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Glass Shapes Can Make Us Drink Too Much
Roland Piquepaille writes "Some people think that a glass is half empty while others see it as half full. But one thing is sure: some glasses are fuller than others. According to the British Medical Journal (BMJ), researchers from Cornell University and the Georgia Institute of Technology have shown that short glasses are more likely to lead to over-indulgence. In fact, people pour 20-30 percent more alcohol into short, wide glasses than into tall, narrow ones of the same volume. The researchers obtained similar results with students and professional bartenders. So, as New Year's Eve is coming, remember to use only tall glasses for your party!!!"
Seriously, some putz at the local pub insisted the Pint glasses there were only 14 fluid ounces. Having a few of same at home I whipped out my trusty graduated cylinder and measured the volume with great precision. The result was close to 16.5 fluid ounces. I keep waiting for an opportunity to make a $100 bet, but keep leaving the scienterrific equipment home.
Wall thickness of glass containers can certainly be deceptive. For pint glasses it's usually about 3mm for the sides and as much as 1cm for the base. Notice how tiny a 16.9 oz. (500mL) water plastic bottle looks compared to a 12 oz. (355mL) bottle. Shape may account for some, but wall thickness is actually a considerable amount of volume within outer perimeter.
In any event I'll be keeping it safe and sane this New Year's Eve by only drinking very expensive champagne. As soon as the money runs out I'll be on water, which should be about 1 hour and 3 hours before midnight.
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Use short glasses when someone else is buying the liquor, tall when you are.
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Shouldn't that be "use only short glasses"? It's New Year's Eve, after all.
Do you mean by "drink too much??"
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I have found that after switching to this glass not only do I typically only fill it half full, I rarely even finish it all.
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Silly me. I thought it was the alcoholism.
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People who drink out of bottle shaped glasses tend to drink more than even those who use short glasses!
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The real trick to this is the "four pour". With a certain standardized spout that they attach to bottles in most bars, you start pouring, count to four, and you're pretty close to the 1.5 ounce mark. This is what's taught in most bartending schools, and if the bartenders stick with it instead of trying to eyball the amount, they get it right much more often.
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Heh, given the lack of women here at Georiga Tech, it is no wonder that the only possible research is in analyzing alchohol and alchohol glasses.
The only other possible research alternative would have been to analyze network cable lengths, but then you get into cliched-joke territory.
Funny anecdote - a graduate student here asked a prof for a good hangout, and he recommended a place right across our research lab. Dude took his girlfriend there, only to realize that it's a strip club. Hilarity ensued. And of course, the same prof usually offered free beer and pizza if you came to his saturday meetings.
Now you know why they do research into alchohol glasses here at Tech.
After extenshive testing I haff determined that the shshshort glasshes are the besht for extenshive testing porpuses.
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Although I don't think this is quite what the article is talking about, shorter glasses (think shot glasses) tend to be used for high alc. content drinks. OTOH, taller glasses tend to be used for beer, etc. Perhaps there's a relationship, too, between drinking too much and the type of booze, which could act as a lurking variable in the overall scheme of glasstype/drinking quantity correllation.
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We should all switch to plates for our beverages.
So where do beer bongs fit into this study?
About 15 years ago bars started selling novelty shots in test tubes.
I have no idea whether it makes a difference, because once people start ordering shots, the party's only started.
keep us from drinking anything at all.
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With spending like this, exactly what are "conservatives" conserving?
One of my friends has taken to ordering Jack Daniels, chilled, in a martini glass. Most bars charge you for one shot but pour at least two--even bartenders who can pour a good 4-count will pour it, take a look, think it looks empty, and double it.
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Some people say the glass is half full, others say the glass is half empty, but engineers say that the glass has a factor of safety of 2.
I don't remember where I heard this from; textbook, professor, teacher.
But a neat thing you can do is have two equal volumes of water in two different types of glasses and present it to a pre-preschool, preschool, or kindergarten aged child (memory is a little hazy on the age). Fill one short wide glass and one tall narrow glass with equal volumes of water in front of the child and the child will tell you that the taller, narrower glass has more water than the short, fat glass. Yes, they will tell you that it is fuller even though they see the same amount of water go into each glass.
I can't exactly recall which part of the brain develops during this age (24-40 months) at the moment, but it's a neat thing to see (if you're a science geek).
As how this might relate to the topic... maybe this doesn't fully develop (or develop as much) in some people because of diet, genetics, or a combination of both?
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This reminds me of an ice cream shop I went to once years ago when I was a child. I ordered a small ice cream sundae and my dad ordered a large. It was about a 2-3 dollar difference. When the dishes were empty, for some reason I filled my sundae dish with water to the top, then I poured it from my dish into my fathers large dish and it went right to the top. Both small and large held the same amount. It's just the large had really thick glass and the small had thinner glass, what a ripoff.
Anyway, "So, as New Year's Eve is coming, remember to use only tall glasses for your party!!!"... This year I'll be using short glasses thank you!
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There it could be a bit problematic to say weather its half full or empty, topologically
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Yep. Personally, I drink too fast, even with tea. With alcohol, in a bar, it's worse, because I get bored in bars and don't really get into the conversations others are having. Let's face it: bars aren't exactly the most stimulating environment for guys who like science and technology and sci-fi. OK, theres an oldish fantasy element to some bars, but that fades fast :) Basically, it's about self-control, and social periphery. If you don't want to get drunk, and you drink to fast, then try orange juice.
So, as New Year's Eve is coming, remember to use only tall glasses for your party!!!
If you want to have a good party, you should probably do the opposite.
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You know how a lot of Americans feel about their guns? Well, we're like that with beer. Any politician who gets labelled as the guy who nicked our beer... well, his career is suddenly not worth a great deal.
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And also remember, Budweiser (Budvar) started out as a european beer, way back when.
Right, but they taste very different-- Budvar from eské Budjovice is very bitter compared to American Budweiser.
But hey, check it out-- Budvar is apparently now marketed in the States under the name Czechvar!. I wonder if it travels well. I'll keep my eyes open next time I'm at the store.
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