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Algae That Cleans Emissions and Produces Fuel

**$tarDu$t** writes "Isaac Berzin, a rocket scientist at MIT has come up with an idea for using algae to clean up power-plant exhaust. His research began 3 years ago in an experiment for growing algae on the International Space Station. His idea consists of building algae farms near power plants to provide a means to reduce CO2 and nitrous oxide emissions. Emissions are filtered through the algae. Then the CO2 saturated algae is harvested and squeezed to produce a combustible vegetable oil (biodiesel) and a dried green substance that can be further processed into ethanol."

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  1. covered on PBS by LEPP · · Score: 5, Informative

    They had a Scientific American segment on this. Here is the segment transcript. It was quite interesting.

    LEPP

  2. Re:Better Strains and Algae Zeppelins? by Politburo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't have a biology degree but it seems to me that there might be faster ways of creating strains more efficient at harvesting/reducing CO2.

    Well gee, please do enlighten the biologists then.

    The article seems to make it sound like just having the algae exposed to the air near a plant.

    Did you miss this part in the summary in your rush for FP? "Emissions are filtered through the algae."

  3. Re:UNH Biodeisel? by PaintyThePirate · · Score: 4, Informative

    The UNH study is based on a ~20 year U.S. DoE study on algae biodiesel. Anyway, while it is true that there is enough land in the United States to grow enough algae to replace all gasoline and diesel fuel use, it's not the ideal solution. The problem is that the algae requires something around 13% CO2 gas to grow in any useful amount. The level of CO2 naturally occuring in the atmosphere is about 0.035%. The only economical source to generate that much CO2 is burning Coal. So, the entire process still yields tremendoes amounts of CO2, contributing to global warming. Certainly, it is better to harness CO2 from existing Coal power plants for biodiesel instead of releasing it into the atmosphere, but it is not a permanent solution.

  4. Re:How does this really help? by Politburo · · Score: 2, Informative

    What happens when you burn the methanol and biodiesel? Doesn't that just release the stored CO2 and Nitrogen Oxides back into the atmosphere, or am I missing something here?

    Yes, you are. See in the current situation, both powerplant CO2 and vehicle CO2 (and NOx) are being emitted from different energy sources. For the sake of argument, let's assume equal amounts of emissions are emitted from the powerplant and the vehicles.

    So you put in the algae and you get .4x CO2 out the powerplant stack, and let's assume the remainder goes to biodiesel. You burn that 100% biodiesel in a car, get you get your .6x CO2 back. CO2 before: 2x. CO2 after: x. Obviously the real-world numbers won't be as good, but there's still an obvious emission reduction.

  5. Re:How does this really help? by slcdb · · Score: 2, Informative
    am I missing something here?
    Yes. The theory is that you'd get twice the amount of use from the same amount of CO2 emissions -- once to generate electricity, and again to drive some cars (or something else). End result is total CO2 emissions are reduced because driving the cars only emitted the CO2 that the electicity generation plant would have already emitted otherwise.
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  6. Re:Alright, another idea that will go nowhere! by SchrodingersRoot · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd like to point out that many alternative fuels are already used

    Biodiesel is already in use, as it (as I understand) functions is normal diesel engines without and retrofitting.

    Hybrid cars are becoming commonplace

    Many companies are planning on making ethanol capable models--Ford even has the CEO of Ford making some promises on-air (not that that necessarily means they'll live up to them)

    Various mass transit systems are putting hydrogen fuel cells, ethanol, and biodiesel into production. Mass transit systems, by the way, can provide an answer to the chicken/egg problem for alternative fuel vehicles. Since companies won't create a signficant number of vehicles until there's an infrastructure to support them, so people will buy them, and an infrastructure won't be built until there's a market, there's traditionally been a problem. However, governments have the money and the muscle to bring both of them into being at the same time, if in a limited capacity. Mass transit systems can have buses, for example, fuel at the depots, to start with. They could also open the depot up for public purchase. As more mass transit systems adopt alternative fuels, more fuel stations will arise, and more people will purchase alternative energy vehicles. Slow, maybe, but potentially very effective.

    Things don't happen overnight, but they do happen.

