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Remains of First African Slaves Found

An anonymous reader writes to tell us LiveScience is reporting that Archaeologists may have found the oldest remains of slaves brought from Africa to the New World. From the article: "The African origin of the slaves was determined by studying a chemical in their tooth enamel that reveals plant and rock types of their native land. The chemical enters the body through the food chain as nutrients pass from bedrock through soil and water to plants and animals. It is an indelible signature of birthplace, the researchers said, because it can be directly linked to the bedrock of specific locales."

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  1. Oldest by imoou · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But possibly not the first.

  2. So they know they were African... by Max+Threshold · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How do they know they were slaves?

    1. Re:So they know they were African... by Grab · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's pretty scientific, yes. Think of sailing technology at the time. Columbus and his pals just about had the technology needed to get directly from Africa to America. No West African nation had the same technology. Most coastal areas had sailors (the Meditterranean had some particularly good ones), but they didn't have ocean-going ability. Even the Vikings couldn't do that - the most they managed was island-hopping. And to get from Africa to Central America in any realistic time requires the direct route, otherwise we have to postulate an African expedition (in open boats) that went from Africa to Mexico via Spain/Portugal, France, Britain/Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, Canada and the entire eastern US seaboard. It's not unreasonable to assume that an expedition like that would have been noticed by someone in Europe who would have written it down.

      Anyway, we're talking an African found in a graveyard in an area known to have been a centre of slaving, at a time when slaving was at a peak. He might not have been a slave, in the same way as the guy you find sat in your car fiddling with the ignition might be the superhero Captain Car-Rescue instead of a car thief. But don't bet on it... ;-)

      Grab.

    2. Re:So they know they were African... by cortana · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In other news, Nazi scientists report discovering artifacts and human remains indicating that the human race did not originate in Africa, as previously believed, but in Germany instead. :)origin of the human race was not Africa,

  3. Re:interesting fact by nomadic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The slave trade has always been blamed on Europeans and African slavetraders as well. One of the reasons America gets the lion's share of the blame is because we took so long to actually abolish it.

  4. in America? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's odd.

    I always assumed the first African Slaves were in Africa.

    But, maybe that's because they were.

  5. Maafa - The American Holocaust by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It took the "middle passage" and other horrors to really turn large-scale African slavery into the worst atrocity of the past two-thousand years.

    Stalin? The Nazis and Khmer Rouge? Small potatoes to these horrors, which continued for almost two-hundred years. The Arab and interneccine slavery of Africans was unjust - but seldom so relentlessly brutal, with human beings reduced to a level of treatment beneath that of animals.

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  6. Re:*cough* by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are many kinds of nerds ok? This is interesting to our anthropological nerd brethren. Nerds need to learn to respect each other.

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  7. Re:I don't think so. by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, slavery went on for thousands of years. It predated written history, and continued until western civilization decided that slavery was repugnant and stamped it out, over the objections of nearly every other society. Driving slavery almost out of existence was probably the greatest achievement of the British empire.

    -jcr

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  8. Re:Or about 50 years after the Spanish started com by glwtta · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Did they? My understanding was that Hernán Cortés had the ruling family and other people with power tortured and/or killed. Of the general population, those who didn't die in the violence of the Spanish invasion were forced to flee and probably ended up mixing with other tribes.

    All true, but the fact remains that the indigenous American civilizations went into a sharp (relatively speaking) decline 100-200 years before the Spanish got there. The area was significantly depopulated by Cortes' time; I believe there are several examples of cities whose population size wouldn't be matched again until early 19th century, being virtually deserted, long before any invaders looking for a "New World".

    As far as I know, the reasons for this are still unknown - doesn't necessarily make it "mysterious", we just don't have the info.

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  9. The problem with the third world generally by Flying+pig · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This post is more than interesting, it is insightful. Why is Africa such a mess? Because, basically, it has few middle class educated people. Why is India progressing so rapidly? Because it has a large and growing middle class fueled by the high status of education. Why does China want Taiwan so badly? Because China is (relatively speaking) a backward oligarchy and it would benefit from quickly acquiring a large educated middle class and its vast intellectual productive resources.

