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George Takei To Play Star Trek's Sulu Again
Tycoon Guy writes "TrekToday reports that George Takei has agreed to play Hikaru Sulu in an upcoming episode of the fan series Star Trek: New Voyages. He's the second actor from the original Star Trek series to come onboard; another episode will feature Walter Koenig as Pavel Chekov. And here's what really makes this news great: Takei's episode will be written by none other than David Gerrold, the SF writer who also brought us Star Trek's Tribbles."
He was AWESOME last week on Stern as the announcer - I wish him well. 68 years old, just came out of the closet and then goes on The Howard Stern Show after a decade of ribbing... George Takei is Okay. RIP Rein LaBlanche.
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im a fan of the series... but have you seen these things... acting worse than.... well, the original series.
;)). But as I like TOS (although I wouldn't be stupid enough to pay for it, and only know one person who is stupid enough), and for free entertainment, New Voyages isn't too bad for a lazy night. I could do worse watching Ballroom bloody Dancing.
Thanks for that commentary Mr. Shatner. But I have to disagree. I'd say the acting is about equal to the original series (which isn't saying much
A) It keeps the community alive and series continuity going
B) Its just a good feeling that the older actors are willing to go back after all this time. Its a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Star Trek didn't go anywhere, boldly or not, with this. Takei just came out in the last few months. Good for him, but it's not really shocking world news. When I heard this for the first time, I didn't freak out, I didn't applaud him. It was just another outing. It was at best some interesting tidbit.
Now, what have been really shocking or whatever it might have been, was if the creators of the original series knowingly and purposely hired Takei because he was gay and dedicated a episode to this aspect.
Star Trek shouldn't be applauded because they unknowingly had a gay helmsman, they should be remember for the other civil rights movement, such as having a character Uhura on board.
Now if he had come out during the first run of the series, it might have had an impact, in light of the show, in those years. Now, the original series is 30 years old.
Hire?
You seem to be under a misapprehension. Those shows aren't a commercial venture. They're community theater.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
What made TOS standout was its aspriations. It wasn't an apparatus designd to make money with minimal risk, it was a labor of love. As such things are it was more than occasionally a bit embarassing but there at least was no question that each and every episode had deep significance to someone at least.
When Roddenberry died, the franchise lost its soul, and became an imitation of itself. It went all calculatd and post-modern, constantly self-aware of itself as a medium. TOS on the other hand was authentic; it was sincere and earnest to the point of painfulness. Case in point: later series used sex appeal, dressing their anatomically improbable female stars in cat suits to appeal to a young male demographic. When Roddenberry dressed Yeoman Rand in a skirt that wouldn't have made a decent dinner napkin, he was making an true sincere and un-selfconsious statement. TOS didn't try to be sexy, it was sexy. It practically raised sexiness to the level of a personal philosophy.
TOS embodied an authentic personal vision of a future of complete liberation: political, economic, gender role and of sexual. Maybe it's naive; maybe it's unacheivable; but it's worse to have no vision.
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Takei coming out was one of those well, geeze of course kind of moments. The big question is why he wasn't a blip on anybody's gaydar screen before. I always thought he kind of stood out, but I couldn't quite put my finger on why.
That said, the actors and the characters are two different things. Having a gay actor (especially a closeted one) play a straight character doesn't count as tackling gay issues. Star Trek in its later editions flirted with lesbian allusions, but so does a lot of porn that is intended for consumption by straight males. It's the idea of masculinity that is the third rail of culture. Most people treat it as too dangerous to go near.
I don't think male homosexuality had a place in Roddenberry's fantasy life. Judging from what he wrote about some of the Kirk-Spock fan fic, I don't think he liked the idea, although I think he was polite and careful not to dismiss the idea of people having gay Star Trek fantasies. Just not with his characters.
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I like David Gerrold, and I've enjoyed some of his recent "lighter" SF books including his Dingilliad trilogy, but c'mon, the guy needs to get a move on and finish the next installment of his masterwork, A Method For Madness. I'm still trapped in the Amazon, wondering what happens next in the War Against The Chtorr.