  7. Re:How does this really help? by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 4, Informative
    What happens when you burn the methanol and biodiesel? Doesn't that just release the stored CO2 and Nitrogen Oxides back into the atmosphere, or am I missing something here?
    Yes, it ends up in the atmosphere in the end, but you get to use it twice. If you're going to polute, you might as well pollute in a way that maximises the energy generated per quantity of carbon dioxide produced. Also, this could partially solve a political problem of reliance on foreign fuel.
    Also, if these algae are so great, why don't we fill up thousands of acres with them, not just 15,000, and suck the CO2 and Nitrogen Oxides out of the atmosphere, reducing greenhouse gasses. Maybe the algae could then be dumped into the deep ocean, creating a carbon sink.
    I assume that the algae grows better in an environment with a high concentration of carbon dioxide, such as power plant exhaust. The gains from pumping regular air through an algae filter would be less dramatic (and you could probably acheive a similar result by, say, planting a tree).
  8. Real world implementation by ikornalot · · Score: 4, Informative

    This has been under discussion here since 2004.

  9. I've got some links to related research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    cellulosic ethanol: involving enzymes to break down any biological material into ethanol.

    Widescale biodiesel production from algae: Summarizes a study which shows that to grow enough algae to fuel America's current oil needs, would require 15,000 square miles of algae ponds.

    Biodiesel from algae: Summarizes a news article describing GreenFuels technology and a similar plan to grow algae from power plant exhaust.

  10. Related Yahoo group by flicken · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Yahoo group, oil_from_algae has many knowledgeable people who are currently looking into the best strains of algae to grow, as well as methods for extracting oil from the algae.

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  11. Re:Better Strains and Algae Zeppelins? by Rhinobird · · Score: 2, Informative

    The article seems to make it sound like just having the algae exposed to the air near a plant.

    Actually, I got the impression that they diverted the flue gasses from the powerplant and bubbled them through the algae; instead of just venting the gases right into the air.

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  12. all time favorite by alex_guy_CA · · Score: 3, Informative
    This issue was previously reported on Slashdot. last year

    I have to say, as an environmentalist, this line of research is one of the most hopeful I have seen. Besides cleaning power emissions, it can clean farm and industrial waste while generating fuel.

    While at a farm products convention I talked to the bio- diesel and ethanol people from Iowa about this stuff. They had never heard of it, which is a shame. It seems like there should be better ways to get good ideas out there, but I guess market forces are the best we can do considering the government is so in line with the status quo.

  13. Re:Better Strains and Algae Zeppelins? by arivanov · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nope you are not wrong. Algae are an extreme pain in the arse to grow. They require loads of sun, loads of CO2 and the moment their concentration reaches a usefull level the broth tends to start dieing out, bacteria take over and contaminate the broth. So on. Of course, growing them for fuel is different from growing them for biotech where you need them "pure", but still. The idea of using algae is wildly optimistic.

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  14. Re:Better Strains and Algae Zeppelins? by hankwang · · Score: 2, Informative
    Algae are an extreme pain in the arse to grow. They require loads of sun, loads of CO2

    Tell this to anyone who has an aquarium, artifical pond in the garden, or swimming pool. I'd say it is an extreme pain in the arse to prevent algae from growing in any water that is exposed to light. I have seen them grow in cooling-water hoses that were only exposed to fluorescent light tubes. Mind you, the cooling-water circuit was filled with deionized water, so all the nutrients must have been leaking out of the various stainless steel, brass and plastic parts.

  15. Re:Did anyone balance the energy "budget"? by Bryansix · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are missing the point entirely. Let's take a look at the alternative of using gasoline in cars.

    1) Drill for Oil
    (Burn Fuel)

    2) Pump Oil up to the surface
    (Burn Fuel)

    3) Pump oil in pipeline to tanker ships
    (Burn Fuel)

    4) Transport Oil across world's oceans
    (Burn lots of Fuel)

    5) Truck Oil to refineries
    (Burn Fuel)

    6) Refine Oil into usable form and add MTBE
    (Burn Fuel and harm the groundwater)

    7) Truck gasoline to gas stations
    (Burn Fuel)

    Yet with all of that it is still economical to do. So any process designed to replace it doesn't have to be that effecient to beat using fossil fuels.