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Comparison of Pandora and Last.fm

An anonymous reader writes "Blogger Steve Krause takes an interesting look at how music recommenders Pandora and Last.fm work, including some algorithmic strengths and weaknesses. Although he seems to think Last.fm is better now, his punchline is that a combination of their approaches will eventually be the real winner and for that, Pandora can more easily become like Last.fm than the other way around."

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  1. Lastfm by danboarder · · Score: 5, Informative

    Both are great, but LastFM plays in Winamp and other players, while Pandora requires Flash in a webpage... so I prefer Lastfm. Related: www.TubesMusic.com will soon let users do either one when it's available, so I've heard.

    1. Re:Lastfm by Frnknstn · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are missing LastFMProxy:

      http://vidar.gimp.org/lastfmproxy/

      It's a python script that redirects the stream into a player of your choice.

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  2. The Cathedral and the Bazaar by Renegade+Lisp · · Score: 4, Informative
    This review is one of the best technical articles I have read in a while. Kudos to the author!

    I've played with both services as well, and I have now been a happy (and paying) last.fm user for several months. I don't quite share the author's enthusiasm about Pandora; in my case (and for some of the friends I tried it for), its recommendations were not quite that good.

    The centralized music genome inventory that Pandora relies on reminds me of a Cathedral, while Last.fm is more like a Bazaar of babbling voices -- now I wonder where that metaphor comes from!

    I think Last.fm has more potential because it is fundamentally a social service -- it feels a lot more like other open online communities I have come to know and love, whereas Pandora seems more like a black-box to me (something the review author also mentioned).

  3. Re:Pandora and DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Last.FM is similiarly trivial to rip.

    Each track is seperated by a string, "SYNC" which the player detects. It's pretty easy to copy the stream, split it into multiple files and automaticaly tag and name them correctly actually. It took me about 20 minutes to hack some Python together to do it.

  4. Re:Perfect timing by flaneur · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sigh, indeed...we've been planning this downtime (which involves a major upgrade to our streaming capabilities) for weeks now, so it would figure that we would get Slashdotted at precisely this moment!

    We're also busy readying some cool new features to be released by the end of the week...subscribers will also have access to a beta site (beta.last.fm) later today to try out some of these new goodies.

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  5. Last.fm worked out the kinks by TheMotedOne · · Score: 4, Informative

    Back in the days of audioscrobbler there were frequent days and even weeks when the servers would be slow and sometimes even not record data sent, but since the swap of domain and name to last.fm it seems that they have worked out all the kinks. foobar2000 and last.fm work splendid on my windows box. I just wish there was some way to have two different plugins report to the same account. (Even if that led to abusing tags.)

  6. Similar but different... by Eythian · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...to each of these, is iRATE radio which uses collaberative filtering and user ranking of tracks to give you freely available music that you (hopefully) like.

  7. Re:Perfect timing by cyberdemo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Go to "Download" and select "I'm using an exotic platform" on the dropdown menu and it will give you the option to download the source code. It's not the most intuitive thing in the world, but it's there.

    Direct link: svn://svn.audioscrobbler.net/player/trunk

    You'll have to use subversion to download it.

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