Star Trek shouldn't be applauded because they unknowingly had a gay helmsman, they should be remember for the other civil rights movement, such as having a character Uhura on board.
What makes me sad is the fact the people have pointed this out... because I never gave it a second thought. I guess it's actually important... the simple fact that they bought all these people together in a situation where it simply was no big deal.
This is a tad off topic but I recently watched the Warner Brothers banned 11 cartoons. Some of these I actually saw as a kid living in the south... and at the time I would have seen them I had no idea they were attempting to poke fun at african americans... I just assumed there were cool cats and cool dogs in a city called Harlem who were big on skat and jazz. Watching them now makes me feel rather ill. I had to ask my self whether I wanted to archive them or not... but without things like this... big names in Warner Brother's animation... creating these strongly racist cartoons because it again was "no big deal"... without these things people like Martin Luther King, Jr. would have had nothing to complain about... and women like Whoopi Goldberg who grew up with Sherly Temple reruns wouldn't have been excited to see Star Trek and exclaim, "Momma, there's a black lady on tv... and she ain't no maid".
So yes... I feel ashamed when I have to think about the fact that "I love Lucy" of all things was groundbreaking... a mixed marriage between I presume an Irish Catholic and a Cuban-born musician. I feel even more ashamed when I have to think about the fact that Star Trek featured the first African American woman who wasn't a maid. But I can feel some pride in the fact that much was accomplished over a period of 40 years... though i'll be another 40 years before we as a people trully understand that we share a planet.
There is no sanctuary. There is no sanctuary. SHUT UP! There is no shut up. There is no shut up.
Okay.... Gotta get the first part off my chest.
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All you folks who think this fan series is unwatchable and horrible have been too spoiled by Hollywood's offerings and need way too much eye candy (IMO) to suspend your disbelief.
I'd hate to hear what you folks have to say about classic Dr. Who...
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That aside, I've been keeping up with New Voyages for the past year and I think they're heading into a critical point in their existance.
The first movie seemed warmly received and did look a bit amateurish. The second was a vast improvement along with some real characters who played minor roles in the Trek series.
The third, they're all slap happy patting themselves on the back for netting Walter Koenig and at least it's in post production.
They're talking episode 4 and 5 now plus George Takei and they've lost Jack Marshall who I got the impression was one of the key guys who helped launch it and see it through, making it a reality.
From what I've experienced with people who take on a venture with moderate success in the beginning, I'd say it would be possible and probable that they're riding the high of all the media attention garnered so far. They're likely so busy spinning new deals that attention to things such as pre and post production, volunteer/cast/crew relations and all those minor details like the proverbial sidewalk sweeping, bottle washing and etc are falling by the wayside. I'd suspect they're in danger of having the whole thing fall in on itself.
For the sake of this fan who actually enjoys New Voyages, I'm hoping Jack Marshall wasn't the only driving unifying force that kept everything together.
That sounds vaguely reminicent of all the complaints about Chinese actresses being cast in Memoirs of a Geisha. I've seen movies made from books, in which black actors played white characters -- well. So who cares if somebody Chinese plays a character who is incidentally Japanese? It's acting. The whole point is to behave like somebody you're not.
So if this really is about ethnicity, I sympathize with Mr. Lim. But if he's just playing that card because he's annoyed he didn't get the role, then he's playing the sorts of politics I can't stand.
Not being intimately familiar with what's going on, I don't really know enough to say which this is. So I'll just leave it at that and be on my way.
Wandering the galaxy bringing self-righteous Federation "enlightenment" to the universe with bombastic speeches isn't exploration--it's hubris and arrogance.
Trek writers needed to spend some time exploring the concept of "character development." They might have learned that real characters EVOLVE over time (and Rikers's expanading waistline doesn't count).
Not that chracter development matters much when all your characters are stock and one-dimensional to begin with. You'd think that, in all that technobabble, they would have picked up the term "multi-dimensional" at some point.
-Eric
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
I think Queer Eye for the Straight Guy should do a special with George Takei at a Star Trek Convention. Most of the guys I've talked to at Star Trek conventions seem like nice people, but some of them would definitely benefit from being shot with a phaser set on "fabulous."