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Does Faster Broadband Matter?

tsa writes "There is an interesting piece on Ars Technica discussing the implications of faster broadband services for the users, and for the internet as a whole. From the article: 'Most online activities, like standard websurfing, are not significantly sped up by high-bandwidth connections, and the few that are, such as downloading, are not typically time-sensitive anyway. Many service providers are starting to prioritize their own content at the expense of those from rivals. Many countries have started or are considering blocking Voice-over-IP (VOIP) traffic in order to protect the phone companies from competition.'" How does faster broadband actually impact your Net usage?

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  1. Is web surfing the only application? by bigtallmofo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can your eyes tell the difference between a web-page loading in one second or 0.27 seconds.

    I guess if you only consider standard web browsing when considering if faster broadband matters, the answer is likely that it doesn't make much of a positive impact. At least two things that this fails to take into consideration though are:

    1. There are far more applications today that can utilize the faster broadband, both upstream and downstream. For a few examples, consider P2P, VoIP, video streaming, etc.
    2. Increasing broadband speeds and their adoption rate enables new applications tomorrow.

    Give many people more bandwidth; they'll find a use for it. Feel free to replace "bandwidth" with just about anything and it likely would be true as well.

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    1. Re:Is web surfing the only application? by jcorno · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't think my connection influences that stuff much. It's the other guy's connection that matters. What we need are higher upload rates on consumer broadband packages. Until they catch up, there's not much point in increasing download rates for most of the stuff I do.

    2. Re:Is web surfing the only application? by pyrotic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fast upload speed would sure be nice. At the moment I send 600M to the office once or twice a week. (I'm a freelance photographer, one of my gigs is photographing bars for a magazine.) It's actually faster to jump on my bike, pedal over to the office with an iPod of files, sit around and chat, then go home. That's what I do quite a bit if I have a tight deadline, as uploading files is too darned slow. Like the saying goes, never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes.

  2. Latency over bandwidth by DaFork · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Most multiplayer games in general reqire a fast connection if you don't want to lag out all of the time.

    It depends on your definition of fast. Most people equate fast to the amount of bandwidth they have. The fact is, most online games will not saturate your typical broadband connection. When it comes to online gaming, you really need low latency. It doesn't matter if you have 10Mb down and 1.5Mb up if you have 500ms latency!

    The problem is that residential broadband service providers crank up the bandwidth but do not guarantee latency. Perhaps someday they will sell a product geared towards gaming with a latency SLA.

  3. Re:Well this always comes up... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am less concerned about raw download speed than I am about consistency and reliability. My Comcast cable modem broadband link is less than what I would call consistent and reliable, much less.

    I'd also like to have someone with a brain on the other side of the support conversation when there is a problem with the connection.

  4. 640Mb per second should be enough for anyone by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And 640K should be enough for anyone right?

    How could anyone say that more bandwidth won't find applications? It's dumbfoundingly stupid.

    On the other hand page loads are not really set by the connection speed. After about 40K per second it's the servers and the latency that sets the download speed. That's one reason why things like google's "secret" data-center-in-a-shipping-container project will be important to frontloading content closer to the destination.

    We have yet to reach a point where one can replace a desktop with a thin client or dumb terminal. But Sun's sunray show this is indeed possible if you have enough bandwith for the video connection.
    Outside of high performance LANs you can't do this. But with ubiquitous high speed connections of the future only a fool would actually want to own and maintain his own computer. It'll be a paradigm shift enabled by fast connections.

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    1. Re:640Mb per second should be enough for anyone by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How could anyone say that more bandwidth won't find applications? It's dumbfoundingly stupid.

      What TFA says is, people aren't using the bandwidth they currently have, so giving them more won't make a difference. It's a win for the service providers, because doubling someone's download rate is just a matter of changing a setting in a switch, but then you can turn around and charge them an additional $N a month for it, while their usage doesn't really change. I know I appreciate being able to download an ISO in minutes, but I really only do this a couple times a year, so 99.99% of my usage is checking e-mail (~8 msgs/day) and surfing (maybe 1/2hr a day). Do I really need a 5Mb downlink? Nope, but that's the standard speed from my provider, they don't support slower connections. They will, however, happily upgrade my connection to their "premium" level of service and give me an 8Mb download for just a few dollars more.

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    2. Re:640Mb per second should be enough for anyone by chill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Some of us actually use that bandwidth. For example...

      My phone is VoIP, and I have a total of 3 X-Box game systems in the house -- one for each kid. All three of them do the same thing -- get online (Live) and voice-chat with their friends in Halo 2 or America's Army.

      I also work from home, with a lot of e-mail, IM and WebEx conferencing.

      So, it is quite possible to have 4 VoIP connections running at the same time as a WebEx conference and a file transfer or two.

      More bandwidth means I can use video conferencing for some calls, where you have to actually see the product or layout and it isn't digital.

        -Charles

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  5. SLA?!?! by PhYrE2k2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SLA?!? What are you smoking for $40 broadband?

    What cable/DSL providers give you a service level agreement (SLA) where they guarentee and back financially their uptime/availability, let alone the speed of your connection. They all provide no remedy for downtime, no guarentees of bandwidth as it depends on your area and usage. Why would they guarentee latency that has so many additional factors including line quality, distance, and the routing equipment used.

    You won't find an SLA on anything less than a ISDN/T1+ connection. Maybe some sort of corporate broadband does, but in my experience even $75-$150/mo 'business' broadband has no guarentees either.

    -M

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