Thunderbird 1.5 Arrives

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Posted by Zonk on Thursday January 12, 2006 @01:45AM from the fresh-from-their-brains-to-your-door dept.

Tech Support writes "Thunderbird 1.5 is here! It's ready to download, so get going. Finally, Firefox 1.5 has its counterpart. New features included automatic updates, anti-phishing protection, inline spellchecking, saved search folders, podcasting, RSS improvements, the ability to delete attachments from messages, and a whole lot more."

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Re:But does it have... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · 2006-01-12 01:48 · Score: 2, Insightful

Isn't that what Sunbird is supposed to be for?

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Deleting attachments from messages. by aphoenix · 2006-01-12 01:52 · Score: 3, Insightful

That's a tasty feature. Why isn't there a "Spread Thunderbird" website? mmm... Spread...
it is by Colin+Smith · 2006-01-12 01:53 · Score: 4, Insightful

It'd be nice if they were aware of each other.

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Podcasting? In an email application?? by timbck2 · 2006-01-12 02:10 · Score: 4, Insightful

Can anyone say "feature creep"?

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1. Re:Podcasting? In an email application?? by GeorgeH · 2006-01-12 03:00 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  RSS makes sense to me in an email app. An RSS feed can be thought of as a publicly readable email account, accessed over HTTP instead of POP3 or IMAP. And RSS items sometimes have attachments, just like emails.
  
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No, and in addition... by SenorCitizen · 2006-01-12 02:15 · Score: 2, Insightful

...the Calendar XPI add-on that I used with 1.06 doesn't work with the new version. Bummer. This seems to be a problem with all Firefox/Thunderbird updates -- add-ons never seem to work with new versions. Or rather, they're blocked automatically even if they would work without an update.
Re:Vertical Panes? by davidstrauss · 2006-01-12 02:20 · Score: 4, Insightful

Yeah, but it sucks because Thunderbird doesn't support the part that makes it workable: multiline listings for the messages. You can't comfortably fit message data in a small column without a creative layout.
Re:On 1.5 you can. by craznar · 2006-01-12 02:23 · Score: 2, Insightful

"Then to associate the server you want for a particular account. " However, SMTP servers are not associated with an account, but a connection. Unless you have lots of open relays in your ISPs, which I don't.

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Re:Don't... make... me... choose... by mrchaotica · 2006-01-12 02:35 · Score: 2, Insightful

I use Mail too, but I still have to have Thunderbird anyway. Now, if only Apple would make a News.app...

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Re:hope they fixed some of the more glaring bugs by Anonymous Coward · 2006-01-12 02:38 · Score: 1, Insightful
When you check mail from multiple accounts, does it tell you yet
- Which account it's checking
- How big the mail messages it's downloading are
- How long to completion
Us poor people who still can only get dialup really could use that.
Mozilla Address Book by JoaoPinheiro · 2006-01-12 02:43 · Score: 2, Insightful

Great, now if only they could actually put some work into improving the Mozilla Address Book...

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Re:Does it move sent mail into the appropriate fol by MemRaven · 2006-01-12 02:48 · Score: 4, Insightful
The problem is that it's pretty easy to get a pretty massive web-mail account these days (free for GMail, very little cost for anybody else), but try getting an IMAP account with 2GB+ of mail space. I mean, seriously. If I could find one, I would gladly pay a reasonable amount of money for it, but I've never seen one that offers:
- A reasonable (1GB+) amount of disk space.
- IMAP and webmail access.
I've seen various combinations (particularly a large amount of disk space with POP), but never a really good IMAP service. If someone knows of one please let me know!
Re:wow by JourneymanMereel · 2006-01-12 03:10 · Score: 2, Insightful

You mean something like SeaMonkey?

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why, yes by zogger · 2006-01-12 03:27 · Score: 2, Insightful

yes, I did, see the smiley there in my post? heh. Seamonkey is the original idea for what mozilla used to offer, and it's still the best idea, an integrated solution. When the official moz emphasis switched to stand alone apps, I distinctly remember people bringing up the "uncoordinated versions" potential problem, and they were told it was a minimal problem. Now we can see it is a problem, and it will continue to be a problem, especially with all the extensions and plug ins and trying to get them to work across different applications since the "great breakup".

Anyway, yes, I use seamonkey and encourage others to do so as well. I want one app that works for the most common web surfing uses. Choice is good here.
Attachments still conquer my screen by Conanymous+Award · 2006-01-12 03:55 · Score: 2, Insightful

I'm an avid user of Thunderbird, but unfortunately v1.5 still doesn't fix my pet peeve with the app: the enormo-attachment-list-you-can't-hide.

Mailing list digests have the separate messages included as attachments, and on my 1024x768 screen resolution the attachment list, which Thunderbird finds obligatory to show, takes up a huge area.

Dammit, how difficult can it be to put a little clickable arrow there so that I could minimize the attachment list??? Or have I missed an option somewhere?
Re:Thunderbird attachment pane bugs by Derek+Pomery · 2006-01-12 03:57 · Score: 2, Insightful

I unfortunately do not have firefox to examine, but in the suite, the attachment list uses a listbox. The thunderbird screenshot looks similar.
In the suite, this listbox has has rows="3" set in attributes.
I see no reason the same could not be done in Thunderbird.

It is completely possible to set a max height on the list box, what is moderately annoying is that similar to the
element in HTML, since the list is intended to be scrollable, this doesn't trigger scrollbars until the rowcount is hit.

To fix this in Thunderbird would probably require editing the XUL file. Just like in web development, not *everything* can be done in CSS. In this case, requires ability to tweak a little "HTML" too. :)

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Re:hope they fixed some of the more glaring bugs by PetoskeyGuy · 2006-01-12 04:32 · Score: 2, Insightful

Message filtering is still archaic.

Someone had some fun playing with XUL and changed the interface, but the core message filtering is still an All or Any situation.
no, they don't by penguin-collective · 2006-01-12 05:36 · Score: 3, Insightful

So we'll have TBird, Firefox, and a Calendar all running off 3 instances of the same runtime engine - hey, that's SMART!

Yes, it is, because it means that they all can use different versions of the runtime engine.

For the life of me, I can't figure out:

Well, keep thinking about it, maybe eventually you will figure it out. It makes sense to me: Firefox, Thunderbird, and OOo get the job done with a memory footprint, speed, and release dates that I can live with. That's what counts.