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RIAA Bullies Witnesses Into Perjury

QT writes "A Michigan couple is counter-suing the RIAA after they learned that the RIAA had bullied their witnesses into lying. The story revolves around a 15-year-old girl who, when deposed, told how RIAA lawyers told her that she had to commit perjury just so they could win their case. From the article: 'Q - Did [the RIAA lawyer] tell you why he needed you to stick with your original false story? A - Because he said he didn't have a case unless I did. Q - So, he told you that he didn't have a case unless you stuck with the original false story?'"

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  1. RIAA embarrassments?? by brokencomputer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wow, I can't decide if this might be more embarrassing than when they sued a stone-dead grandma.

  2. ouch by hostingreviews · · Score: 5, Informative

    So the RIAA bullied a little girl? Unthinkable. They would NEVER, ever EVER do something so... okay so they do.

  3. Re:Coercion? by pgpckt · · Score: 5, Informative
    Q. It wasn't true. And you felt that Mr. Krichbaum was trying to get you to say something that wasn't true?

    It seems like the interviewer is the one telling the girl what's true and what isn't. "It wasn't true" doesn't sound like a question to me. Although I'm sure the RIAA has done stuff much worse than this.


    You are quoting it out of context. Look to the prior question and answer:


    Q. -- Jim and yourself had ripped the music off?
    A. Yes.
    Q. And that wasn't true, was it?
    A. Correct.
    Q. Correct that it wasn't true?
    A. It wasn't true, yes.
    Q. It wasn't true. And you felt that Mr. Krichbaum was trying to get you to say something that wasn't true?
    A. Yes.


    You can clearly see from the dialogue that the questioning lawyer is merely repeating the answer the witness gave immediately prior.

    This is a common speech error among lawyers. Many people when they speak "fill gaps" with "Uh-huh" or "Um" and the like. Many lawyers also use these space fillers. With lawyers, of course, it is Q&A, so one of the most common space fillers is to repeat the prior answer as part of your next question.

    Really poor lawyers do this in EVERY QUESTION. It gets annoying quick. But even good lawyers do it from time to time. It's just the way people talk.

    There is nothing dirty about this. You might also note from the record that there was another lawyer there, a Mr. Miller, who objects from time to time. He is working for the other side, and would have objected if this was improper (which didn't happen, because it wasn't).
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  4. You may be interested into.. by elpapacito · · Score: 5, Informative

    learning which companies do support RIAA. Let them know what is RIAA doing so that they can do some image-issues calculus.

  5. That list is inaccurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I hate to be the one to break the news, but that list is inaccurate. I know for a fact that Fat Wreck Chords is *NOT*, and has never been, a member of the RIAA. In fact, they had to fight for over a year to get the RIAA to stop claiming that they were a member. It looks like the RIAA has gone back to their old ways, though.

    Simply put, the RIAA will list every single label it can find, and add them to a master list. Why? So that it appears that they have more backing than they really do.

    1. Re:That list is inaccurate by metricmusic · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here's their say on that from 2000:


        Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:14:23 -0700
      From: Fat Wreck Chords mailbag@fatwreck.com
      To: Adam Fogler afogler@---.---.edu
      Subject: Re: Fat Wreck Chords a member of the RIAA? Say it ain't so!

      Adam,
      We our not part of the RIAA. We are a label that uses RED (though not exclusively) as a distributor, hence maybe that is why our name appears on the list. Still we've never signed anything with the RIAA. That being said, FAT WRECK CHORDS does believe in copyright and is against piracy.

      Now on a side note, I hope you are running your computer on LINUX or some other open source software?

      floyd


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