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iTunes Credited with Boosting Primetime Ratings

grandgator writes "TV Week reports on NBC's claims that iTunes downloads are boosting ratings for their primetime shows. Citing one example 'NBC's "The Office" delivered a 5.1-its highest ratings ever-last Thursday among adults 18 to 49, a bump the network credits in large part to the show's popularity as an iPod download. Such a connection between podcast success and broadcast ratings success is particularly significant because the NBC data is among the first available evidence of what network executives have been gambling on when striking their new media deals-that the new video platforms are additive because they provide more entry points into a show for consumers.'"

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  1. That can't be right by wheany · · Score: 4, Funny

    The article must mean that the ratings have declined due to rampant piracy. Why would anyone watch something off the tv if they can pirate it from the iTunes online store.

  2. podcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Speaking of The Office (original version), and iTunes. Ricky Gervais has a podcast. See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/rickygervais/

  3. Makes sence by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 5, Informative

    Although I'm fairly disappointed in the way Apple delivers their TV content (too small, can't burn to DVD, etc), iTunes is the reason I have started to tune into shows such as The Office.

    Moreover, it's the only (legal) way I can watch Battlestar Galactica on a weekly basis.

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    1. Re:Makes sence by cmdrbuzz · · Score: 3, Informative

      True, not everyone lives in the US, however in order to be-able to purchase TV shows from iTunes, you have to have a US credit card.

    2. Re:Makes sence by gutnor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There are people out there that don't want to pay 50$/month for Cable TV. Or even have the TV.

      I know, I don't have a TV. Most of my friends don't have a TV. I don't care paying for digital joy 24/7, I have internet and a monthly subscription to a postal dvd service, and that's enough for me. If tomorow I get bored, I would rather take WoW than TV !

      However from time to time ( like for Battlestar Galactica ) I would like to be able to download 1 specific show ( .. I mean legally download .. ) without waiting 3/6 months for it to be available on DVD rental.

      But anyway, I'm out of luck, there is no itune download here in the uk ...

  4. Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    *Gasp* *Shock* *Horror* Do you really mean that if you give the viewers what they want, they will be happy? No way, I don't believe you!

  5. iTunes Payola by capt.Hij · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How long will it now take before we start seeing iTunes Payola. Networks eager to get their shows on people's ipods will certainly be tempted to try to strike special deals to make their shows more easily obtainable. They may try to offer Apple cash, try to reduce the cost to consumers, or try to find ways to get their links on the front page. If it happens, can an individual state try to take action against the practice? This may turn out to be another interesting episode of the theatre of greed.

    1. Re:iTunes Payola by heatdeath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Networks eager to get their shows on people's ipods will certainly be tempted to try to strike special deals to make their shows more easily obtainable

      This makes no sense. People aren't going to browse iTunes looking for good TV shows to watch. They're going to download the shows that they missed. This makes the series more watchable, because missing a single episode doesn't ruin the plot. (It also makes it more portable)

      But, your scenario you described is silly. You fail.

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  6. Wish I could say I predicted this... by jcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But all I can say is that it doesn't surprise me at all.

    When the video is available from iTMS, it's uncoupled from the network schedule. You can send an episode to a friend as a gift. You can buy one show and see whether you want any more, and the critical thing is, you can watch it anytime you want. It's a whole new ball game.

    -jcr

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  7. It's obvious! by heatdeath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Before, I had to watch TV for free on that terrifying screen that was so easy on my eyes. Now I can pay money to watch it on a tiny screen that I have to hold in a viewable position for 40 consecutive minutes.

    No wonder video iPods are such a hit.

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    1. Re:It's obvious! by peragrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Or you can get a clue and join the real world.

      I wanted to see how it was so I downloaded the free battlestar galatica season opener special. I played it on my TV just fine and it looked just like the regular shows. Other than the fact it was commercial free and I could pause it at will.

      So i downloaded the season 2 and every night for 4 nights I watched 2-3 episodes to get the season i missed. Now I can watch the new episodes without having missed anything.

      On my TV downstairs on the couch. I do wish HD was an option but that's okay for $2 I can watch it when i want to without interruption.

