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Google's Action Makes A Mockery Of Its Values
Jason Jardine linked us to a well written piece discussing how Google has thus far promised to Do No Evil, but their recent decisions regarding censorship in china
make a mockery of those values. We've been following this story all along, but I thought this article makes good food for thought.
Google and other US companies making human rights concessions with China is a horrible showing for the US.
Basically, it says we give up rights for money. That's BS. We give up rights to fight trrrsts!
Seriously, though.. we should be sticking it to China every chance we get.
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Maybe Google should stop working in US since US tortures detainees and invades other contries at its will. Do no evil, you know... Ultimate goal of all companies is to make money. Period. Take it or leave it. And please stop braggin' bout it.
How is obeying the laws of China when trying to do business in China "doing evil"?
Are you fucking shitting me?
Because those *laws* are evil. Because the entire system of government by which those laws are emplaced and enforced is evil!
But I'm also opposed to telling the Chinese government what to do, or advocating that Google break the country's laws just because the prevailing opinion in the US and most of the rest of the world is that the laws are wrong
What a gigantic fucking strawman. And aside from being a strawman, it's a thoroughly reprehensible standpoint to take.
First, nobody here is suggesting "telling the Chinese government what to do," or advocate that Google break Chinese law. What is being suggested is that engaging in censorship of this nature is evil, that Good should not engage in it, and that if Google has a choice between doing business with China and censoring, and *not* doing business with China and not censoring (and they do, in fact, have this choice), then Google should pick the latter option. That's why what you just said was a gigantic strawman.
Second of all, *what possible reason could exist* for you to be opposed to *telling* (not threatening, not extorting, but merely *telling*!) the Chinese government that they're a bunch of fascist thugs and that if they want to join the rest of the world in open trade they should do so on a basis of a human rights record that does not resemble that of the Spanish Inquisition. How in the *fucking world* could you have a problem with that? You actually have a problem with telling a bunch of fascists that they're a bunch of fascists, and that people deserve better than to be born into and then to live and die under an oppressive government that at every turn denies them open access to information and the most fundamental of human rights? My God!
How would you feel if a company came to do business in your country without following the rules?
If "the rules" included my getting hauled off to jail for researching the political concept of "democracy," I'd probably be pretty okay with it.
Hey, how would *you* feel if your government wanted to round you up into death camps? How would *you* feel about the foreign company your government contracted into helping it?
I don't think many people realise how much trust and faith we put into our regular, favourite search engine. To give us unbiased, uncensored and trustworthy results to our queries.
The Chinese don't want their leaders; they just have no choice right now. The previous freedom campaigners were killed by tanks, remember? Google has badly let them down.
I won't be using google anymore. This was a bad, stupid decision. Shame on you, Google.
Your current business attire in no way shape or form means that you never once participated in the free love drug using culture of the 1960s-1970s. A hippie is a hippie until death.
To clarify, I called you a hippie because it is usually the hippie set that gets in the way of commerce....well for any reason. The free market will eventually bring the tyrants in China down. Just trust in globalization and be patient.
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