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Blu-Ray Facing Delays Caused by DRM Squabbling

Tomo Hiratsuka writes "Disney, Warners et al, the companies behind the AACS content management system, apparently can't get their act together to complete the standard they wish to impose on Blu-ray. The result? Pioneer has the first Blu-ray drive for PCs ready for market next month but is openly admitting the DRM issue may force it to delay." From the article: "The inability of the companies behind the AACS (Advanced Access Content System) content management system to complete their work has already caused Toshiba to put launch plans for its HD DVD player on hold. AACS is made up of a number of companies from the electronics and content industries. The group's founders include IBM, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Sony, Toshiba, Disney and Warner Bros."

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  1. Good! Ship it WITHOUT DRM then! by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe if Pioneer sold enough of them, there'd be such an uproar when the DRM'd players come out that they'd be rejected completely by consumers. Or, at least, it would wake up more people to the dangers of DRM.

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    1. Re:Good! Ship it WITHOUT DRM then! by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Maybe if Pioneer sold enough of them, there'd be such an uproar when the DRM'd players come out that they'd be rejected completely by consumers. Or, at least, it would wake up more people to the dangers of DRM.

      I'm sure they would love to, but they probably can't budge an inch because of agreement by contractual obligations.

      The mafia must be totally in awe of these people.

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  2. Not a surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The film industry has no real desire to jump into HD-DVD/Bluray. They won't be making much money until player costs drop significantly and the HD market is better established. They have the DRM leverage over manufacturers and will string this out as long as possible to get as strict as possible protection.

    1. Re:Not a surprise by FunFactor100 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Meanwhile the movie studios will continue to put out non-HD DVD's that can be cracked, ripped, and posted online. 95% of the world won't care if the movie is HD or not, they're happy with the current DVD quality. Most HDTV owners don't even make use of HDTV signals anyways, does anyone think they care about buying HD DVD's?

  3. Re:Welcome! by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, I for one welcome the indecisiveness of our would-be DRM overlords.

    It amusing that the greed of the big media corporations which kickstarted this whole mess to begin with, is the same exact thing that is keeping them from developing effective DRM. All the shifting alliances as all the tech companies try and lock the content providers into their DRM scheme, and all of them fight to make sure their DRM doesn't really work with anyone elses. It'll be a moot point before they get their crap together.

    Ahhh, the sweet spectacle of infighting among ones enemies.

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  4. Doormat? by rob_squared · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we're welcoming our new overlords, does that make us doormats?

    Anyway, I wish companies would realize that DRM is not the answer to copyright infringement, there is no "answer." The best way to lessen the problem is to lessen the cost to the end user, and don't introduce new formats!

    A lot of people bought DVD copies of their VHS tapes because of higher quality and longer life spans, will BlueRay be enough of an advance?

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  5. There is no such thing as DRM by McAlt+0178 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it can be read, it can be copied...

  6. Get Your DRM Right Here.... by mpapet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sadly, I really don't think DRM will bother the unwashed masses. Why?

    -Most people have been trained to buy their information. Along the way free information is derided as just that, "free" and all it suggests.
    -It will "just work."
    -If the quality is good enough, they'll gladly lose what freedom is left in exchange for a prettier picture. Most have gladly done that already with iTunes. So the audio battle is over and DRM has won. Your video is next.
    -Even when someone breaks it, it just won't put a big dent in the corporation's bottom line.
    -The Entertainment corps get to drag the poor guy through court as an "example to all." Thereby reinforcing the mindset that information should be owned, lock, stock and barrel.

    While I understand that DRM and OSS are idealogically polar opposites, there should be an OSS DRM. Then there would at least be some transparency. Not to mention a generally better system.

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  7. The fly in the ointment... by tkrotchko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is that they've got to convince people to switch.

    As sony has found out, asking people to give up a non-DRM format for something with DRM is a tough sell (as in SACD replacing Audio CD).

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  8. Don't blame them by Stan+Vassilev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a lot of stress for them.

    They just FEEL that whatever they end up with for AACS it'll be hacked and dismantled the week it's out, and are frantically trying to prevent it.

    It's of course funny to see how the minuses of DRM pile on top of each other (now delaying manifacturing and entering the market), while the benefits are yet to be seen (if ever).

  9. Impatient by Angst+Badger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jiminy, I don't give three-quarters of a rat's ass about movies on BluRay. I want these turkeys to go ahead and get their consumer market rolling along so I can get a writable BluRay drive and start burning spindles full of data DVD-R's to a handful of BluRay discs.

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  10. I bet they're just removing the root-kits by cbreaker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After the whole thing with Sony's music CDs, I wouldn't be surprised if they've had to change some aspects of the copy protection - namely removing stealth copy protection mechanisms. Because you know it was on their minds, and probably already coded.

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