      What I want to know though is is apple selling more quicktime pro licenses. It's the only way to get good fullscreen viewing of protected content. I wish mplayer would work but it doesn't.

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  8. Re:Paying for TV is for morons by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, iTunes shows also lack commercials and also go online the very next day. But these are legal and download a hell of a lot faster then they would on BT.

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  9. Re:Paying for TV is for morons by tbone1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Who in their right mind would pay for television episode downloads? IRC and Bittorrent has these episodes in glorious XVid format without the bullshit commercials.

    Um, it could be that some people believe in paying for something that isn't theirs, and that they may perceive IRC and Bittorrent to be stealing? I know, these wacky oldsters with their fax machines and hula hoops and libertarian ideas about property rights ...

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  10. If Only... by Placebo+Messiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...Fox would have pulled their collective heads out of their universal ass before they cancelled Arrested Development and podcasted it to supplement the ratings.

  11. Mass media entertainment to the rescue? by wing03 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I suppose at its best, you could have a world where people get out of their cars, saving the air, and use the travel time on public transit to do their TV watching.

    At its worst, there'll be alot of iPod video junkies strung out waiting for their next hit.

    TV anywhere and everywhere, the new opiate for the masses.

  12. Good for The Office, good (?) for NBC by fighthairloss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm glad to see the success of The Office online. Overall, I suppose NBC (or whoever made the decision within NBC to iTunes-enable their primetime) should be congratulated for their forsight.

    A few things I wonder about though:

    1. now that NBC's taken this (presumably risky, in their minds) step in new-fangled distribution, and now that they've seen some early signs of success, will they now believe they invented this new medium and start demanding higher pricing, forced purchase of "blocks" of episodes, or -gasp- more DRM restrictions from Jobs & co?

    2. Does anyone know the story behind NBC's decision to go iTunes in the first place? I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking there was a rebel executive somewhere who had to do jump through hoops to convince management that this was a good choice. Of course, that just might be jaded old me predisposed to think the worst of labels and studios based on their traditional less-than-progressive stances on anything that challenges their conventional wisdom.

    3. I wonder at what point is it financially worth it for a studio to produce a "TV" show and sell it exclusively off-air. For example, Arrested Development is one of the most brilliant shows to come on in years, but it's doing rather poorly in viewer ratings. Conceivably, if it sold on iTunes, and DVD & iTunes sales were strong enough, would a studio ever have enough balls to make a TV show that wasn't distributed on TV?

  13. It's happened before by spectrumCoder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It should be obvious that distribution of a show, legal or otherwise, is going to get more people watching it. But no network exec would write a press release saying, "thanks to internet piracy, more people have heard of and are watching our show".

    But now that iTunes is offering their shows (and paying them for every download) they're suddenly very keen to advertise the positive role that the internet can play in increasing exposure to their programmes.

    Overall, though, it's definitely a good thing. Any press that demonstrates that internet downloads can benefit tv corporations as well as harming them increases the chance of a decent compromise between illegal file-sharing and drm'ed-to-the-gills restrictive legal downloads.

  14. The irony by Stan+Vassilev · · Score: 4, Informative

    "TV Week reports on NBC's claims that iTunes downloads are boosting ratings for their primetime shows."

    This comes after weeks long scandals by the TV networks that the iPod videos would ruin their ratings.

    Well this is great, because MPAA and RIAA will finally acknowledge the need for legal instant internet movie downloads, and stop claiming that piracy costs them in the billions ignoring the promotion value! Not.

  15. Re:Paying for TV is for morons by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I know, these wacky oldsters with their fax machines and hula hoops and libertarian ideas about property rights ...

    Libertarians support government-enforced monopolies restricting certain forms of speech for corporate profit? Interesting.

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  16. You hear that Bluth family! by toupsie · · Score: 4, Funny
    Get Arrested Development in the iTunes store! I am sure George Michael can figure out how to rip episodes and upload them. He's a smart kid. Otherwise, Fox is going to cancel your show and you will be listening to "Christmas Time Is Here" all the time.

    I am so sick of Fox being the network where great shows go to die.

