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Court Action Does Not Reduce File-Sharing

gollum123 wrote to mention a BBC report that despite numerous court cases, litigation does not appear to be reducing the amount of file-sharing. From the article: "The level of file-sharing has remained the same for two years despite 20,000 legal cases in 17 countries. The International Federation of the Phonographic Industries (IFPI) said it was 'containing" the problem and more people were connecting to broadband."

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  1. Obviously by Rekolitus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more people that take court action, the more bitter people will be, and the less likely people will buy from them.

    1. Re:Obviously by AoT · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed.

      The tighter they clench their fist, the more files will slip from their grasp.

      But really, look at this logicaly. The record companies never thought they could stop this with law suits, they were forced to sue to keep the idea that downloading music is wrong in peoples heads. This is a rear-guard action while the big companies work on new business plan. Of course, whether those plans work or not is another story.

    2. Re:Obviously by mboverload · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > The more people that take court action, the more bitter people will be, and the less likely people will buy from them.

      Yep.

      Unlike some people, I have NO problem with the music they produce. I'm one of those losers that like Green Day. I like mainstream music like Dashboard Confessional, Fall Out Boy, or even Justin Timberlake. Big fucking deal. Sue me.

      However, I can't buy msuic from them on principal. Just like I wouldn't buy blankets from the online Al-qaeda shop, I can't buy music from them. Yes, an extreme example but it lays out my point in black and white:

      I don't buy things/support people/companies I think are "true evil".

      I don't buy from Walmart, I don't buy music from the RIAA, and I don't buy ten year old girls from the local human trafficker.

  2. Makes perfect sense to me... by balloot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The people who get nailed in court for file-sharing seem very remote. It just doesn't seem like a file-sharing conviction will ever affect "normal" people who just use Limewire every so often when they need something. These people make up 99% of the file-sharing population.

  3. You mean... by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. People don't think that it's a big risk if there's a 1 in 100,000 chance they'll be the next one sued (especially if they don't swap too much).

    2. Suing people tends to piss them off, making them less likely to buy from you.

  4. Sometimes "misunderstood" by mendaliv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find the last paragraph of the article mildly amusing:
    [Mr. Kennedy] said DRM was a "sometimes misunderstood element of the digital music business".

    I wonder if he knows who is misunderstanding it...

  5. Don't forget to crank up the phonograph by VampireByte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are called The International Federation of the Phonographic Industries? Wow, that explains the ancient mindset of the music industry. Imagine the automotive industry still refering to themselves as horseless carriage manufactures!

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  6. Just goes to show by ztwilight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can't outlaw something that people don't think is illegal. Just how outlawing liquor in the 30's made it more popular than ever.

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    1. Re:Just goes to show by Mr2001 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ITYM "something that people don't think is wrong", or perhaps "something that people don't think should be illegal". Basically everyone knows it's illegal to trade copyrighted material on P2P services without permission from the copyright holder, just like everyone knows it's illegal to drive 65 in a 60 zone or cross the street when the sign says DONT WALK, and everyone knew back in the days of Prohibition that alcohol was illegal. They just don't care, because (1) they know they aren't hurting anyone and (2) the chances of getting caught are slim to none.

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  7. Getting back to a normal relationship between by burni · · Score: 4, Insightful

    consumers and artists

    1.) artists need money to live and be productive
    2.) artists need consumers who appreciate their art work, and pay for them
    3.) consumers need artists too, because artists are the basic glue which upholds
    and inspires our culture, every decade is mostly described by their artists,
    and the artwork,

    what you think of when I say 80s, perhaps there is a famous tune floating
    through your ears, or you see a picture of the androgynous "Boy George",
    or see a black pontiac transam cruising, it´s part of our culture,
    or even parts of our identity.

    <b>artwork belongs to both society and creator </b>

    so as I wrote in the subject it&#180;s a two way relationship where no side
    can exist without the other, so from my point of view if you are an artist and create artwork, on the one hand you should have the right to sell your artwork,
    and you should have the right to prosecute those people who sell
    your creations, because this is a really damage in your oportunity to
    sell your artwork, but persecuting private fileshares, which could not
    pay for all artwork they have on their HDs aren&#180;t really a loss,

    because most of them still buy the artwork they appreciate most,
    they are consumers who are willing to pay for artwork.

    But accepting that you created artwork and release it to the public you also
    must accept that since release you don&#180;t own your creation entirely anymore,
    it becomes part of the cultural heritage of a group, a society or even the worlds cultural heritage.

    So concluding this, and citing what was said in a thread above, the more people you take to court the more bitter people there will be, the more consumers
    you will lose.

    <b>The copyright has gone mad since the "Mickey Mouse" - act induced by Bono.</b>

    In germany we call the copyright "Urheberrecht"

    Which means the right of the creator on his creation, but why should
    the copyright last longer than the creator lives, because he is dead,
    so he and his work were and are part of our culture, he participated
    on the wealth of the consumers of his artwork, so why after his death
    his artwork shouldn&#180;t be public domain ?

    Artwork isn&#180;t pure commercial, because it&#180;s part of our culture.

    a.) I&#180;m against commercial copyright violators

    b.) I provide an allowance of private and fair use,
    perhaps using a culture flat fee, where you pay non directional
    so creators of swapped artwork get a compensation

    c.) many artists owe their public success to the napsters and eDonkeys
    of the world, for example "Gorillaz"

    d.) music industry is stuck into a total commercial way of thinking,
    they forgot that those private file swappers they sue, are also mostly
    consumers, and that private fileswapping can boost record sales

    e.) we even have recuded file swapping rates, but the record sales
    are still decreasing.

    <b> Copy doesn&#180;t kill music,
    Copy is a sign of life,
    Hearing & Copying is a sign of appreciation,
    </b>
    and leads to prospering business.