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Linux Netwosix Creator Discusses 2.0 Vision
An anonymous reader writes "LinuxWorld recently took the time to talk to Linux Netwosix creator Vincenzo Ciaglia to answer why there are two releases (1.3 and 2.0-rc1) within a week of each other, among other questions. From the article: "We think that its light structure could make Linux Netwosix suited for all network security work. For a good network plan, the sysadmin needs a light system that is highly configurable. Every sysadmin wants to configure networks, and work with them, with the possibility of doing everything alone."
Neo asks, what is the Wosix?
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Aren't they the ones that allowed Maureen O'Gara to attack/smear PJ on Groklaw?
I'm sure it's an interesting article but I'll wait to see it somewhere else before I read anything on a sys-con site.
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Wow a DHTML popup window covering the text. Great way to get me to read the article. Hint: If I can't see popup windows it means that I have gone out of my way to block them, making me see them again means you just wasted your bandwidth.
Or does the article never answer it's lead question of why the two releases within a week of each other?
I saw a lot of product pitches but why, of why, why the close releases!? Not that it's that important, in fact I'm sure they were worked on semi-independetly of each other... but now I must know... I smell a cover-up...
Could someone please describe what Netwosix so we can appreciate the purported dilemma?
Maybe I'd have a better idea once this article is written.
"Every sysadmin wants to configure networks, and work with them, with the possibility of doing everything alone."
Also, every generalization is false.
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with the possibility of doing everything alone
Yes, that's the problem with geeks... we end up doing literally everything alone.
i am the creator of neo linux triumph U are a huge nerd
... had 6 hrs chem, 6 hrs math, 5 hrs
no seriously, it's very good this youngster creates a distro. But it's aimed at security
I don't trust a 19 year old to know everything about security, he maybe be a genius
although they say the same about me knowing that i went through my senior two years
in highschool without books. I'm a european
physics and 3 hrs biology/ a week in my last 2 yrs. But hell i'm now a 4 years slackware user and i'm not even near to making a security based distro, i damn well
hope this guy has a team or some backup. because damn man u must be either lonely
or have way too much spare time
http://img135.echo.cx/img135/6440/5k4q5e7xv.gif
I'm planning to expand the portage tree, doing other 300/400 packages ports, with everyone security oriented.
Is this distro based on Gentoo's portage? If so, what is this distribution trying to fix? And is this guy "porting" packages all alone? He probably never figured how much work it will be to maintain his own distro.
Good god, why do people put up with this crap!
Netwosix will try to offer the first valid alternative to historically secure systems like the *BSD
stability, performance, and support for mission-critical application deployments
users can benefit from outstanding robustness, scalabilty, and reliability
Big words. If he wants stability why does this 19 year old jerk use the latest 2.6.14.5 stable kernel? Where do all those features come from? You won't get security and robustness by just repackaging software. Is Ciaglia saying he reviews all the code in his distro and fixes broken stuff? All on his own? On several platforms? Look at their site: Their "community" consists of merely two people.
Goodness, just because every kid can burn a bootable Linux CD that doesn't mean he just created a new distro!
Call this a flame. But I really don't see the point of Netwosix.
Are there any marketing students out there who can contribute to OSS projects by coming up with product names that aren't (in my opinion) the types of things businesses are going to immediately disregard because they sound retarded. Gimp may be a passable image editor, but it shares its name with a failure to walk correctly, or worse, the dude in the mask in the basement. Divx may be an ok codec, but naming it after someone else's failed technology on a lark hardly seems like a good idea. Netwosix sounds like something Homer Simpson would make. It's not all bad, but there's so much that is.
I really wonder what is the advantage of using portage over apt-get in handling repositories. I mean more and more linux distro makers are moving to portage. Gentoo has it. Now netwosix also have it. Is it because of a flaw or drawback that they see in apt-get ?
It would be good if there is an article giving the pros and cons of portage over apt-get and clear the matter once and for all. Both are very popular amoung *nix users.
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How about this question: What the fuck is Netwosix, and why the fuck should I care?
Let me get this straight. Yet another lightweight linux distribution has a BSD-like packaging system and claims to be all about security. They release a new version and then a separate tree based on a slightly new architecture. How is any of this news? How is this different from about a dozen other linux distributions out there?
