Mysterious MilkyWay Warp Finally Explained?
* * Beatles-Beatles writes to tell us Space.com is reporting that scientists think that a collision between mysterious 'dark matter' and two of the Milky Way's nearby neighbors may be causing our galaxy to warp 'like a vinyl record left out in the hot Sun.' From the article: 'The warp is most clearly visible in a thin disk of hydrogen gas that extends across the entire 200,000-light-year diameter of the Milky Way. Viewed sideways, one half of the hydrogen disk appears to stick up above our galaxy's plane of stars and gas, while the other half dips below the plane for a bit and then rises upward again farther away from the galaxy's center.'"
ScuttleMonkey (formerly Timothy) and * * Beatles-Beatles are conspiring to flood Slashdot with subparity.
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Now if only we could get that hydrogen disk into some fuel cells...
And I always thought it was something in my eye!
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* * Beatles-Beatles writes to tell us Space.com is reporting that scientists think that a collision between mysterious 'dark matter' and two of the Milky Way's nearby neighbors may be causing our galaxy to warp 'like a vinyl record left out in the hot Sun.'
Wow. A Slashdotter, a Slashdot "author" AND a space website conspiring to spam us...*sigh*
There was a related article in November-- with evidence pointing towards a massive black hole at the center of the LMC. (The Milky Way's closest neighbor)
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
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The warp is most clearly visible in a thin disk of hydrogen gas that extends across the entire 200,000-light-year diameter of the Milky Way.
Thin Disk? Next thing science will be telling us is that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth, and the earth is round.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
The article fails to say (or perhaps I missed it?) how severe the warp is nor how fast the warping is happening currently. Furthermore, it doesn't say when this warping was first recorded.
Am I the only one who read that as Mysterious MilkyWay Wrap Finally Explained?
I'm in between insightful sigs right now...
I've always wondered, how do we know our own galaxy's shape? From our point of view. do we just look 360, more stars there, less stars here, therefore we're on the rim side of the galaxy?
Preliminary reply, so that the moderators can go ahead and bitchslap (mod to -23829) this entire thread. I guess I have the karma to sacrifice for the sake of the arguement.
It's yet another post by * * Beatles Beatles, gone live via ScuttleMonkey.
Blah Blah BeatlesBeatles uses Slashdot's pagerank to get his stupid George Harrison page higher ranked in Google. We all know this, and we all know it's despicable. If you're curious, hover your mouse over his name - it goes to george-harrison.info - I'm not hot linking it, if you want to go there, cut and paste into a new browser window.
Anyway, the fact that the page is nothing but a link farm and that it has quite possibly the worst CSS stylesheet on the planet seems to overshadow the fact that this person's website has nothing to do with technology of any sort, which is why, admins, that we wonder what it's doing on the front page of slashdot day after day.
But, ALL THAT ASIDE, there's still something more disturbing.
I've been a member of the slashdot community for years now - I forget when I signed up, but it was either late 1999 or early 2000, so it's at least 5 years at this point. Over the years, I've submitted something like 10 or 15 links, and not yet had one posted. And I only submit things I actually find interesting, like AMD sues Intel. BeatlesBeatles has had 20 submissions greenlit in the past 3 months. That's about one a week. And they've all been posted by Scuttle Monkey.
Every time someone points this out, our fearless trolleader Jamie comes out in support of ScuttleMonkey and BeatlesBeatles saying there's nothing funny going on, it's just journalism. Well, Admins: This is what gets us riled up - Here's a clue. YOUR READERS ARE NOT DUMB. IF THEY READ SLASHDOT REGULARLY, THEY'RE NOT STUPID.
Looking at the facts, most of us draw the obvious conclusion.
1.) I've been a member of slashdot for a LONG TIME. My userid is 112121.
2.) Beatles-Beatles has been a member of slashdot for about 3 months. His UID is 909211.
3.) Beatles-Beatles has had 20 greenlit submissions, most of which regurgitate an article, offering no origional insight, and read like press releases.
4.) I have had no greenlit submissions, and I consider mine to have been at least moderately clever.
5.) Beatles-Beatles is profiting in a very tangible, dollars-in-the-pocket way from having his site linked from Slashdot.
6.) All of Beatles-Beatles submissions have been greenlit by ScuttleMonkey.
To look at these facts and not come to the same conclusion as the rest of us is ignorance. Furthermore, to dismiss these facts as pure coincidence is simply implying that your readers are stupid.