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  17. Huh? by MadJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay now this makes absolutely no sense at all. Downloading tv-shows from Bittorrent declined the ratings, but downloading from iTunes actually increases ratings?
    How are those two different? (aside from the money factor)

    1. Re:Huh? by Carthag · · Score: 4, Funny

      Obviously bittorrent users are not interested in watching the show, they simply download them to stick it to the man. Good point, though :)

  18. Been on my mind recently. by NXprime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I keep pinching myself in utter disbelief that the furture has come where a-la-carte programming would be real. Now it is and I can watch my favorite shows anywhere I want. iTunes is a direct download service with no viruses, dead torrent links, tracker downtime, RIAA threats, slow downloads, or any bothersome thing like that. Video quality is so nice on my 17" CRT monitor that it's just like watching a TV rip but better quality since there's no logo's anywhere or scrolling text, or weather updates or any crap like that. I tell ya, I wouldn't have it any other way. Freedom from commericals, folks. It's the read deal and I couldn't be any happier. NBC/ABC has all the good shows anyway like Lost, BSG, Monk, and The Office so we're not missing much from the other loser networks that refuse to join up with iTunes. That free Monk episode and SNL skit was just the icing on the cake.

    As for buying all episodes on iTunes, that would be a mistake. I plan on buying Monk on DVD & ripping it so I can watch it again (some for the first time) on my PC. Too much glare watching it on an iPod but for long road trips life without it would be unbarable. But from time to time, like an SNL skit for example, it can't be beat. /hugs Steve Jobs. =)....

  19. Re:What is a 5.1? by TobascoKid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oops, actually that's the rating in the 18-49 demographic - so 5.1% of 18 - 49 year olds watched the show. You also get household ratings, which just tell you what percentage of households watched a show. So while a show may get a household rating of 3, it might get a 18-49 of 5 - meaning that the show is more popular among people 18 - 49 than against the population in general.

    18-49 is considered a good demographic to target - as they do most of the spending.

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  20. Re:Paying for TV is for morons by Shihar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, it isn't for morons. It is for people who don't steal and (far more importantly) people who don't have time to waste looking for a bit torrent link that works and is offering something of quality.

    The other Friday I missed Battlestar Galactica. Sure, I could have done what I used to do was the fuck around with BT to get it. Instead though, I just threw them 2 bucks, which for a guy with a job is nothing, and got a good quality version without any hassle.

    Hell, the reason why I will pay for a TV show is the same reason why I will pay for a videogame. First, I don't want to be a douche and not give the people who made it their due. Second, it is just a hell of a lot easier to simply buy what you want then to screw around trying to download it.

    At this point, the only thing I am waiting for now is for all TV programming to be offered free, any time, but with commercials. It is down right archaic that I need to be in front of the television at a certain time to watch a show. I should be able to watch it whenever I damn well please with commercials. Just disable the fastforward function while viewing commercials and you have something as good as normal TV.

  21. Watching shows around the water cooler by dim5 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I love The Office (US version, never seen the UK version). I've been watching it since day 1 and telling everyone I know about it. But here's the thing. Have you ever listened to someone describe a funny TV show? It's awful. Not only is it impossible to reproduce the timing and context of the show that made it funny, but now the person forced to listen to you imitating Homer Simpson must guess as to whether you just can't do a good Homer, or if the writing for the Simpsons really isn't funny.

    PMPs finally make it possible for me to come in the next day and say, "hey, you've got to watch this clip from last night's Office." I would certainly get more people to start watching the show by actually showing them part of the show than by possibly injuring someone with my horrible Dwight impersonation.

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  22. I would, and did by snowwrestler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We taped The Office last week but the tape ran out halfway through. So the next day I check on iTunes and sure enough, there was the episode. $2 and a few minutes later it was playing on my TV (and it looked great).

    I guess I could have searched for a clean copy of it on IRC or BT, but I value my time pretty highly. To be a better value than $2, I would pretty much have to find it the instant I started looking. That's both a) pretty unlikely and b) exactly what happened on iTunes anyway.

    TV shows on iTunes were definitely worth it for me. I can't say I'll be buying every show--more likely I'll just use it when I miss a show I wanted to see. For the cost of a Coke and candy bar I'll now be able to get it easily.

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