    So why is the American (and British) system currently so geared to benefiting oligarchs and making things using cheap labor? Why are our education systems increasingly failing? Is it because our leaders are becoming like the backwards oligarchs of the South, interested solely in lining their own pockets to the detriment of our long term prospects?

    What makes this especially interesting is the rise in prominence of people like McKain in the US and now Cameron in the UK, who are emphasising traditional middle class values against the corporatism of the respective governments. Time for an educated middle class backlash, perhaps.

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  10. First in the New World, that is by Frodo420024 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sometimes it looks as if the colonist of the New World invented the slave trade. That was not at all the case. It had been running for centuries on the coasts of Africa, with Arab traders dealing with the local rulers, buying prisoners of war and other potential slaves.

    But they sure did get a boost in business when Europeans joined the trade!

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  11. My, but you're disingenuous. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most mature cultures go back thousands of years.

    In intelligible form? Sorry, but no European culture goes back "thousands of years". If you go back two thousand, you're at the dawn of Christianity, which bore only a passing resemblance to today's versions. The Romans had switched over to imperial rule. While I can understand how Western culture takes a lot from Romans and Greeks, to imply that we're all part of the same culture is plainly bullshit--we don't do human sacrifice, giant statues of our gods in the town square, gladiator fights, Legions forbidden from coming home, or the divine right of kings. Or humping little boys.

    You'd have as much luck fitting into Roman society as you would into a Bantu empire of the same period. Living in Europe may mean you live near some old buildings, but it doesn't mean you live in the same culture that built them.

    If you are considering when slavery ceased to be an accepted part of life in the countries which later became the UK, this would have been in the early Middle Ages, around 1100 (not long after the Romans left and the Danes settled, around 800. The Vikings would have been the last group living in England who accepted slavery as a normal condition.

    No, those are the dates when enslaving white people became unacceptable. The British were quite involved with African slavery from 1562 until 1803, when they started discouraging it, and 1833, when it was actually abolished by the Brits.

    Habeas Corpus, though codified in the Magna Carta (1215), was part of the common law well before this date, and indicates that freedom is the presumed state for any individual who has not been found guilty of a crime. While slavery was formally abolished in the US around 1865, the acceptance of slavery seems to have persisted in the southern states until around 1960.

    It's disingenuous for you to compare the time when Brits stopped enslaving fellow whites to the time when Americans ended legal discrimination against blacks.

    And also, what persisted in the South until the Civil Rights era wasn't slavery so much as it was Jim Crow--segregation, much like the Apartheid that South Africa had until relatively recently. Racist, certainly--but comparing it to the end of whites-as-slaves in Viking culture? Give me a break.

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  12. Sympathy for the white devil by Loquax · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Hold on a second there. I in no way want to defend slavery or genocide, but Columbus was a man acting in his time with his time's morality and ethics. First, the "genocide" that you refer to happend as a result primarily of diseases and their effects that Columbus could not have been aware of. Second, at that time in the world, all of the world, slavery was the norm not the exception. Owning a slave and using his or her body for labor however you wished was no more "immoral" than you or I owning a car or eating meat. Would you want someone 100+ years from now who lives in a society of pedestrian vegitarians judging you on the basis of your driving a car or eating meat. I wouldn't. What happend to the slaves and the American Indians was a tragedy in hind sight. But don't kid yourself. If the poor African slave had guns and the upperhand, they would have (and in many cases did) enslaved other peoples. If the Indians had developed technology permitting them to take over Europe and had the need to go on conquest, they would have done so as well. The history of the Native Americans is littered with bloody battles between the various tribes.

    My point is that "man is a bad animal" wherever and whenever he is. We'll kill our own kind, crap where we eat, and take more than we need and then use our wonderful rational mind to justify it all.

  13. Re:not so, my friend, not so... by radtea · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First of all, one must understand that slaves are capital, not labour.

    The difficulty with this assertion is that human beings cannot be owned, and therefore cannot be property and therefore cannot be capital. This is true regardless of what the law says. The law can say pi is equal to three. But that does not make it so.

    I will grant you that slaves can serve in the economic role of capital, just as 3 can serve in the mathematical role of pi. But economies (and circles) built on the basis of such falsehoods will be grossly distorted, and for much the same reaasons.

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