This is why we bitch. All we want is for someone to admit it. "ScuttleMonkey and Beatles-Beatles are friends - when BB submits a story, he sends an IM to ScuttleMonkey, and if it's moderately interesting, SM posts it to help a friend out". That's all we're looking for.
But, this thread will be bitchslapped, and I'll probably lose my (Meta)mod privs. Oh well. Maybe some day we'll get an honest answer out of the admins.
Here's hoping.
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"It might be dark matter
That's making the warp so bizarre!"
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I guess we should have known. The whole friggin' galaxy is warped.
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causing our galaxy to warp 'like a vinyl record left out in the hot Sun.'
Now that's what I call an extended LP.
then it's time to give Facilities a call. It's too hot in the Data Center!
If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
If you want to get the distance between yourself and an item you cannot touch, the primary way (afaik, for stars.) is to use trig. you get two different observation points, line of sight, looking at the object you want to get the distance to ['3rd point'], if you have the distance between the two observation points, and the angle that they form pointing to the 3rd point, you can figure the distance by using sine, cosine and tangents.
now here is why this science isn't exactly down to a science. the earth is only ~8000 miles in diamater, if two people are were on almost complete opposite sides of the world, even that wouldn't be nearly enough distance between the two points (when looking at a star, many hundreds of millions of miles out).
what they have done to enlarge the base of their 'triangle' is they look at a star in january, then they look at it again in june, so that we are on the completely other side of the sun. so, the distance from the earth to the sun is ~93 million miles, or 1 astronomical unit ('au'). so at this point they have about 200 million miles between the two points focusing in on the 3rd. now, 1au is 8 light minutes, so 2au is only 16 light minutes. so, if you wanted to measure say a star that was 1 light year away [525,948 light minutes] (btw, there aren't any that close), your 'triangle' would be patheticly miniscule. that would be somewhat the same as getting two surveyors to set up observation points 16 inches from eachother and getting them to focus in on a dot 525,948 inches away [8 1/4th miles away]. so a one light year triange has an angle of 0.17 deg. to measure a star 100 light years away, the angle becomes
i suggest you look more into this matter, many things like the red shift are dependant to a degree on this, and its more voodoo than science (still.)
It's one thing if he was posted evenly amongst the other editors. Okay, fine, they're all getting scammed by him.
But, with the exception of a CmdrTaco article, every other submission from this guy is posted by ScuttleMonkey. Why is that? It's proof they just don't care anymore at this site.
This crap is why people are flocking to Digg.com. Even though the discussions there suck because of no threading (yet), it's not really different from here, and when people are scamming the front page, everyone gangs together and undiggs it to remove it!
"Sufferin' succotash."
...which was to spam Beatles' site again, thanks to ScuttleMonkey, who exclusively delivers his submissions to the loyal Slashdot readership. But yeah, there's nothing sneaky going on! Promise!!
"Sufferin' succotash."
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Digg was designed by some talented people, but Digg is inhabited by incorrigible dunderheads whose comments are digital bumfodder.
The strength of Slashdot is its discussions. If you think that TFA is crap, I entreat you to peruse the One-Eyed Cat With No Nose article on Digg.
The rumours of Slashdot's death are greatly exaggerated and largely promoted by members of the Digg crowd, with the occasional assistance from Slashdotters who insist on presenting us their own damnably clever variations on the themes of Beowulf, Soviet Russia, and the welcoming of Overlords.
This is not to say that a wave of Dubya-level imbecility on the part of certain Tacos and Cowboys could ~not~ destroy Slashdot. But we're hardly there yet.
Or, in Digg-speak, "OMG U R 2 cluless LMAO!!!!"
Rich And Stupid is not so bad as Working For Rich And Stupid.
I just realized that the software that supposedly runs this site is supposedly open source. Have any of you old farts (or younger ones) reviewed the code? How is bitchslapping implemented? How is moderator access revocation implemented?
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ASCII art & subtle comment trolls were far more amusing than bad
Only solution is to complain to Slashdot's advertisers.
Tell 'em something like I know it's like going over your boss' head and complaining. But ScuttleMonkey & Co. don't really seem to care.
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Here's the abstract for the presentation by Leo Blitz on the warp. Anyone who was at the AAS, knows someone who does or understands dark matter professionally, how about telling us if this tablecloth fluttering mentioned by Blitz in TFA might be useful as a test of dark matter? Abstract follows.
