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Why KDE Rules
diegocgteleline.es writes "Being a long time Gnome user and while talking with some non-KDE users, I realized that non-KDE users know few things about what are the "Good Things" of KDE. So I wrote an article about "Why KDE Rules" focused in KDE, with lots of screenshots and some texts - so all those non-KDE (or non-Linux) users can take a look at what KDE can offer to them, why KDE users use it and what they can expect about the future of the KDE platform if they choose to use it. Of course, this doesn't means that this was written to critize other desktops neither it means you should start Yet Another Gnome vs KDE flamewar..."
What's better, rain or sunshine?
Everyone has preferences, and Linux is all about choices. I'd rather see an occasional Gnome/KDE flamewar and have the choice to use whichever I prefer. Truth be known, I have both installed. I love Gnome's beautiful interface, and KDE's powerful apps for development. Depending on my task du jour is what I choose from my GDM login screen.
Of course, if you can't make up your mind, there's always blackbox, xfce, windowmaker, enlightenment, and 7.2 hojillion other choices for your X environment. Of course, no one ever complains that Windowmaker is better than XFCE. >83=
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oh yes, and just for the record: using Ubuntu at home and KDE (Knoppix) at work I have to state my preference for the less cluttered Gnome.
Let the trolling begin.
Having a choice of various different interfaces to computers systems is a blessing, not a curse. Need to build a netsurfer box for Grandma, wife, or kids then use Gnome or KDE. Put together a server, no GUI needed. On my workstation, WindowMaker on the main box, shell access only on the other but X displays on the main box. Others do different tricks with different tools.
It's your box, your systems: Decide how the machines will be used and who will be using them, then pick the appropriate tools. Be glad -- and be thankful -- for the variety as it is a very good thing.
And for those who insist that "Linux" have only one standard interface, just remember "Linux" isn't a monolithic structure but a collection of tools from which you build what you want or need. If you are with a company worrying about providing support, build a distro and tell your customers that's what you support directly, everything else Linux-wise is base info support only and the customer is expected to know what to do for their distribution. Or tell them you only support such-and-such distributions directly, everything else is basic info only. There are many different ways to skin this particular dog.
Arguments over "which one rulz" are stupidly pointless unless it's a feature-by-feature comparison. The reference article would have done better to have done just that; a comparison of KDE vs. Gnome as concerns their features and tools. Are KDE and Gnome meant to address the same user groups? I'm not so sure and a good comparison of the two might have proven useful in deciding betwix the two. I am sure that having a choice between the two gives people flexibility via options.
About preferences. Some people prefer blondes, some like brunettes and I've heard rumors of some folks even liking red-haired types. Then there is the whole eye color thing, and then body shapes and breast sizes, etc. Oy, it quickly becomes complicated, but it's such a fine form of torture. Indeed, beautiful women are like fine art: If you have to own every piece that strikes your fancy, you are either very rich or very frustrated. But _having_a_choice_ amongst so many different makes and models ensures continued shopping bliss by keeping it interesting.
Start with GUIs, end with fine women; time to call Dr. Strangethoughts.
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....Its so fucking over simplestic.. For example, when I go to save a file, i cant enter a text path...Noooo that would be too hard for the nubs...So, I have to click around FOREVER tell i find where I want it to go. This theme of over simpleness is displayed everywere in Gnome.
You can change all that. When I pop in an audio-cd, I don't get ANY dialog. ALL these dialogs have a "Don't ask again" option and a "Make this the default" option, and these work. Same goes for connecting your camera, or whatever USB-device or type of CD or DVD you insert. Make the right (for you) choice the first time the dialogs appear, and you won't be bothered by them ever again. And if you later find out that you did not make the right (for you) choice, you can change it in the controlcenter (kontrolkenter?).
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the ssh ioslave (fish://).. any KDE app I'm using can read and write to arbitrary SSH shells I have access to. Works anywhere.
No, it's not working everywhere, it is only working in KDE applications. It's another aspect of KDE reinventing the kernel function of abstracting the filesystems you access.The right way to do this would be on kernel level, allowing all applications to access the file system (like FUSE does). Of course it's just a question of perspective, you could argue that this is more like an FTP client. But I feel bad about adding more and more functions to KDE and leaving the rest of the system behind.
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No no no. "Menu bar", not launch bar. On a menu bar, the application menu goes to the top bar of the screen.
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GNOME doesn't have it and, right now, doesn't have support for something like that. The current menu objects can't be placed out of the current application (they are not bonoboficated or something like that).
Also, I recall some talks of some developers saying that the menu bar at top could confuse users who use "focus follow mouse". As I use this focus model, I must agree. Of course, YMMV.
I'm sad that they are killing many established Un*x philosophies that have been around for a while and proven themselves.
I don't think they are. Actually, I think KDE, with DCOP, Kioslaves and KParts, is doing a good job of extending the Unix philosophies into the GUI space.
I already noticed this 10 years ago, when KDE started to "reinvent the wheel" [tm] instead of providing proper frontends for established (console) applications, with things linke kppp or kinternet.
I don't know about kinternet, but kppp *is* a front end to pppd, a console application.
KDE also has the ability to configure many aspects of your Xserver like keyboard ayout, resolution, fonts... - but only for KDE, if you sitch to another Window manager, those changes will not be reflected, they only affect your KDE session.
I think some would argue that's a feature, not a bug. I can see both sides.
KDE and Gnome both have the ability to browse different "filesystems" in Nautilus or Konqueror, like sshfs/fish, bluetooth devices etc., but again, this only works for KDE/Gnome application. This might be a nice abstraction, but we already got such thing, it's called the VFS layer inside the kernel. Why not provide a nice interface for mount and perhaps FUSE, which can do the same thing, but in a nice and consisting way that fits into the Unix way of life (Yes, I know that FUSE is not perfect yet).
And kioslaves have been around for several years, while FUSE is new. Until file systems are implemntable in userspace, doing something like them at the VFS level means kernel hacking, which is much harder and more error-prone. Given that the kernel did not support the required functionality, the KDE developers' only option was to build their infrastructure in at a higher level. But they followed the Unix philosophy and made it very modular and pluggable, so that all kioslaves are usable from every KDE application that uses files.
Why design every application with a GUI, despite the fact that people might want to use them in a script (without an X session), just like kitchenync or multisync? I'd like to get my device synced automatically upon hotplug/udev detection, but that would require a command line version, just like pilot-sync used to have.
In the first place, assuming you have a GUI, there's nothing preventing hotplug/udev from starting a GUI app to do the synching.
In the second place, you're complaining (and I think it's a legitimate gripe) about one particular application, and applying it to the whole desktop. I agree that the core functionality should be provided through a command-line interface.
Those DEs are also reinventing drive letters - not letters as such, but a directory structure that has the drives next to each other on the root.
This I haven't seen. Can you elaborate?
The fact that each job had its own tool, and that those tools could be combined in an easy way (pipes, script) is what made Unix/Linux so great
You really need to learn about DCOP.
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Because then everyone would whine, anyway... "Everytime I put an Audio CD in, it just plays it. I want to rip it instead. or browse it. Why doesn't it give me that option the first time?"
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