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Military Device Will Sense Through Concrete Walls

Juha-Matti Laurio writes "DefenseLINK News is reporting that 'troops conducting urban operations soon will have the capabilities of superheroes, being able to sense through 12 inches of concrete to determine if someone is inside a building.' By simply holding the portable, handheld device named a "Radar Scope" up to a wall, users will be able to detect movements as small as breathing. The Radar Scope hopes to eventually give troops the ability to see up to 50 feet beyond a concrete wall to decrease losses in urban combat."

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  1. Terahertz Imaging by mustafap · · Score: 5, Informative

    For anyone interested, do a google on Terahertz Imaging.

    Once the transmission technology comes down in price it's going to be great for the 'metal detecting' hobbyists. No more digging up rubbish. You'll be able to see the object. This is one technology that I cant wait for!

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  2. Re:Yeah but... by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 2, Informative

    UWB radar. Ultra-Wideband Radar. Uses ultra short pulses. Go here: http://www.uwb.org/

  3. An ultrawideband through-wall imaging system by dtmos · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is an ultrawideband through-wall imaging system, and is an old technology that has been around for many years. Two of the many manufacturers are Time Domain [Flash!] and Camero.

    Note that, while military radio emissions are regulated in the U.S. by the NTIA, U.S. civilian use of ultrawideband through-wall imaging systems is controlled by the FCC (by regulations established in April 2002 [pdf!]). 47 U.S.C. 15.510(5)(e) [pdf!] states that

    Through-wall imaging systems operating under the provisions of this section shall bear thefollowing or similar statement in a conspicuous location on the device:
    "Operation of this device is restricted to law enforcement, emergency rescue and firefighter personnel. Operation by any other party is a violation of 47 U.S.C. 301 and could subject the operator to serious legal penalties."
    Basically, and as defined by rules elsewhere, it's illegal even to possess one in the U.S. if you're not a first-responder type.
    1. Re:An ultrawideband through-wall imaging system by randyjg2 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Couple of points.

      I wasn't able to access the DefenseLink article for some reason (it came up blank in several browsers), but I thought I would make a couple of comments on UWB imaging.

      These UWB based through wall imaging systems have been available, for example, in Japan for 20 years. They were banned in the US until after 9/11 because of political pressure from telco's (Biggest docket the FCC has ever seen).

      At that time, they were allowed to the public(with great restrictions) as unlicensed spectrum devices.

      The ones I have seen in public just produce a sort of a blob in the viewer when looking at non dense items like humans, produce false shadows, and are easily confused by simple fans running in the area (Basically, its ground penetrating radar, and the fans act like chaff and scatter the reflection).

      Given that the missions our warfighters are likely to be engaged in are in high temperature areas where lots of fans are likely, it is unlikely to be very useful except as a general warning device. On the other hand, they need VERY low power and pose no hazard to anybody.

      Except maybe the soldiers. While UWB has a LPDI (Low probability of detection and intercept) it is not zero. Quite a few countries (especially Pacific Rim ones) have UWB expertise, and the ability to detect what is basically a moving static emitting source is not beyond the state of the art.

      For the devices to be useful, the soldiers have to boost power if moving metal is in the area, and if there isn't any, its probably because the electricity grid is offline, which means it will be little background static to mask someone using these devices.

      Soldiers using the device might very well be "painting" themselves as targets. Since the US military has been using UWB devices devices for decades, it is a distinct possibility that arms dealers already have (or can purchase) such detection devices.

      The potential of these technologies, however, is incredible. Properly done, UWB and related technologies can also detect distance, shapes and materials. (Theoretically, at high power, you can create an e-weapon that is unimpeded by heavy armor, and even a sort of star trek like force field! )

      However, thats just what was predicted from the theoretical math. The level of sophistication to implement something like that is many decades away at least, because the amount of computing power (and electric power) needed is not possible to achieve with present technology.

  4. Re:More old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    More old news. CES is happening and the best we can do is recycled news stories?