AAS 207th Meeting, 8-12 January 2006
Session 40 Galactic Structure with WIMPS, STARS and Gas
Oral, Monday, 10:00-11:30am, January 9, 2006, Salon 1
[40.05] The Shape of the HI Warp in the Outer Milky Way Disk
E.S. Levine, L. Blitz, C. Heiles (UC Berkeley), M. Weinberg (University of Massachusetts, Amherst)
Although the warping of the disk of the Milky Way has been known since 1957, our work represents the first time the Milky Way warp has been quantitatively described and we find it to be both elegant and surprising. We examine the outer Galactic HI disk for deviations from the b=0 plane by constructing maps of disk surface density, mean height, and thickness. We find that the Galactic warp is well described by a vertical offset plus two Fourier modes of frequency 1 and 2, all of which grow with Galactocentric radius. The global warp demonstrates approximately an order of magnitude more power in each mode with azimuthal wavenumber m=0,1, and 2 than in any higher frequency mode; thus three and only three modes are necessary to describe the large-scale behavior of the warp. The power in the m=0 and m=2 modes grows starting from around 15 kpc; the m=1 mode is the most powerful everywhere in the outer disk. We outline six observational conclusions regarding the warp that any potential theoretical mechanism must satisfy. We will also show a movie that demonstrates the evolution of the three modes with time.
ESL and LB are supported by NSF grant AST 02-28963. CH is supported by NSF grant AST 04-06987.
I guess one *could* call it "explained", although involving this "mysterious dark matter" is much like explaning how the Sun can shine as "we now know the Sun get fueled by some mysterious nuclear process".
This explanation only highlights our problems with dark matter even more, and things get especially funny if it's later discovered if it didn't exist. Then watch a number of theories fall apart during a night.
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I think the implied objection is that you feel this fellow is profiting from net traffic that is the result of a special relationship with ScuttleMonkey. If the articles that are posted are topical and of interest, and certainly there are many postings on the topic of cosmological and astronomical facts, I think you have not much leg to stand on.
If the articles were irrelevant tripe, that is a different matter. You threw out your own judgement about the relevancy or the derivativeness of this fellow's particular postings, but choosing posted topics is not really a democratic process: you are not given the power to mod the topics, but you can mod the resulting discussion.
Which means you are trying to do what you have not the power to do and you are doing it by posting off-topic comments which is actually more objectionable according to the "rules" than anything. If I were you, I would be happy that you received enough community support for your opinion that you were modded up despite being off topic, :-).
Perhaps for amusement, you could try writing your own article about the inequities of Slashdot topic selection and then submit it for consideration as a posted topic. That would be a hoot. Imagine if they actually posted. Hard to argue about integrity in that case.
Anyway, cheerio. I understand your beef. But this is how far you get bitching at the establishment, even a good spirited open-source friendly one: 0 meters. Although, if the galaxy warps enough there could be some error in that measurement and you might actually make some progress in a billion years!
What conclusion am I to draw?
/. plays favorites?
/. is taking money to greenlight articles?
That
That wouldn't surprise me one bit. You know, the world isn't fair. Does it guarantee somewhere in the slashdot charter that slashdot will be fair about approving submissions?
Or are you accusing that perhaps someone at
If so, just come out and say it.
Personally I think it's a stretch, I just don't hold slashdot in high enough esteem that it would be worth paying to get articles like this on it (unlike crappy "comparo" articles).
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/8/20/95
Looks like ScuttleMoney^H^Hkey still doesn't get it, as well as other Slashdotters. So, let me repost this for the thousandst time.
Interesting thing is, ScuttleMonkey seems to use some standard template for * *Beatles-Beatles submissions, since ALL of them start by: "* * Beatles-Beatles writes to tell us...".
So, let me repost some earlier post of mine:
Ok, let's have a look at his george-harrison.info website. Aha, maybe the links at the bottom of the page? Yes, I see: http://george-harrison.info/reciprocal-links.html.
Sooo, what may be on that page? Quoting:
Looking at the link list (just a small excerpt):
What do we learn? * * Beatles-Beatles is an ugly link spammer who uses Slashdot to increase the PageRank of his own site, on which he hosts a link farm.
HTH!
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Boy, this thread is a trip. Parent's math is bunkum and your assertation which I directly quote above is also incorrect. Redshift has NOTHING to do with parallax measurements of distance, which can be calculated to many significant digits. Voodoo indeed. Don't believe everything you read on the internet that's modded +5, Informative...
