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Getting Fingerprint Readers to Read Your Prints?

crypticgeek asks: "I recently obtained a new job, and I'm already at my wit's end. Many of the doors in our facility have finger print readers because they are high security areas. No matter how hard I've tried, I can't get the system to read my prints very well, since they aren't well 'defined'. This means I don't have access to the areas I need to. I have to have someone else let me in to secure areas. I've tried using lotion thinking they were too dry, but that didn't work. In fact, most of the time my hands are really sweaty. Someone suggested I use nail polish remover and that would 'raise' the print, however I'm skeptical. Has anyone else had problems with finger print devices, or know of some possible ways of getting a better read?"

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  1. In the old days by 2.7182 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The FBI has a special recommended way to clean hands before getting prints. You washed your hands in soap, then rinsed in alcohol, and then air dryed, no towel.

  2. Not your problem by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sit at your desk with no work to do, buddy. Just be sure to set something in motion to get someone else who's job it is to fix these sort of problems on it.

    Why should you trouble yourself if the company's assclown policies are preventing you from doing work?

  3. Suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you tried taking your gloves off?

  4. Whooa! by pmc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have to have someone else let you into secure areas? This strikes me as very risky indeed - for your career that is. Among other things, the point of such systems is to audit who enters the areas, and you are circumventing it.

    Get them to fix the system so it lets you in - don't put yourself at risk by breaking the rules.

  5. Check your finger positioning by Baron_Yam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It appears the loops and whorls of my fingerprints are a little lower than average - so when I first tried to use a fingerprint reader I couldn't register with the system, nevermind authenticate with it later. Then, I finally loaded up an admin utility that showed the scanned image that the recognition engine was using - and I noticed the print didn't look complete.

    Solution: I put almost half of the required fingertip over the top of the imaging sensor, so the stupid little device gets the part of my print it really wants.

    Anyway, it might be worth a try to play around with finger positioning.

  6. finger on a string by nomax · · Score: 5, Funny

    Easy - get yourself to some local med school and barter for a finger from some leftover dissection class (there's gotta be tons of extra fingers right?). Make sure it has a nice print. Anyway, retrain your work security system on the new finger, and pop that baby around your neck on a string. If the system has one of those annoying "it has to be warm" features just stick it in your mouth for a minute before use.

  7. Employer's problem by alyosha1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Surely this is your employer's problem, not yours, given that they're the ones who've implemented a faulty security system? As it's impeding your ability to do your job, it's costing them money and so is in their best interests to fix.

  8. Safecrackers by rot26 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This isn't an instant solution but it will probably work in the near-term. Try sanding down the pads of your finger(s). The skin will grow back thicker, i.e. it will callous, and your prints will be more distinct. I play guitar and the pads of my left fingers are about 1/16" thick. Last time I was fingerprinted (for a concealed weapon permit, if you're curious) the cop who did it told me I had the best prints he had seen in a long time.

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  9. This is a problem. Here are some ideas. by swillden · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been doing biometrics related stuff for the last several years, and I can tell you that there are a *lot* of people who don't have easily-scannable fingerprints. Many people who do a lot of work with their hands basically keep their fingertips polished smooth. One colleague of mine has a grandmother who quilts a lot and the constant rubbing of fingertips against cloth erases her ridges. A national ID project in Nicaragua (IIRC) ran into lots of trouble because most of the women cook tortillas and frequently grab the hot tortillas with their fingers to flip and remove them, burning their fingerprints off in the process. People who do hard labor often have thick, cracking callouses which cause problems.

    It also appears to be a bigger problem for women than for men, women seem to have naturally fainter ridges than men, and asians seem to have fainter ridges that other races. I've met lots of asian women who have basically no ridges at all.

    Other people have a different problem. Most fingerprint recognition algorithms want to look at some nice whorl patterns, which is where the most identifiable splits and changes in the ridges are found, but this "central" portion is not very centered on some peoples' fingers. For some, it's closer to the fingertip or closer to the knuckle, and I even met one man who got the best readings by tilting his finger about 30 degrees to one side.

    Finally lots of people have problems using fingerprint scanners because they don't know how to use them. "What's to know?" you might think. Actually, you do have to learn how to position your finger on the sensor, and how much pressure to apply. Bad positioning, or too much or too little force, will give you poor scans.

    So, to find a solution (other than getting your employer to fix or get rid of the scanners), I suggest you firse see if you can figure out what the problem is. Some things to look at/try:

    1. Play with positioning. If there's a scanner somewhere that actually shows you the image it scanned, play with that. Look at your finger and figure out where the most "interesting" part is and try to get that centerd on the scanner. Figure out how much pressure to apply so that you get nice, clear ridges that are distinct and well-separated.
    2. Make sure the template is good. When you scan your fingerprint, the scan has to be compared against a template that is stored somewhere. Maybe you didn't get a very good scan when the template was created? Usually, enrollment systems scan your finger multiple times and either combine the results or take the one they estimate to be the "best", but it may be that you still didn't get a good template. Try re-enrolling after you've figured out the ideal way to position your finger.
    3. Think about what you do with your fingers. If your ridges are just very light, perhaps they're not naturally that way. Is there some activity you engage in that wears them off? If so, you might consider stopping that activity. On the other hand, if it's something you do so much that it polishes your fingertips, it's probably something you really like doing (or something you do obsessively...).
    4. Experiment with moisture. It sounds like you're already doing this, but try a few different things.
    5. Consider making a fake finger. If worse comes to worst, it's supposed to be pretty easy to make fake fingerprints, and there are recipes on the web. I've never done it but I've seen it done, and it looks easy. Making a fake will allow you to do whatever it takes to get one really good print from your finger, and then you can just use that. If you need to, maybe you can even use someone else's fingerprint ;-). The security folks may not like this approach, of course, but you can always try pointing out (after you've learned how to do it) that if it's so easy, then their security technology isn't much good anyway.
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  10. Re:DO NOT USE ALCOHOL UNTIL YOU ARE SURE by Wolfger · · Score: 4, Insightful
    many fingerprint scanners and touchscreens are actually damaged by alcohol, especially older ones. So unless you want to ruin it for everyone...
    Ruining it for everyone doesn't sound like a half-bad idea, actually. I mean, how much security can there be if people who can access these areas are letting you in because you can't? Maybe if the readers are an abysmal failure, they will be replaced with something more sensible.