    Eh, that pretty much sums up CES though too. MS has a big exhibit featuring Windows Vista, their MythTV clone, their online version of Office and a bunch of 360 games. Of course, every TV manufacture is there showing flat-panels --most of them are garbage, my favorite is the 26" LCD Poloroid FLM-2600 complete with lousy 7.5 watt speakers (why did they bother?) and 600:1 contrast. The biggest Plasma I saw this year was a 102" 1080p. Every MP3-manufacturer that doesn't know how to make cell phones and was burned by the iPod takeover last year is back again this year with tiny tiny video-players that cost way too much. The cell phone manufacturers are there hoping (against hope) that the largest US cell phone networks shift to EVDO (wireless broadband) will help keep their sales up for at least another year. Daryl McBride's SCO is there hawking some online service for sending multi-media messages from Treo650 phones (NOTE: do not abuse the sale reps, those kids do not work for SCO --they are subcontracted and don't know anything about the lawsuits --offer them a new job or a candy bar or something). Add to this an unbelievable number of USB/SD flash and DVD-burners, plus the obligatory XXX Adult Expo (with 2 hour line) and, well you have CES2006.

  5. Re:Urban rescue? by wombatzoner · · Score: 2, Informative

    It doesn't rely on light and doesn't require you to bore a hole through the wall. It also gives you a very quick read on if the room is occupied/not-occupied without having to pan the scope around.

  6. Re:Silly Americans Again by orthogonal · · Score: 3, Informative

    "If we fought in Iraq like we did in WWII when we occupied Germany we wouldn't have these problems of insurgency. Back then if someone exploded a car bomb or shot our soldiers, we just pulled out of the city, shelled it for 24 hours(all of it).... By making it a living hell for everyone, if the enemy attacks our soldiers, then the people stop hiding these insurgents or supporting them."

    Oh dear.

    I guess we have to blame your teachers for this, "Sir Foxx".

    In WWII, we Americans didn't destroy whole villages during occupation: the Germans did that.

    German civilians put up very little resistance prior to Germany's surrender, and no real resistance after surrender. No car bombs (indeed, car bombs are really a more recent invention), little or no shooting of American occupiers.

    Now, the Nazi Germans did carry out reprisals against civilians in occupied countries. Don't believe me: look up Lidice or Oradour-sur-Glane and educate yourself.

    When I was growing up (I'm guessing I'm a bit older than you), Americans took some pride in being the "good guys", pride in not being like the Nazis or the Soviets. We used to be proud that the rest of the world looked to America as an example of a free democracy. That was before we decided to export "democracy" by means of torture and secret prisons and Big Brother-ish spying.

    That was before we became mirror images of the totalitarian regimes we had been so proud to fight against.

    Like I said, I'm probably bit older than you, "Sir Foxx", and in some way, I guess, luckier, even though I didn't grow up with a computer in the house, much less a PSP or an iPod in my pocket. But I did grow up in an America that had principles. In an America that stood against torture and secret prisons and warrantless searches and unchecked government power. In an America that really was, in some true way, "the land of the free and the home of the brave".

    America is no longer the "land of the free" and it's certainly not the "home of the brave". Again, I don't blame you "Sir Foxx", anymore than a Roman of the Republic would have blamed a child who grew up under Caesars for thinking Augustus really was a god.

    But trust me, Americans used to be brave. Not your sort of brave, which is just the bravado of the scared bully, of the totalitarian state: "we can bomb you, we can make your life a living hell, unless you do what we say".

    Americans used to be brave in that we were willing to die for the liberties our Founding Fathers risked their lives to give us. We were willing to fight and die to protect the right of any knucklehead to criticise the President, because we knew that sometimes the President is a knucklehead.

    We used to be brave enough to risk getting on a train or plane without being treated like convicts or slaves or cattle, without being searched by blandly rude security guards.

    We used to be brave enough to "Live Free or Die", to say "Give me Liberty or give me Death". Now we Americans piss our pants and beg to put up with any indignity, and loss of freedom, for a little security.

    Nineteen hijackers didn't do this to us. Saddam didn't do this to us. Osama didn't do this to us. Yes, one terrible day Osama and his hijackers killed a bunch of Americans and shocked us all.

    But it wasn't Osama who surrendered our liberty and our principles and our decency. We've done that all on our own.

    Again, it's not your fault, "Sir Foxx". I blame your teachers. They never taught you what it really means to be an American.

    Yeah, we can make Iraq, in your words "a living hell for everyone". And we're busy doing it right here at home too.

  7. You put it in your lap... by bradleyland · · Score: 2, Informative

    then you can't make babies anymore.

  8. Re:Possible problems by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Informative
    But how do you anticipate whether a guerilla war will precipitate in the first place? The Bush administration didn't anticipate the mess in Iraq


    His father certainly did. Here's a quote George H. W. Bush, from back in 1991:


    While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. [...] Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome.

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