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Also, global warming will be a thing of small concern.
Why if you are a right handed male your left nut hangs lower and if you are a left handed male your right nut hangs lower? This theory has not been explored for the ambidexterous (possibly they hang evenly or there is a third one. Not sure if this theory holds true for ovaries as well.
This beatles guy submits new, relevant content to slashdot on a regular basis. i never see him flame, bait, or otherwise demean anyone, and yet, you guys still pretend like he's the antichrist. Get a grip. he is not doing any harm by having his name linked to his personal merchandise site. i mean, come on, do you not think that he deserves a little user traffic for submitting relevant content? wait a second. why am i even posting this. the editors decide what goes up here, your opinion's are invalid on this subject. he submits relevant content, thus, he gets his article posted. end of.
I believe you have misunderstood me, because of my own obscurity.
I understand that the entire concept behind the spectroscope(which is what we read a 'redshift' off of), is based on the assumption that light acts much like sound (we still do not fully understand light). It goes like this. The doppler effect says that, if you are sitting in your car at a red light, and there is a huge 18 wheeler doing 75 in front and to the left of you, about to go through the green light, you will hear the sound from the 18 wheeler at a higher pitch frequency when it is coming towards you (since it is compressing the sound waves), and at a lower frequency when it has past you and it is moving away(since it is refracting the sound waves). now, the theory is, that possibly light does the same thing. a spectroscope breaks the star light through a prism and displays black lines going through one of the colors (black lines shifted through the red area = the star is moving away or black lines shifted to the blue area = the star is moving closer to us). this is not documented to be true, since we still do not fully understand the nature of light, although many people think they do. (many people say "light travels at 186 miles per second." and it seems noone knows the end to that statement to actually make it scientific. "light travels at 186 miles per second IN A VACUUM.". Noone knows exactly what light is, nor do they know that it always travels at the same speed throughout all time, space, and matter. think about the theories regarding black holes, that light can be attracted by gravity-- well, if light can be attracted by gravity, obviously the speed of light is not a constant. In 1999 Dr. Hau at Harvard slowed light down to 38 MPH, in 2000 Dallas Morning News (2/28/2000) said that some folks there slowed it down to 1MPH, then in 2001 nytimes had an article that said that scientists completely stopped light, held it in place, and then sent it out on its way.
this is the way in which my mind linked the two (red shift, and judging distances of stars), because we do not know that throughout space that the speed of light has remained a constant, and in that way these two subjects are very related. even evolutionist professors acknowledge that.
Another interesting study you may want to look into:
For the last few decades, everyone has been taught that the universe is expanding, and hey, it could be, i don't know -- but neither do the top scientists. mainly their evidence for the expanding universe is the red shift, a la "because of the red shift, we know the universe is expanding, that means it all used to be together, and that means that there was a big bang."
Interesting article from Science:
He has more accepted submissions for stories in the past three months than comments. Moreover most of his comments are links to other pages or just single sentences plain designed to attract moderation. I mean really, who bolds parts of sentences like that in their comments?
Some say he's not a bad guy. Not knowing I can't say.
What I can say is this - he may be a nice troll, but he's still a troll.
Despite how much I hate perl, I can go to slashcode and add rel="nofollow" MYSELF, but, the political/apathetic nature of slashdot will mean this will never get folded in.
cowboyneal, add a rel="nofollow" to ALL, EACH and EVERY link on slashdot please. Google doesn't browse at +5 and doesn't have a friends list.
How can an IT techie geeky site be so behind the times.
What makes me laugh is this site is an artificial mecca because the only reason we come here is to find out what everyone else is reading, not necessarily to read it ourselves, we see older news, but this has a critical mass of people using it that it is more informative as a twat-o-sphere-omometer.
Slashdot is digging it's own grave if it has become a site to find out what the blunt edge are reading.
Hey here is another thing cowboyneal, yes we are all impressed with your CAPTCHA, why not have it ONLY if posting as an AC, so I never have to enter it because my first preview ALSO LOGS ME IN YOU DUMB SHIT!
This is so painfully bad, it is like a deperate no life developer forcing his pitiful efforts in front of us for praise. But he screwed it up, he put it on the wrong page, and he has shown his utter INCOMPETENCE for development and design and usability. Dork!
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Why can't there just be no dark matter at all?