Hey, I read through the install doc, you have to manually setup fstab plus a few other things. I do not see why anyone would pick this distro. Using kickstart or custom tag files (Slackware) we can easily have a minimal install done. I would like to see how this distro compares to NetBSD ....
It looks like a "wag the dog"
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You don't need to make a package for it, just a script to built it. The sources/packages can be downloaded from the original site at build time, and not from a central repository, if seen fit. Of course you can always download from a mirror.
From the article:
Also, if your company wants to contribute to Netwosix development, let us know, because we're seeking business partners for financial support!
Should have left that out, dude - or at least be a little more subtle. You can't be that blatantly honest when asking for cash!
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WTF did that page just download to my computer?
I tried to read the source code of the page, but it comes up blank.
That's a Homer Simpson operating system name if ever there was one...
Aside from something with a godawful name, what the hell is Netwosix? (Something to do with "Linux" and network security, but *what*? And when it says "Linux" does it mean the Linux kernel, or a distribution based on it?) Submitters, please actually say what something is when submitting an article about it. Editors, please damn well edit submissions to don't.
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Just download the SUSE 10.0 delete all the packages you do not like, add the ones you DO like, as for example libdvdcss and MPlayer. Next you can look her on how to make your own CD or DVD and read up on the my.sel information.
Several different distro's have been made. SUPER will be the best known. Somebody also made a pure Spanish one and I know of a person who was writing a book and wanted to add its own version.
How much changes you do later is up to you. Some experience with RPM building would be very handy.
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More and more are moving over to Portage? Where did you get that idea from? Apart from Netwosix and Gentoo, and maybe a few Gentoo-derivatives, I don't know of any other Linux distros that use Portage - hell, 80% of them all seem to use apt-get!
I use Gentoo and love Portage, but I wouldn't say there are more and more people moving over to it. I would switch to a system with apt-get immediately if I knew the packages were going to be as up-to-date as the Portage tree. (K/Ubuntu isn't as up-to-date, I've tried it, I know.)
The ability to have custom compile time library dependencies. I don't have a printer. USE=-cups means that I don't have to worry about cups at all. It isn't just the extra package, it it maintaining it, tracking vulnerabilities..
Similarly, I can build without LDAP support. Often things that Debian's default builds do not do. And if it boils down to rebuilding a significant part of the distro for my customisation, apt-get really offers no benefits.
apt offers incredible benefits if the binaries provided by the distro do what you want. Ports works when they don't.
I can throw myself at the ground, and miss.
Im pretty sure that the W stands for Walker.... as in GWB .... George Walker Bush.......
One person posts a something negative about this thing and everyone wants to turn it into a slamfest. Has anyone installed this and checked it out? Does anyone know the developer personally? Age is not the end all measuring stick for intelligence, and neither is a Phd in whatever. stfu.. christ.
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hey. it's actually *bad* that every poor boy who messed with linux for a few yars decides to pollute the world with yet another crap and spam about it.
google for "netwosix" and compare the amount of buzz to what he actually have done.
to spare your time (i've already lost more than enough of mine on this), here are some tips:
- the permissions in tarballs of the very first "release" i've stumbled upon were plain broken (that is, world-writable files and dirs where they just must not be -- too)
- some dozen and a half of "security announces" on bugtraq@; these ended last year (apparently no "advisories" were put out for the literally handful of those who participate in a ML)
- the "author" has apparently no understanding of security (let alone manageability) at all. Ports aren't manageable (hint: no branches), security is a process, and he has long parted with it.
so, if he drools around to get any attention, don't repeat my mistakes in paying *any* time to stupid students who are ignorant enough not to understand that rolling out yet another pretentious BS just isn't a renowned investment of time at all. he'd better work on gentoo if he likes ports that much, or stay with beloved slackware fiddling on one and only localhost.
while the rest of the world tries to actually do something useful...
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if the aggravated comments on a single-man over-plugged pile-of-crap aren't enough, here's another one from someone who actually tried to fix this boy's DNA regarding work-to-noise ratio:
- vaporware.txt
http://old.linux.kiev.ua/~mike/docs/misc/netwosix