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Linux Powers Military UGV

An anonymous reader writes "Linux powers a new autonomous unmanned ground vehicle (UGV) that learns routes by following along behind foot-soldiers, after which it can retrace the route solo, avoiding obstacles. iRobot's "R-Gator" UGV is based on John Deere's 658cc, diesel-powered M-Gator military utility vehicle platform, with control, navigation, and object-avoidance systems based on BlueCat Linux from LynuxWorks. I wonder how Linux idealists feel about their cute little OS being deployed in machinery of war?"

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  1. Sweet! by SaDan · · Score: 5, Funny

    If Linux can go to war, it's almost ready for the corporate desktop!

    1. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The prototype ran on Windows, but the robot arm had a tendency to keep throwing chairs at the enemy...

    2. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They tried running it on Windows, but the BSOD had unexpected consequences. And for some reason occasionally caused the violent ejection of chairs from the vehicle.

      The military was also concerned about missing their automatic updates and new virus definitions, making their military equipment vulnerable to 'bunker' overflow exploits which could result in unauthorized user access.

      Of course, by using linux the military was also concerned about its rumoured ties to communism, however at present this has been unsubstantiated and may simply be the work of infiltrators within the government department.

      On the streets, Linux advocates around the world count it as a great leap in the war against poor programs. And eagerly await its deployment in the field ... whenever that might actually happen :P

      (Guer)

    3. Re:Sweet! by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 4, Funny

      We're getting real close to the first 'killer app' for Linux.

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    4. Re:Sweet! by afaik_ianal · · Score: 2, Funny

      But does it run... oh, never mind.

    5. Re:Sweet! by cgenman · · Score: 3, Funny

      And we'll finally get to see Konqueror in action.

      Too bad about Gimp, though.

  2. Linux Kicks Ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Linux kicks ass, so souldn't it kick others asses as well.

  3. Slogan... by Jsutton1027w · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Nothin' runs like a Penguin"

  4. A military usage of our technology? Oh no! by halivar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder how Linux idealists feel about their cute little OS being deployed in machinery of war?

    Oh, that's nothing. They'll totally blow a gasket when they find out what the "D" in DARPA stood for. Perhaps a mass boycott of the internet will result.

  5. cool!! by revery · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, the fighting in Iran stopped for several hours yesterday when American college students hacked into a group of the Army's UGVs and used them to simulate games of Nintendo's RC Pro-Am and Mario Cart. Fortunately, control was restored later in the day, but not before the battlefield had been strewn with bananas, ricocheting tortoise shells and decoy power-ups.

  6. Re:my guess would be .... by the_other_one · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually I meant binaries not code.

    Now here's a question:
        If the military distributed their binaries as part of the software controlling a missile. Would they have to include source code in the warhead?

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  7. HAHAHA! by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder how Linux idealists feel about their cute little OS being deployed in machinery of war?

    Excuse my French, but SUPER-FUCKING-COOL.

    I eagerly await our new, Linux based Robotic F/OSS Overlords!

    HAHAHAHAHA

    For some reason, this joke feels funnier this time.

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  8. Re:GPL? by toddbu · · Score: 4, Funny
    Only people using the vehicles need to have access to the source code.

    sed 's/Iraq/Iran/g' *.c
    make install
    /etc/init.d/ugv reload

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  9. Re:First Weapons ports by Sinistrad_D · · Score: 5, Funny

    All of which will have to be put down in order to turn on the vehicles lights!

  10. Re:my guess would be .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Hey Larry, those dirty Linux hippies are claiming that use of GPL'd code in a missle warhead counts as 'distribution' under the GPL and are demanding source code. What should I do?"

    "Well Jerry we've gotta comply with the GPL so by all means burn the source to a CD-R, slip it into a warhead, and deliver it to them."

  11. Re:First Weapons ports by ArsonSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

    An earlier model. Soldiers didn't care much for it as it was bulkier and didn't have the distructive power. The BFG2000a was a slight improvement but didn't help that much. Now the BFG4150 was an awesome weapon. Might not have had the raw destructive power of the BFG9000 but it was light, comfortable and durable has all hell.

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  12. Re:my guess would be .... by SnowZero · · Score: 4, Funny

    Would they have to include source code in the warhead?

    No, it would suffice to include with the warhead a written offer, good for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than the cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code.

    (see the GPL, section 3b)

  13. As a former soldier... by superdan2k · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...the last thing I need is fucking Clippy popping up in my rifle sights.

    "It looks like you are attempting a center-of-mass shot at 250 meters. Would you like help?

    O Get help taking the shot.
    O Just take the shot without help.
    O Get help relocating your target, who is long-gone by the time you've finished mousing around this lame-assed help interface."

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  14. Linux vs. Anything Else by CupBeEmpty · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am pretty sure that Linux is really the only option for something like this for several reasons:
    -OS X would simply look too damn sleek and sexy for military use
    -Windows
              *Blue Screen of Death (not helpful in tactical situations)
              *As mentioned before, Clippy would probably be a liability in the field
              *Do you really want something like Sasser to cripple the military?
              *In a battlefield situation is one Tuesday a month enough?
    -The proprietary Diebold voting machine system
              *hahahahhahahahahaha
    -Arm this thing with some serious firepower and "rm -rf" means something
    -Arm this thing and alias pWn="sudo rm -rf /var/enemy/combatants/"
    -BeOS just flashes the things headlights

  15. Re:GPL? by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 4, Funny
    Don't worry, the gov't will be fair and release the source for it guys!

    You only have to release the source code to people you distribute the hardware to. (If you always distribute the source code with any purchase, there's no need for a 'public release').

    This does, however, raise an interesting question: Does physical capture of a UGV classify as 'distribution' requiring a source-code disclosure?
    More importantly, would enemy lawyers applying for a source-code release order be declared 'unlawful combatants' and shipped off to Guantanimo for 5 years of cross examination?

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  16. Guns don't kill people.... by Schrambo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Penguins do.

  17. This sounds great, but... by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 2, Funny
    ... now might be a good time to remind them:
    This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details.
  18. Re:my guess would be .... by njchick · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... if a missile with GPLed binaries destroys your house, you can demand another one, with the sources.

  19. Killer penguins by Abolo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Be afraid, there is a killer penguin looking for you. Be very afraid.

  20. Oops by this+great+guy · · Score: 2, Funny

    $ sed 's/Iraq/Iran/g' *.c
    $ make install
    war.c: In function `analyze_country':
    war.c:42: warning: variable `Iran' might possess nuclear weapons

  21. DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Developers developers developers. Whooo! Whoooooohoo! - EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! YOU WILL BE EXTERRRRRRRMENATED!

    Oh God NO! What have we DONE?!

    If it weren't for Balmer then Microsoft would be no fun at all.

  22. Something good might come of this. by Abolo · · Score: 2, Funny

    The day may come where you sit down of a Satuday afternoon, turn on the television only to see in bold writing: ROBOT WARS: The Linux based killing machine "Torvaldarus" vs the unpredictable Windows based "Gatesarus", to the death.