To be honest, the whole idea of it and how it just "has" to be there to make observations fit the theory just reminds me of how convinced scientists were of the existence of aether before the Michelson-Morly experiment in the late 19th century.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
The additional mass and friction with dark matter is not only causing the milkway to warp like a record in the sun but also results in the milkyway playing at 45 speed unlike other LP class galaxies that naturaly travel at 78.
In the not too distant future, next Sunday A.D.
Bah, humbug! That is what happens when the Intelligent Designer doesn't tension the wheel spokes properly...
Oh well, what the hell...
You had me until there.
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So...a mysterious warp that we can't explain may be explained by something ELSE we can't explain!? Guess the only thing constant is change. Hey, today it's a tree tomorrow it's a dog!
Did anyone get the license plate of that galaxy that hit us?
Where is the insurance company when you need them?
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Sounds like the name of a new candy bar.
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* * Beatles-Beatles writes to tell us Space.com is reporting that scientists think that a collision between mysterious 'dark matter' and two of the Milky Way's nearby neighbors may be causing our galaxy to warp 'like a vinyl record left out in the hot Sun.'
Oh, let me guess... That wouldn't happen to be a Beatles record, now would it?
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Conspiracy theories again run rampant as users accuse Slashdot Editors of being in cahoots with scam artists. Sounds like just a normal day at the office for me. Except that I've decided to say a few words on Slashdot article selection process and users who try to abuse it. Read on for my rant.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/10/14402
I just looked over his site http://www.george-harrison.info/ and it looks legitimate and not like a link farm. Just to be sure I went and looked at the site in the google cache, but it still looked okay to me. However there is a lot of upset here (and if you ask me: yes, there is definitely something fishy going on with ScuttleMonkey posting such a slew of * * Beatles-Beatles submissions) Maybe I am missing something here and in case he's guilty, this is where you report him: http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html To their credit Google takes these reports seriously and investigates them.
Posted the above rant before I saw CmdrTaco's article on this topic. Feel free to mod my comment off-topic.
Q: What the hell do the beatles and science have in common? A: Entymology. m
Wasnt there a story a couple of months ago about dark matter not existing? I am not sure whether i believe that, though it sounded plausible.
a rk_matter_sidebar_010105.html
(The article was about that the classical approximation just wasnt good enough, the mass came out correct without dark matter with general relativity.)
But when some mass is missing in the estimates, it seems like that mysterious "dark matter" of which we know _nothing_ is blamed, just stuff some of that where your missing mass.
Here a quote from when you click through darkmatter:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/d
"By measuring these mysterious effects of gravity, researchers determine how much "extra" gravity is present, and hence how much extra mass, or dark matter, must exist."
Thank you for making my point space.com (i know maybe not the most scientific source, but gravity really is the only way to measure "dark matter" currently)
By the way dark energy isnt so vague, i am convinced that that exists.
also how did they simulate the dark matter?
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This could result in the part of the Earth that the US is located in to be weighed down which is warping the entire System.
Five digits? Bah! Newcommers.
(-1 offtopic me now, please)
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Does this explain the stock out of $35 telescopes at Wal-Mart's world-wide?
here
I mean, okay, in theory it's off-topic to talk about something that isn't the article; but where else on Slashdot would one talk about Slashdot? All that really exists here is random articles and people commenting about them (yeah, yeah, there's diaries, but that's hardly where most of the talking goes on, and saying that people can complain there is like saying they can protest anywhere they want as long as it's in a designated protest area).
/. as a "big public wanking session" is here, interesting at least as context and certainly as far as seeing what The Big Guy In Open Source has to say about, well, what everyone is talking about in this thread.
4 0&from=rss>a better story in which to post this stuff, but I figured I should post here since I was replying to the parent anyways. And screw it if it's off topic, he does reference an interesting post by Linus, and personally I'm quite okay with "off-topic" if it also means "nonetheless very interesting"! (But I have to say, CmdrTaco's post is somewhat convincing).
Take a wider view here. Slashdot has alot to say about Linux, really, all the time, and arguably Linus is the most important single person in that area. So mentioning something that he says about Slashdot itself is almost more on topic than a story could even be!
For the record, the page where he describes
Of course, go ahead and ignore what I say, since I guess (finally re-checking the RSS feed) that I was too late in writing this, and that there already is http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/10/14402
I remember sigs. Oh, a simpler time!
This clearly is the result of the CD age, back in the LP age everyone knew you don't stack em flat, you store them on their edge to prevent warping. Just set the milky way on its edge and the warp will go away.