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Galileo Sends Its First Signals

VVrath writes "Galileo, the European answer to the US Military-owned GPS has sent it's first signals to ground stations in the UK and Belgium. The first satellite in the Galileo system, Giove-A was launched on December 28th 2005, and is set to be followed by a further 29 satellites by 2010. At a cost of over $4 Billion, is this system really going to offer any major advantages over GPS, or is it merely a politicised 'anything you can do we can do better' by the European Space Agency?"

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  1. hum by McGiraf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it not 'anything you can do we can do better' by the European Space Agency it's 'you cannot prevent us from using this one USA' by the European Space Agency.

  2. Submitters stop with the editorials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    or is it merely a politicised 'anything you can do we can do better' by the European Space Agency?"

    What the hell is this?? More like anybody with more than 1/2 a fuckin brain realizes its a BAD idea to have the only positioning system run by a country who has made it blatantly obvious they don't care about what any other countries feel.

  3. Re:Better than US GPS? by HugePedlar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to mention that it won't be turned off or degraded in times of war, or on the whim of one country's military - quite a necessity for a technology that people and corporations will come to rely on more and more.

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  4. Re:Those Gosh-Darned Europeans by timeOday · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Agreed, this is like asking "Why does Britain needs an air force when the US already has one?"

    As it happens, this will also be good for all of us. Galileo promises sub-meter accuracy, faster acquisition, and better penetration through cover.

    I'll be pleased as punch to accept this gift from Europe.

  5. Fucking moron flamebait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why include such idiocy in the story? One very obvious advantage over GPS that is stated in the fucking article is that the USA reserves the right to switch GPS off. And, with ten seconds over at Wikipedia, you could find out that Galileo has a much better resolution than GPS. So mod entire story as -1, Flamebait - because there's no -5, Fucking Idiot At The Wheel option.

  6. Re:USA Leads, Rest of World Follows by MikeWasHere05 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how Americans get a bad reputation as arrogant fools. I was agreeing with this poster until the "The United States of America is the greatest country in the history of the world. This Earth belongs to the US, the rest just live here." line.

    Yes, the US does do great things. Yes, the US does make some mistakes (as does any country.) But to say that the world belongs to the US is just pure arrogance.

    -Mike
    A proud citizen of the United States of America

  7. Re:Better than US GPS? by Erwos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If by "workaround", you mean centimeter-level accuracy, sure. Differential GPS is already being used by many people who require insane levels of accuracy - I've seen it in action, and it's damned impressive. You can also use it while moving, so the idea that GPS isn't good enough for aircraft is kind of stupid. P-code is not the end-all, be-all of accuracy, in any case.

    Reading these posts, it's pretty obvious that the last exposure some people had to GPS information was in 1997 or something. Low-res selective availability? That got turned off in like 2000. And "turning off GPS for Europe" sounds kind of stupid, too - are American pilots just going to fly into the dark all the sudden? A little less paranoia, and a little more education, please...

    -Erwos

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  8. Re:Politics? by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...France, Germany and the U.K. start argueing over trivial issues.

    Trivial issues, you mean like theEuropean Constitution or farm subsidies, which are a substantial portion of the EU's budget?

    The EU has been arguing over very, very substantial issues for a long time. The question is whether or not the Union will survive them. My money used to be on no, and is slowly moving towards yes. This is mainly because I believe integration will slow down; we'll have a European identity, and a great deal of cooperation, but I do not think Europe will ever become a superstate.

    Personally, I think that's a good thing.

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    WhiteWolf666 an exBush supporter. All you new-school,compassionate,save the children Republicans can rot in hell
  9. Re:Staying Competitive: Europe vs. USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is amazing that switzerland apears to have a larger crime rate then the US. This site http://www.gunowners.org/sk0703.htm apears to say that gun ownership has the oposite effect in crime then what is popularly taunted too.

    It's funny how ignorant you are. Your sources are highly biased and you even succeeded to counter your own assertions.

    Switzerland and Finland have most guns per person in Europe. In Switzerland many of the guns people have are military grade. That's because militia personnel are required to keep their guns at home as part of their military obligations. So how do you explain that even though people in Switzerland have powerful guns at their homes, there's still according to your sources a higher crime rate than in US? Weren't the guns supposed to lower the crime rate?

    In Finland guns are mostly hunting rifles. Virtually nobody in big cities owns a hand gun. I'm from Finland, and can guarantee you that the low crime rate is not because people in the country side own guns, it's mostly because Finland is a very socialistic country when compared to US or even Switzerland. We take care of our poor, so they don't have to steal from other people to make a living. We also give a decent education to our poor, so they have a chance to get a decent job.