probably do you more harm than good.
    Studies have shown that living a healthy lifestyle decreases your likeliness of getting depressed even if you are naturally prone to depression. It may be a chemical imbalance, but your body can easily be teased into manufacturing more of the chemicals you need to stay mentally balanced. Exercise often, even if you are already within your normal BMI, get plenty of sunlight, keep a normal sleep pattern and force yourself to be more social. My personal experience has been very positive, but of course YMMV, and if your condition worsens or fails to improve SEE A DOCTOR.

  10. Re:Pretty simple... by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you only have mild/seasonal depression, my personal opinion is that chemicals would probably do you more harm than good.

    Yes. I should have mentioned that, but I was trying to be brief -- and, to be honest, as a human, it is easier for me to talk about what I had and what I had to deal with in patients when I worked in treatment. In those cases, SAD was never an issue, so, to be honest, sometimes I overlook it.

    Studies have shown that living a healthy lifestyle decreases your likeliness of getting depressed even if you are naturally prone to depression.

    In general I agree, but there are often uncontrollable factors. If you're trying to be healthy, but have an extreme work situation, that can overwhelm all the other points -- and once that "overwhelming" starts, it can be a very rough downward spiral, leading to not caring to exercise or keep a healthy focus.

    One point I've heard, but haven't seen tested, is that it can help to get sunlight around either sunrise or sunset so the body's clock will be reset to the current cycle. I know this works for travellers dealing with jet lag, and I've heard it can help depressed people refocus their cycle, but I have yet to see any proof or talk to someone who tried it with depression in mind.

    Sleep patterns are important, but can be disrupted easily and if there is any stress or any other trigger, for someone prone to depression, that can create the downward spiral I mentioned.

    Personally, for me, the one big thing that made a difference was when I finally got control of my life, which included getting rid of bitchy girlfriends (or even ones that just treated me poorly), and getting out of jobs where I had little input and starting a business where I actually had control over what happened and there was a direct link to my decisions and work and their effects on my life improving. Now I don't even get sick (unless I work to exhaustion) and don't take any medication other than 2-3 aspirins a year.

    But it is still easy for me to remember what depression was like -- the lack of energy, the inability to care about anything, the struggle to get out of bed each day, the emotional and physical pain, the sleeping for up to 16 hours a day, and, especially, and worst of all, the idiots who wanted to blame me and thought all I had to do was "just snap out of it."

    BTW, thanks for an insightful post -- especially your last 3 words! It is frustrting to see, in a forum where most people are supposedly well educated, so many post by people that want to "blame the victim" and say things like, "Just stop feeling sorry for yourself."

  11. Program like hell is the best way to beat the blue by DemonSlayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When your mind is in the algorithm, you will have no time to feel depress. Thats why whenever I feel the blues, I start coding like a mad man.

  12. Re: by dimss · · Score: 5, Funny

    If Christmas makes you depressed, try celebrating Hanukkah.

  13. Re:Go to a doctor. by HappyCycling · · Score: 2

    Just wait till you want to quit. You're in for one hell of a ride.

  14. Re:.... 4. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    5. Profit!!!

  15. tips for the hermit by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Informative
    I'm an introvert, so the "outside" treatments for mild depression (e.g. join a club/church, reach out to friends and family) don't work well for me. So I do things that work in the safety of my hermitage.

    I live almost 45 degrees north, so to help compensate for the lack of daylight, I set a couple lights in the house on timers to simulate summer daylight hours. So it's always light out (in the hallway) when I wake up at 6:30am. I assign myself some projects, including some I'll enjoy for their own sake (e.g. write that short story I've been mulling over in my head), and some that I'll enjoy having finished (e.g. clean the kitchen). I drink, but with a strict cap on the quantity.

    I've developed some private holiday traditions. I buy myself a Solstice present (new digital camera this year). Every New Year's Eve since I stopped going to parties (which I only enjoyed when my partner was there with me, and he's not any more), I've spent the evening alone with a bottle of wine and some yummy snacks, doing something to "freshen up" my living space (e.g. reorganize my bookshelves, move the furniture around in the living room, relocate the server farm to another room).

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  16. One word - Bourbon by slasher999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which reminds me, I didn't drink enough over the weekend.

  17. Don't use drugs! by Eightyford · · Score: 4, Funny

    Drugs are not the answer. Psychiatry isn't either! Scientology is the only way to beat depression.

    No. Not really.